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Is this for real ??? D200 + CF + 55-200mm lens for $1200

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 4:31 pm
by blackD200
http://www.tradingpost.com.au/iteminfo/ ... ectronics_

Seen this in the trading post a few times now in the past few weeks or of similar ad. seems to good to be true - tried calling it but could not get through..

NIKON D200+NIKKOR LENSE Nikon D200 supplied accessories, Strap, Body cap, Eyepiece cap DK-5, Eyecup DK-21, USB cable UC-E4, Charger MH-18a with power cord, Videocable, all software CD and (Dutch, English) Manuals, Nikkor AF-S DX 55-200mm f/4-5.6G ED zoom lens, memory card Lexar 1GB. PC $1,200

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:11 pm
by losfp
If it looks too good to be true..... ;)

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:18 pm
by Ivanerrol
Unless its been for a swim, dropped or has 100,000 shutter actuations.

Its what's not said in the ads rather than what is said. :roll:

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:20 pm
by TonyH
looks like a con to me.....

I'm sure you'll only be able to contact them via email as the telephone number is an internet line (I'm sure it is), they'll probably only sell to people located at a distance from them, as you couldn't collect.... ask you to deposit money into an account and the camera will never show.

As you're possibly aware with an internet telephone number the person can be in Malaysia and have an Australian telephone number.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:35 pm
by blackD200
Its been advertised in the TP for a few weeks - prob a couple of months now. Sometimes with a lens and sometimes without.

I wouldnt wanna buy it - it just seems that everytime i do a search on TP for NIKON - this same ad keeps appearing...

#1 even....

PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:07 am
by MATT
Well it says Bunderbergf, I'm only 4 hrs from there and heading to Brisbane.. Wonder if they will let me pickup...
I'll email and see.


Cheers

MATT

PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:56 am
by Raskill
MATT wrote:Well it says Bunderbergf, I'm only 4 hrs from there and heading to Brisbane.. Wonder if they will let me pickup...
I'll email and see.


Cheers

MATT


4 hours from Bilo to Brisbane??

Don't they have speed limits in QLd anymore??? :lol: :wink:

PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:11 pm
by blackD200
MATT wrote:Well it says Bunderbergf, I'm only 4 hrs from there and heading to Brisbane.. Wonder if they will let me pickup...
I'll email and see.


Cheers

MATT


if its a legit sale then someone is going to get an absolute bargain.
but having seen the advert a few times float on TP - hhmmmm... i dont know ???? :?

let us know how you go....

PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:24 pm
by MATT
Raskill wrote:
MATT wrote:Well it says Bunderbergf, I'm only 4 hrs from there and heading to Brisbane.. Wonder if they will let me pickup...
I'll email and see.


Cheers

MATT


4 hours from Bilo to Brisbane??

Don't they have speed limits in QLd anymore??? :lol: :wink:


Ahh you miss read grasshopper... Bilo to Bundy then onto Brisbane.. But I have seen Bilo to Brisbane in 4hrs :wink: but not me :twisted:


MATT

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:43 am
by MATT
Some people are triers.... Here is his response.

Hello,
Sorry for my late email.
Unfortunately i had to leave country, i am now in Europe for some business. I took the camera with me, in case i can make a deal and sell it. Maybe you have tried to ring my phone number and nobody answered that is because i am out of the country (sorry for the inconvenience) . The camera is still for sale. It is a new camera, warranty 2 years, from Nikon.
For delivery and payment i will use Global Express ( http://www.globalcourrier.com ). Here how it goes. I make delivery, you make payment to Global Express. Money are kept by them until you receive and inspect the camera. After that you contact them and they send money to me. This way we are both secure, I will be waiting your email.
Thanks, Doss



Cheers
MATT

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:51 am
by losfp
Mmmm scamtastic :)

I've seen that web address before. I particularly like how they have misspelt "courier" :D

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:05 am
by rookie2
Thanks, Doss


maybe that should read ..... thanks, Toss :P :P

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:54 pm
by gstark
MATT wrote:It is a new camera, warranty 2 years, from Nikon.


Who only ever offer a one year warranty.

Might be worth a bit of fun to ask how he manages to get such a good warranty.

From where did the email originate? The headers might be of interest.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:24 pm
by timbo
From his use of syntax and excuse of leaving the country on business, it sounds like the same guy who tried this on eBay last year. A friend of mine got v. excited about a (literally) unbelievable deal on some high end Canon gear. He hadn't purchased on eBay before and was just about to send $6500 to this blike when he flicked me the listing.

I checked out the seller's history: 2,000 odd transactions, 100% positive. Sounded good, but when I checked the most recent sale it was a postage stamp.

Ditto for the next one, and so on... turns out the swindler was based in Italy and had hijacked the account of a sweet little old lady philatelist somewhere in QLD who had a simple password. I contacted my mate, then managed to get thru the maze to eBay 'security' and they eventually struck him off. It was a very close call. There were about 50 watchers on the sale at the time, and I'm sure he would have 'sold' the same item to them all. It pays to check these things out!

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:38 pm
by MATT
OK I like playing games. So here is the reply from me

Hi, thanks for the reply..

Shame you are not there , I was coming out your way to Bunderberg and could have picked up the camera. Buy the way who owns the pub in Bunderberg now? Globel Express also do COD so maybe you could send it COD and then I’d be even happier about handing over my money, you understand cant be to careful.

Also how did you get the special 2 yrs warrenty from Nikon, I hear they only give that to special custormers or Pro’s? Has this camera had Pro use?

Cheers
MATT


His address is a yahoo account also..

I'll play his game for a while could be fun.

MATT

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:48 pm
by timbo
losfp wrote:Mmmm scamtastic :)

I've seen that web address before. I particularly like how they have misspelt "courier" :D


They spell 'courier' three different ways on the homepage! Fabulous!

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:50 pm
by adam
Soon we get a new member here named DOSS :)


It'll be interesting how this turns out, the fact that it's still available after so long at that price, and he can't get a deal for it, even in Europe, doesn't sound right.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:01 pm
by MATT
Did you try the live help box.. Funny I got no reply when I asked to be scammed??


MATT

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:06 pm
by timbo
MATT wrote:Did you try the live help box.. Funny I got no reply when I asked to be scammed??
MATT


Not yet... I was preoccupied searching for any sign of a logo on all those impressive truck and plane shots :lol:

Still searching...

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:57 pm
by Traveller130

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 6:04 pm
by seeto.centric
who wastes a D200 on a 55-200mm anyway? :roll:

sounds like scam to me..


-julz

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:00 pm
by blackD200
Traveller130 wrote:Is this the same guy???
http://www.tradingpost.com.au/iteminfo/ ... ectronics_


interesting !!!! -> this is similar ad i saw about a month ago and a bit ago.
I'm sure its the smae guy.

I'd like to see how this experiment pans out...

PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:18 am
by blackD200
What an absolute scammer - his latest ad, he's based in melbourne but on a business trip to Europe..

I sent him email showing interest on the items - and got the same response...

Hello,
Sorry for my late email and Happy Hollidays !
Unfortunately i had to leave country, i am now in Europe for business and hollidays!. I took the camera with me, in case i can make a deal and sell it. Maybe you have tried to ring my phone number and nobody answered that is because i am out of the country (sorry for the inconvenience) . The camera is still for sale. It is a new camera, warranty 2 years, from Nikon.
For delivery and payment i will use Global Express ( http://www.globalcourrier.com ). Here how it goes. I make delivery, you make payment to Global Express. Money are kept by them until you receive and inspect the camera. After that you contact them and they send money to me. This way we are both secure, I will be waiting your email.
Thanks, Bruce


No doubt that this is a scam... --> Buyers Beware !!!!!

PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:15 am
by gstark
IS this something that we should be reporting to the Trading Post.

It is clearly a scam, and they, surely, have a responsibility to be killing the ad?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:21 am
by Greg B
gstark wrote:IS this something that we should be reporting to the Trading Post.

It is clearly a scam, and they, surely, have a responsibility to be killing the ad?


Yes in my view.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:54 am
by petal666
This guy was selling a Canon 1D II in the TP for about $1000 over a year a go now. I emailed TP and they did nothing. I don't think that they care. I had the guy going for about a week though, pretending I was totally dumb and couldn't work out how to pay him via Western Union. It was funny.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:23 pm
by blackD200
gstark wrote:IS this something that we should be reporting to the Trading Post.

It is clearly a scam, and they, surely, have a responsibility to be killing the ad?


I beleive we should.

I will send an email to TP. It is hard to track sellers like this though. The TP internet submission forms are automated and as long as he/she have a unique email address - he/she can easily create another account.


This guy was selling a Canon 1D II in the TP for about $1000 over a year a go now. I emailed TP and they did nothing. I don't think that they care. I had the guy going for about a week though, pretending I was totally dumb and couldn't work out how to pay him via Western Union. It was funny.


Looks like this guys been runing this scam for a while -- Its people like these that would burn :evil: people like us :( ( looking for a bargain )..

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:24 am
by gstark
blackD200 wrote:
gstark wrote:IS this something that we should be reporting to the Trading Post.

It is clearly a scam, and they, surely, have a responsibility to be killing the ad?


I beleive we should.

I will send an email to TP. It is hard to track sellers like this though. The TP internet submission forms are automated and as long as he/she have a unique email address - he/she can easily create another account.


Even so, there is no excuse for them to continue the ad's placement once it's been discovered to be a scam.

Please keep me informed of the progress of this - PM me if you like.

If the TP doesn't seem to want to take an interest in this (wouldn't surprise me, given their ownership) I think I have another means of making them sit up and take notice.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:38 pm
by blackD200
gstark wrote:Even so, there is no excuse for them to continue the ad's placement once it's been discovered to be a scam.

Please keep me informed of the progress of this - PM me if you like.

If the TP doesn't seem to want to take an interest in this (wouldn't surprise me, given their ownership) I think I have another means of making them sit up and take notice.


Here is the email I sent to TP.. Will keep you guys up tp date what they do with it..

Dear TP,

I've been looking for a NIKON D200 through the trading post and have notice 2 different ads from different states.

http://www.tradingpost.com.au/iteminfo/ ... ectronics_


http://www.tradingpost.com.au/iteminfo/ ... ectronics_


Upon contacting this guy the response was the following both times:

------------------------------------------------------
Hello,
Sorry for my late email and Happy Hollidays !
Unfortunately i had to leave country, i am now in Europe for business and hollidays!. I took the camera with me, in case i can make a deal and sell it. Maybe you have tried to ring my phone number and nobody answered that is because i am out of the country (sorry for the inconvenience) . The camera is still for sale. It is a new camera, warranty 2 years, from Nikon.
For delivery and payment i will use Global Express ( http://www.globalcourrier.com ). Here how it goes. I make delivery, you make payment to Global Express. Money are kept by them until you receive and inspect the camera. After that you contact them and they send money to me. This way we are both secure, I will be waiting your email.
Thanks, Bruce
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The D200 is currently retailing between $2100-$2600, and for this guy to be selling it for $1200 w/ lenses was just such a good deal.

I've seen this same ad a few times since NOV last year. Same type of picture and about the same price $1200ish.. Its recently that I got serious and actually wanted to buy the product and contacted the person.

This guy uses "bruceho2005 yahoo.com" as his email address without the @ symbol.

I'm sure that this is not a legit sale. I don’t know if theres any way of TP preventing advertisers like this, but I thought I’d raise it to you anyway - don’t know if this guy have burnt any buyers yet but if he has - they got scammed via the "Trading Post".

Just a concerned long time Tradingpost customer/User...

PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:13 pm
by blackD200
incase anyone is interested - here is TPs response - I can understand that its hard to put a complete stop to scam like these but atleast they reconised and done something about my message..

hopefully the scammer havent taken any $$$$ yet from bargain hunters out there....

Thanks for your email. I've checked both those advert numbers and our
Trust & Safety team have pulled the ads off and suspended the user
accounts. We get quite a few people placing fraudulent adverts for items
that are "overseas", usually cars, but now they appear to be branching
out into other categories.

Unfortunately there is no way of preventing them, as they just come back
the next week with another name, stolen credit card, free email account
and bogus advert.

For more information on the various scams to keep an eye out for, please
follow this link to our Trading Ideas forum.

http://www.tradingpost.com.au/tradingId ... m37-1.aspx

Thank you for bringing this matter to our attention. Fortunately thanks
to the efforts of our T&S team fraudulent adverts tend to be removed
before unsuspecting customers are conned into parting with their cash.

I wish you all the best with your future online trading experience, and
should you require any further information or assistance please do not
hesitate to contact us.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:19 pm
by Greg B
That is a pretty reasonable response from TP in my view.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:06 pm
by gstark
The response is a positive one, and indicates a proactive approach to the problem.

As they point out, it's difficult to control, and I think this response is as good as one might expect.

Thanx for keeping us appraised of this one.