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The successor to the Epson P-4000 (which I haven't yet seen)

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:35 pm
by leek

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:36 pm
by birddog114
Another 12 months then it'll be available in Australian's market.
play with the P2000 and be happy.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:40 pm
by stubbsy
I agree Birdy, but the good news is it will support raw formats from many makers including Nikon & Canon. That's a big plus.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:43 pm
by birddog114
stubbsy wrote:I agree Birdy, but the good news is it will support raw formats from many makers including Nikon & Canon. That's a big plus.


P2000 supports RAW also.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:45 pm
by birddog114
I have the P2000 and use it with my D2x NEF.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:50 pm
by stubbsy
Birddog114 wrote:
stubbsy wrote:I agree Birdy, but the good news is it will support raw formats from many makers including Nikon & Canon. That's a big plus.


P2000 supports RAW also.

I thought you had to shoot RAW + JPEG and the preview and zoom etc was from the JPEG

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:56 pm
by birddog114
stubbsy wrote:
Birddog114 wrote:
stubbsy wrote:I agree Birdy, but the good news is it will support raw formats from many makers including Nikon & Canon. That's a big plus.


P2000 supports RAW also.

I thought you had to shoot RAW + JPEG and the preview and zoom etc was from the JPEG


No, it's better than your iMate :lol: it takes RAW directly and you knew me, I never shoot JPEG

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:32 pm
by dooda
I wonder if there's some idiot out there that wants to upgrade, and get rid of his 2000. I'd take it in a heartbeat if it was reasonable...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:34 pm
by birddog114
dooda wrote:I wonder if there's some idiot out there that wants to upgrade, and get rid of his 2000. I'd take it in a heartbeat if it was reasonable...


Dave,
Not surprised me at all! there will be some........ :wink:

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:30 pm
by DaveB
The interesting question will be how long it takes to download a full 2 or 4GB card: the P-2000 and P-4000 aren't speed demons by any stretch of the imagination (although if you upgrade the hard drive with a 7200rpm version they're apparently faster, I'm not sure yet by how much).

Wanting a fast downloader isn't just so you've got the biggest/fastest/meanest device around: having a stock P-2000 take 30 or even 15 minutes to download a CF card is stretching the limits of practicality in the field, especially when the battery level starts to drop.

Combining the UI of the P-2000/4000 with increased speed could be a winning combination.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:36 am
by birddog114
DaveB wrote:The interesting question will be how long it takes to download a full 2 or 4GB card: the P-2000 and P-4000 aren't speed demons by any stretch of the imagination (although if you upgrade the hard drive with a 7200rpm version they're apparently faster, I'm not sure yet by how much).

Wanting a fast downloader isn't just so you've got the biggest/fastest/meanest device around: having a stock P-2000 take 30 or even 15 minutes to download a CF card is stretching the limits of practicality in the field, especially when the battery level starts to drop.

Combining the UI of the P-2000/4000 with increased speed could be a winning combination.


I don't think other brand performs better with 4Gb or 8Gb card.
I've tried all and happy with the P2000 atm.

Will the P4000 or P4500 better than the P2000? look at its specs, I don't see anywhere can tell.

When you shoot with D70 or Canon 300/350 and with 512/1Gb/2Gb card, Any brand can do the jobs well. But a big difference with 4/8Gb card and 12MP/16MP or the future of 30MP.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 2:14 pm
by DaveB
Birddog114 wrote:Will the P4000 or P4500 better than the P2000? look at its specs, I don't see anywhere can tell.

The P-4000 is basically a P-2000 with a bigger hard drive (and a different battery). You can effectively get the same thing with a P-2000 and upgrade the drive (you need to do fancy Partition Magic things with both drives connected to a computer to get the format right though).

The P-4500 press release does mention that it's faster. It remains to be seen how much faster.

Meanwhile, while a stock P-2000 takes ~30 minutes to download a 2GB card, but a NextoCF does the same job in under 3 minutes (this morning I tested one with a 2GB Xtreme III card and timed it at 2m44s!). The P-2000 has the advantage of a colour screen and fancy review functionality, but everything's a tradeoff...
The PD70X is nice and fast also (not quite as fast as the Nexto) and can use your flash batteries. Apparently the PD80X due later this year will have Firewire as well as USB: no word yet on the speed.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:26 pm
by birddog114
DaveB wrote:
Birddog114 wrote:Will the P4000 or P4500 better than the P2000? look at its specs, I don't see anywhere can tell.

The P-4000 is basically a P-2000 with a bigger hard drive (and a different battery). You can effectively get the same thing with a P-2000 and upgrade the drive (you need to do fancy Partition Magic things with both drives connected to a computer to get the format right though).


Ghost or Image the original drive,

The P-4500 press release does mention that it's faster. It remains to be seen how much faster.


Haven't got a clue, but Australian won't see them till early 2007 :twisted:

Then the new P5000 is going to be announced. :lol: