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B&W printing with special cartridges

PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 11:11 pm
by Hlop
Hi everyone,

I've herd some gossips about some special gray(?) cartridges for Epson(?) to make very high quality B&W prints. Is it true? Which printers and models use these inks? Did anyone's tried or seen these prints?

Re: B&W printing with special cartridges

PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 12:22 am
by AlistairF
Hlop wrote:Hi everyone,

I've herd some gossips about some special gray(?) cartridges for Epson(?) to make very high quality B&W prints. Is it true? Which printers and models use these inks? Did anyone's tried or seen these prints?


Expensive Stuff... and you need minimum Epson 2100 or up.. lke a 4000, 7600 or 9600

http://www.piezography.com/site/bwtimeline.html

I have an Epson 7600 and get amazing BW results when I use a free program called QuadToneRIP http://www.quadtonerip.com ... check it out. You can get good (I mean gallery good) BW prints using Matt Black inks on a good paper such as Moab Entrada.

Alistair

PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 8:52 am
by Hlop
Thanks a lot for info, Alistair.

In this article http://www.piezography.com/site/bwtimeline.html it says
Piezography Neutral K7 can be used with QuadTone RIP and StudioPrint RIP. Available for EPSON 2100/2200, R800/R18000, 4000, 7600, 9600.


Looks like it should not be necessary 2400 and up. 1800 seems to support these inks as well. Just need a confirmation from someone .... Birddog?

PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 3:50 pm
by Hlop
Just wondering .... Many people convert to B&W. Anyone still print them? Is everyone uses just regular inks to print B&W?

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 10:11 am
by Hlop
OK. I'm not pushing it up. I'm asking these questions on purpose.

I like technology of these gray cartridges and if someone else is sharing the idea of proper B&W printing using inkjets, we could make a bulk order saving on delivery. I've ordered one set to try and will let you know results

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 10:29 am
by Sheila Smart
I am buying the Epson 2400 because it has these shades of grey cartridges so I can print pure black and white. My Canon i9950 is incapable of doing so to my satisfaction. I'll let you know what they look like when it arrives shortly.

Cheers
Sheila

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 10:44 am
by Hlop
Sheila Smart wrote:I am buying the Epson 2400 because it has these shades of grey cartridges so I can print pure black and white. My Canon i9950 is incapable of doing so to my satisfaction. I'll let you know what they look like when it arrives shortly.

Cheers
Sheila


I was considering to buy 2400 as well but rejected the idea because it adds just one additional cartridge for B&W printing while this system (mentioned above by Aliastair) uses 7 gray ink cartridges, plus, flushing cart for head cleaning. Also, 2400 is too huge for me

Re: B&W printing with special cartridges

PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 1:56 pm
by Hlop
AlistairF wrote:I have an Epson 7600 and get amazing BW results when I use a free program called QuadToneRIP http://www.quadtonerip.com ... check it out. You can get good (I mean gallery good) BW prints using Matt Black inks on a good paper such as Moab Entrada.

Alistair


Alistair,

As I'm investigating possibility to use these inks in the future many question appear

Have you ever tried to print with these K7 inks on Ilford Smooth inkjet papers? Also, I found somewhere on their web that there are profiles for almost all known inkjet photopapers but I was unable to find these profiles. Are they free or should I buy them separately?

Another question is about QuadToneRIP - it seems to be shareware, not a freeware. Does it leave any "shareware" marks or other traces when you printing in test mode?

Have you tried to print directly from Photoshop or QImage?

PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 2:11 pm
by big pix
Have a look here ...... a lot of info......

http://www.inkjetart.com/forum/index.php

PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 2:29 pm
by Hlop
big pix wrote:Have a look here ...... a lot of info......

http://www.inkjetart.com/forum/index.php


Thanks for the link, BP - interesting reading but, unfortunately, not in this case. Number of different searches brought up just few articles related to K7 inks but nothing about my questions :(

PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 4:01 pm
by Glen
Mikhail, you will be breaking new ground for the forum on this subject, looking forward to hearing about your results :D

PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 4:19 pm
by Hlop
Glen wrote:Mikhail, you will be breaking new ground for the forum on this subject, looking forward to hearing about your results :D


I hope, I can bring some results to the mini-meet on 27/05/2006. Printer is ordered, cartridges have been sent to me. Just waiting now :)