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by stubbsy on Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:21 am
Well I've thought long and hard about this. An oportunity presented itself that meant I had to reevaluate whether my next camera would be a Nikon D200 or a Canon 5D (yes I know they have very different price points). Generally we buy into a lens mount system (Nikon, Canon etc) and having invested in the lenses stick to a brand. The offer before me though allowed me to switch lenses as well as bodies at a VERY attractive price. Additionally, thanks to Leigh, I'd played with the 1DS Mk II and discovered Canon's were pretty nice cameras too (although I must say their menu system isn't as intuitive)
After much soul searching over the last week or so and heaps of research I've decide to go with my special deal and my new toy has just arrived. A brand spanking new Canon 5D. Full frame and, according to my research (I'm at work and no time to have a play yet) I'm going to get bigger pics, but much better image quality. Along with this I have a EF 15 f/2.8 fisheye (couldn't NOT have one of those), EF 28-135 f/3.5 IS USM (my walkaround lens) and, drum roll, a EF 70-200 IS USM. This latter lens will be an interesting comparison to the Nikon beast. I have a few more lenses on the way (EF 20-35 f/3.5 USM, EF 50/1.4 USM) and a speedlite 580EX. BTW This terminology is all new too (IS=VR and USM=SWM) and takes a bit of getting used to.
Why the switch?
- Well the deal was brilliant (unfortunately I can't say how brilliant since that was part of the deal - suffice it to say I felt like I was stealing )
- The 5D is a full frame camera and after I'd done my homework both here and elsewhere I realised a FF camera offered me more than a DX body. SInce Nikon (or more likely their sensor suppliers) appear to lack the expertise to get a FF body to market in the near future I had no options in the Nikon segment.
- Canon also seem to have less quality control problems than Nikon too. The D200 banding issue and Nikon's slow response to it was in stark contrast to Canon who manage to get their products to market without major issues
Once I have had more of a play I'll give you some more feedback on my first impressions. PS It feels like Christmas - it sure is going to be hard to concentrate on work today.
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by NikonUser on Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:31 am
Congratulations on your new purchase(s!!)
Look forward to hearing from you on how you find the switch.
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by Oneputt on Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:34 am
Stubbsy - did you sell all of your Nikon lenses?
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by kipper on Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:34 am
Very interesting Stubbsy
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by gstark on Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:34 am
Peter,
That explains a few of the questions you've been asking recently.
Enjoy the new toy - I'm sure you shall - and I'm equally sure that you'll soon understand that the differences between DX and FF are more than merely technical, which is why I too would like a FF digicam.
And after you've had a good play, please let us know how you feel about the ergonomics. To me, the Canon is somewhat inferior to Nikon in that area, and I believe that it goes beyond just a "you'll get used to it" sort of thing.
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by kipper on Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:35 am
Gary, the discussion of switching has been made a few times on NSN and a few of the Nikon convertors said that it actually is very natural (ergonomics wise) and intuitive (buttons/menus/wheels) after you've lived with it for a few years.
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by Alpha_7 on Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:37 am
Congrats on the new super toy! Can't wait to see the results of your first couple of outings with your new kit. Are any of your new lenses, the much talked about L-series ? It didnt' seem to be, but I no zilch on the canon front.
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by birddog114 on Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:38 am
Peter,
Good luck and enjoying with all your new toys! it's a big move from you since you emerged into this forum.
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by the foto fanatic on Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:39 am
Wow! Congratulations on all the new toys - those you have & those you are about to have.
I'm looking forward to seeing what you can do with the new gear, Peter. I'm tipping that we'll see some great pix from you.
All of this good news should help the health improvement.
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by gstark on Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:39 am
kipper wrote:after you've lived with it for a few years.
ROTFLMAO
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by radar on Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:42 am
Peter,
Christmas is pretty early for you this year, or is it late
I'm sure that 5D will do pretty well in your capable hands. It must have been a pretty good price, quite a new selection of lenses.
Have fun and when you get a chance, let us know the results of your research that did make you switch to Canon, other then price. Mostly why you felt FF was the go for your photography.
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by jdear on Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:43 am
another one moves over to the light...
love to hear how the transition goes and how you find it over a long-term usage! Enjoy yourself thoroughly!
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by the foto fanatic on Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:43 am
After I posted earlier, I thought that I might check my local camera stores too...
Some of the Canon work here is superb.
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by gstark on Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:48 am
cricketfan wrote:After I posted earlier, I thought that I might check my local camera stores too... Some of the Canon work here is superb.
I must be paying the mods way too much!
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by PiroStitch on Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:49 am
Congrats on the switch Stubbsy and enjoy the new toys
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by jerrysk8 on Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:50 am
great move. i too switched to canon a while ago and never regretted it.
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by wendellt on Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:55 am
that's a significant investment peter i can't believfe you managed to buy not only a 5D but a 70-200 IS a great lens
plus al lthe other stuff
you must of got quite a deal
anyway i am on hte way to canon too, the photoagency i work with has a range of canon lenses they lend out to their crew, i just need to buy a body and i can use these lenses without having to invest too much money in switching over
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by birddog114 on Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:58 am
wendellt wrote:that's a significant investment peter i can't believfe you managed to buy not only a 5D but a 70-200 IS a great lens plus al lthe other stuff you must of got quite a deal
anyway i am on hte way to canon too, the photoagency i work with has a range of canon lenses they lend out to their crew, i just need to buy a body and i can use these lenses without having to invest too much money in switching over
Peter,
You have one of your best mates (in photography) heading to your way, pls. look after him with all your new investments.
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by radar on Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:03 am
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by gstark on Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:07 am
André
radar wrote:Gary, when can I get a job as an admin on these forums?? I need a few lenses and the money would be nice
Just as soon as you pay each of the mods the appropriate establishment fee.
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by moggy on Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:07 am
gstark wrote: I must be paying the mods way too much! ROFLMAO!
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by ozczecho on Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:08 am
Wow, I also had to check the date when reading your post peter
Enjoy your new tools and I cant wait to hear about and see your experiences....
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by daniel_r on Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:29 am
Congrats on your new purchase
I can understand you FF choice, will probably benefit your style of photography.
... looks like I'm going to have to buy my own 10.8 FE now
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by huynhie on Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:45 am
Enjoy Peter
I can't wait to have a look next time I see you
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by Sheila Smart on Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:49 am
Welcome to the 5D Club, Peter. I hope you will be in awe of your new camera as I am. Good choice with the 70-200 f/2.8 L IS. I am a tad concerned about your choice of the other two zooms though. 5Ds are renowned for their ability to show up inadequacies in lenses, especially non-L lenses. I had the 20-35 when I first had my D60 and it was a good wide angle on the D60 but I am unsure if you will be happy with it on the 5D. The 28-135 has had mixed reviews in the past. Its possibly too late, but why not go for the 24-105 rather than the two wide zooms.
I assume that you have seen the cashback offer from Canon
http://www.canon.com.au/visual/default.aspx
Cheers
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by Wocka on Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:53 am
Congrats on the move.
I would love to hear your comments on the 28-135, as I'm too looking at a lens of this size. I have found lately the kit lens is too short and my zoom starts too long for some situations, eg weddings.
Although reading what Sheila has said I'm also wondering if this next lens should be an L and the 24-105 is the go. But it always comes down to $$$.
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by Glen on Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:24 am
Congrats on your arrival, Peter. Mine doesn't arrive till Friday and I can't wait. I am extremely envious of your early arrival.
How are you finding making head nor tail of the lens catalogue? Have you found anything yet like Bjorn Rorslett's reviews? Or does anyone lese know somewhere similar?
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by radar on Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:31 am
Another one!!!
Is there something you guys know that we don't? Are Nikon bodys going to get infected by a virus or something??
Have fun Glen,
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by Alpha_7 on Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:35 am
Another one!!!
Is there something you guys know that we don't? Are Nikon bodys going to get infected by a virus or something??
Maybe there was a group discount arranged by canon for all forum mods ??
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by ozczecho on Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:41 am
Alpha_7 wrote:Another one!!!
Is there something you guys know that we don't? Are Nikon bodys going to get infected by a virus or something??
Maybe there was a group discount arranged by canon for all forum mods ??
Next is Birdy selling Canon gear
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by birddog114 on Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:42 am
I'm selling Canon gears for ages now.
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by Wocka on Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:43 am
Geeze I hope so.
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by phillipb on Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:46 am
First we had D70users, then we had DSLRusers, do I see a new name coming up?
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by Glen on Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:46 am
Andre, both are great tools, either are good at certain things. I have been working like a dog recently and thought a new toy may spark the creative juices. I could see room for both systems in my bag A D2X and a 5D would be the perfect combo (I haven't been working that hard unfortunately:cry: )
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by blacknstormy on Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:47 am
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by birddog114 on Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:47 am
Wocka wrote:Geeze I hope so.
Also got our accreditation with Canon Australia recently, but only applied to Coporate and Govt. sectors.
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by radar on Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:56 am
Glen wrote:Andre, both are great tools, either are good at certain things. I have been working like a dog recently and thought a new toy may spark the creative juices. I could see room for both systems in my bag A D2X and a 5D would be the perfect combo (I haven't been working that hard unfortunately:cry: )
I agree Glen, both would be veeerrrrrrryyyy nice.
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by wendellt on Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:58 am
Peter what kind of deal did you get second hand new?
Just wondering
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by birddog114 on Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:15 pm
wendellt wrote:Peter what kind of deal did you get second hand new? Just wondering
That's the brand new stock of 5D. Not used stock.
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by Raskill on Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:16 pm
Canon huh? Does that mean you'd be selling your old no longer loved surpassed and dejected D70 body?
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by LOZ on Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:17 pm
Peter what a drastic move you have made to be able to take sharp pictures .Wouldn't it have been cheaper to just get rid of a unnamed lens that we both have Big move and I would say more to come .
I'm happy with my d70 at present !!!!! and I know that you would have done a hell of a lot of research before your decision so could you share it with us .Looking forward to some sharp pix LOZ
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by losfp on Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:18 pm
Congrats on the new toys Peter! May they bring you lots of joy...
I myself, I simply can't justify that sort of jump in price, even with all the theoretical benefits of full-frame. The D70s will serve me well for a long time yet, and I have many other expensive hobbies... Home theatre, music, computers....
But this time next year.. who knows.
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by wendellt on Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:18 pm
Birddog114 wrote:wendellt wrote:Peter what kind of deal did you get second hand new? Just wondering
That's the brand new stock of 5D. Not used stock.
I meant the set of lenses
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by birddog114 on Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:21 pm
wendellt wrote:Birddog114 wrote:wendellt wrote:Peter what kind of deal did you get second hand new? Just wondering
That's the brand new stock of 5D. Not used stock.
I meant the set of lenses
Brand new stocks, they're!
Want a deal? have cash ready?
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by wendellt on Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:28 pm
nearly 5d better deal than d200
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by Alpha_7 on Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:29 pm
wendellt wrote:nearly 5d better deal than d200
huh ? come again ?
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by Greg B on Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:39 pm
So are you guys going to tell us anything about the price and any associated issues?
Glen, are you going to get the Nikon tattoo removed?
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by birddog114 on Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:40 pm
wendellt wrote:nearly 5d better deal than d200
Huh? you've got the best deal on the Canon 5D?
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by gstark on Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:57 pm
Peter,
I've heard some rumors about a special AF version - with Canon's eye-sensing AF technology installed - of the 5D being released; is this what you have?
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by Glen on Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:21 pm
Gary, it doesn't have the eye auto focus of the old EOS versions, don't know why, they were certainly serious cameras in their time. Maybe they thought dslr had enough gimmicky technology already?
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