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O/T: Watch this before it gets "yanked"
Posted:
Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:37 pm
by DVEous
... Obsolete ...
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Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:52 pm
by moggy
Fascinating!
Bob.
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Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:52 pm
by johndec
Yeah,I saw that the other day via a link on another forum. An interesting excercise in selective editing. Of course they convieniently forget to tell us if flight 77 didn't crash into the Pentagon, then WTF happened to it? Did it land in the Bermuda triangle and disappear?
The blast damage in the inner rings is consistent with the inverse relationship of the disapation of energy (just like an SB-800)
Posted:
Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:58 pm
by owen
johndec wrote:(just like an SB-800)
Way to bring it back on topic
Posted:
Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:20 am
by Michael
It's certainly an interesting video, they made it well.
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Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:23 am
by Nnnnsic
Nice editing.
I've heard this issue before and I have no idea where I stand on it, either.
Still, interesting.
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Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:38 am
by DJXtreme
it's well put together, but it looks like they went to the michael moore school of selective editing.
i'm not really convinced either way, but as john pointed out, this raised a lot more questions that it answered.
Posted:
Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:51 am
by sirhc55
I have, since seeing the WTC crashes, and the Pentagon crash been 100% certain that the whole operation was a high level American plot.
Only 2,749 death certificates were issued and although any death is unfortunate the question arises as to why there was only 5k to 7k people in each tower. As the first jet hit at 8:46:26am (by the atomic clock) why was there over 40,000 people not at work?
I could go on about this for hours, but will desist.
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Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:53 am
by Michael
sirhc55 wrote:I have, since seeing the WTC crashes, and the Pentagon crash been 100% certain that the whole operation was a high level American plot.
Only 2,749 death certificates were issued and although any death is unfortunate the question arises as to why there was only 5k to 7k people in each tower. As the first jet hit at 8:46:26am (by the atomic clock) why was there over 40,000 people not at work?
I could go on about this for hours, but will desist.
Alot of them evacuated before the collapses?
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Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:24 am
by xorl
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Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:05 am
by DVEous
... Obsolete ...
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Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:21 am
by TonyH
I can't believe that anyone can really doubt the fact that the aircraft hit the pentagon.
The logistics involved to "fake" it under the noses of the employees in the building in addition to timing it with the twin towers attack is just plain impossible.....
Conspiracy theorists always present reasonable arguments, but when really scrutinised rarely hold up.
Just my thoughts....
Posted:
Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:14 am
by stubbsy
And man didn't land on the moon, and UFOs are real, and Harold Holt defected to the KGB, and the CIA organised the Whitlam dismissal, and....
Bottom line is there are lots of things in the world we'll never know are true or false. Better to not waste our time on them
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Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:17 am
by huynhie
stubbsy wrote:And man didn't land on the moon, and UFOs are real, and Harold Holt defected to the KGB, and the CIA organised the Whitlam dismissal, and....
Bottom line is there are lots of things in the world we'll never know are true or false. Better to not waste our time on them
I don't really care about any of those, as long ans Sata Clause is real I am happy.
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Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:32 am
by sirhc55
Michael wrote:sirhc55 wrote:I have, since seeing the WTC crashes, and the Pentagon crash been 100% certain that the whole operation was a high level American plot.
Only 2,749 death certificates were issued and although any death is unfortunate the question arises as to why there was only 5k to 7k people in each tower. As the first jet hit at 8:46:26am (by the atomic clock) why was there over 40,000 people not at work?
I could go on about this for hours, but will desist.
Alot of them evacuated before the collapses?
The figures for the amount of people in the two buildings was as I stated above - maximum people in both buildings 14,000 - these are official figures
Posted:
Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:34 am
by sirhc55
TonyH wrote:I can't believe that anyone can really doubt the fact that the aircraft hit the pentagon.
The logistics involved to "fake" it under the noses of the employees in the building in addition to timing it with the twin towers attack is just plain impossible.....
Conspiracy theorists always present reasonable arguments, but when really scrutinised rarely hold up.
Just my thoughts....
The easiest thing to fake is when it is under military control - I know this from my own experiences with US spooks between ’67 and ’69
Posted:
Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:41 am
by tasadam
huynhie wrote:I don't really care about any of those, as long ans Sata Clause is real I am happy.
Santa Claus is real, and has a nickname with the initials T.H.
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Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:50 am
by smac
Am I missing something here, if a 757 didn't hit the pentagon, then what actually happened to flight 777 and all of the people aboard.....perhaps they were abducted by aliens?
Stuart
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Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:06 pm
by byrt_001
hi
very interesting, but there is a lot of conspiracy theories about it, also about the bomb/s on the towers.
thanks
christian
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Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:20 pm
by admajic
The Towers and the Pentagon, the whole thing is interesting. I dont know why they didnt crash into the building 20 minutes later when there would have been 10000 more ppl there or where they told not to come in that day? An Israeli friend of mine said he knew that the tower was going to get attacked that day.
RE: pentagon I have seen pics that show aircraft parts on the ground at the pentagon. The ppl were arguing that the parts werent from a large aircraft. Who knows....
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Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:22 pm
by admajic
Forgot to mention. Im sure the US used this to build up for there assult on Iraq. We all know they only really went in there to get a dtrong hold on the Oil and probably steal it.
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Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:33 pm
by TonyH
sirhc55 wrote:TonyH wrote:I can't believe that anyone can really doubt the fact that the aircraft hit the pentagon.
The logistics involved to "fake" it under the noses of the employees in the building in addition to timing it with the twin towers attack is just plain impossible.....
Conspiracy theorists always present reasonable arguments, but when really scrutinised rarely hold up.
Just my thoughts....
The easiest thing to fake is when it is under military control - I know this from my own experiences with US spooks between ’67 and ’69
I understand what you are saying, but I reckon it's just too big in terms of scale and timing.....
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Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:34 pm
by TonyH
tasadam wrote:huynhie wrote:I don't really care about any of those, as long ans Sata Clause is real I am happy.
Santa Claus is real, and has a nickname with the initials T.H.
If that's directed at me..... Ho, Ho, Ho,.......
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Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:36 pm
by Alpha_7
TonyH wrote:tasadam wrote:huynhie wrote:I don't really care about any of those, as long ans Sata Clause is real I am happy.
Santa Claus is real, and has a nickname with the initials T.H.
If that's directed at me..... Ho, Ho, Ho,.......
I'd imagine he was actually meaning Thanh aka Birddog giver of gifts.
But I could be wrong.
Posted:
Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:39 pm
by TonyH
On reflection you're probably right
Posted:
Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:42 pm
by whiz
I think that the " Watch this before it gets yanked" is a bit lame now. This site has been up since 2002 when I first saw it.
I think that if it was going to get yanked, the powers that be might have figured out how to do it by now.
Back when I first saw it, I sent it to a friend who had also received links to it many times already.
I call him an authority because he was one of the many people who physically SAW THE PLANE HIT THE PENTAGON. He was walking towards it at the time and would have been attending a course there in the next half an hour. Right next to him was another Navy guy who I also consider to be an authority on that issue.
They both have the best available Defence Security Clearances and neither are in the habit of telling fibs about such things.
Both of them can't understand why this bullshit is being perpetuated as almost 100 eyewitnesses saw the hit.
Many more were in buildings that the plane flew past.
So lets kill this conspiracy theory.
As for the US invading Iraq, why didn't they "help out" other countries without oil?
As has been said.
The only reason that the WTC collapses didn't kill a LOT more people is that most people in the WTC start work at 9am.
Sorry, but the answer is that simple. They weren't there yet.
Posted:
Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:42 pm
by birddog114
TonyH wrote:On reflection you're probably right
TonyH,
You could be a Santa Claus at this Xmas dinner for Brisbane Chapter in November.
Posted:
Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:46 pm
by TonyH
birddog114 wrote:TonyH wrote:On reflection you're probably right
TonyH,
You could be a Santa Claus at this Xmas dinner for Brisbane Chapter in November.
Could do it Birdie, if you can get a suit large enough to fit...... Santa looks like he's anorexic compared to me.....