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Help with Hollows

PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:23 pm
by stubbsy
Yikes. I can't decide between these three images as to which best fits the Fred Hollows theme of All things ordinary look extraordinary. So I need your help:

Which one #1, #2 or #3 (you can click for a larger version)?

#1
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#2
Image


#3 (this one's a gas flame outside a restaurant)
Image

PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:27 pm
by Manta
Peter - what a dilemma!!!

I love the artsy nature of the gas flame but, for me, the boats have taken on an ethereal aspect that's hard to beat.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:36 pm
by moz
Yeah, mee too on the boats. There's just something that holds my eye there.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:38 pm
by ozczecho
Peter, the boats are awesome.

HTH :D

PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:10 pm
by adam
I like them in the order posted :) First the first, 2nd the 2nd (boats), and lastly the fire :)

PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:20 pm
by Geoff
Peter, me too!! One, two and three, in that order!! LOVE your work matey :)

PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:28 pm
by gstark
Two, two, and then two. :)

PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:29 pm
by Oz_Beachside
wow, inspiring, I'm heading down to the Marina this weekend...


I love the boats, love the high contrast of white against black.

From the theme point of view, I really like the first, since the ocean is more "common place" than a marina.

All great images, thanks for sharing.

Cheers,
Oz

PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:22 pm
by myarhidia
Hi Stubbsy,

#2 is a great shot, my favourite out of the three, however, it is just a photo of boats in a marina, IMO, nothing extraordinary. Please note, I'm not putting this photo down, it is a fantastic shot & I absolutely love it.

In line with the theme, ALL THINGS ORDINARY, LOOK EXTRAORDINARY you cannot go past #3 the flame, it looks like a man dancing, nothing ordinary about that.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:47 pm
by asaroha
I agree with myarhidia.

While all 3 are truly beautiful shots, I personally think #3 fits the theme best.
#1 is a bit hard to recognize as an ORDINARY object and #2 is just doesn't scream EXTRAORDINARY

PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:47 am
by Oscar
Peter, what a dilemma. My personal preferences are #2 then #1 & then #3. In the context of the contest my thinking would probably be #3, #1 & #2.
However the dilemma is how do we expect the judges to pick their favourite. Maybe they will pick the boats as it is a truly superb shot or the pool as it is a nature shot which also looks superb. Or then a gain will they recognize the beauty of the dancing flame?

Too much for my humble opinion. I'd be tempted to enter all three. :)
Cheers, Mick

PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:02 am
by gstark
Mick,

I'm not sure that there's any judging of these images, beyond the judgement the purchasers might make.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:09 am
by Oscar
Duh! Just read the announcement a bit further. In that case is it just a matter of which shot you would like to get accepted and have sold?
Think I'd go with the boats - I'm sure a lot of people would part with some cash for that shot. Cheers, Mick

PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:54 am
by Laurie
ohly pcra!!
I cant even speak enlish after seeing the 2nd pic.

absoutley stunning stubbsy! very very much like it!!
omg!
wow!

PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:41 pm
by pippin88
Peter, I really like the second image. But, I've seen it many times, and each time I feel like the boats are going to float down to the right side of the photo. Horizon doesn't feel level to me.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:41 pm
by Matt. K
Peter
Image #4! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:39 am
by stubbsy
Thank you all for your comments. It seems the boats at the marina is the general consensus and I've gone with that image. But I took Nick's advice and straightened the horizon.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:47 am
by sirhc55
Image #3, portrait counter clockwise and titled The Flame Flower

PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:54 am
by rokkstar
I actually preferred the original shot you put up Peter, but this one is no slouch either. Great shot.

What resolution and sizing are you uploading it with? I know this has been covered somewhere but I can't locate the correct thread.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:02 am
by MHD
As big as you can Matt....
The one you upload will be used in printing... While only a 640 downsized version will be displayed on the site to protect submitters IP

PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:21 am
by stubbsy
Chris, Matt - don't do this to me!

Matt - I originally scaled the image to be 16" X 10.5", but I'm in the middle of uploading a new version that's scaled up to be 32" x 21" @ 200 ppi resolution (images are to be 20 x 16 framed, this is twice what is needed since I figure that will give more detail - but see my tag line below :wink: ). I tried it with Genuine Fractals AND with just PSCS2 and decide PSCS2 was better & faster (I used Bicubic sharper resampling). I then changed the image to 8 bit colour and converted to sRGB with Perceptual rendering. The resultant jpeg was 7.1Mb (max upload size is 8)

Here's what Oz said about framing:
Oz_Beachside wrote:PLEASE NOTE, 16 x 20 or 20 x 16 IS THE MOUNT SIZE. NOT the image print size. For example, I will have the prints mounted at 16 x 20 inches, but the images must be smaller. If you wanted to have a 2" margin/border matt board (top , left and right sides), and 3" footer, your image should be just a tad over 11x16, or thats how I would see the printing.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:20 pm
by Oz_Beachside
Hello,

A big thanks to those already posted images, there are 12 great images in there already.

Thats 84 people's sight may be saved.

Lets keep going... I know I am still to grab a pic...

have a great day
Oz

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:15 pm
by rokkstar
I've uploaded a 300dpi at 16cm x 25cm (approx) which is 6" x 10". Will they printed at 300dpi or reduced to say 200? Or should I resample and re-upload?

Can't understand why I'm having so much trouble with this printing malarky.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:13 pm
by stubbsy
Matt

If they were being inkjet printed my understanding is printers are actually only around 240 dpi from my reading of this article, but I'm guessing they'll be done at a lab so I'm not certain of that.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:44 pm
by marcotrov
All three are worthy Peter but I'd go with #3. Terrific!
cheers
marco

Dilemma?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 4:23 pm
by zafra52
I like the second best because of the glass reflection and the symmetric arrangement. Of course the other photos are also very good. I guess it all depends on how they are framed and where they end up being hung.