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[LOST] Noise at ISO 1600

PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:59 pm
by PiroStitch
Just received the 5D today and boy am I going to love this beast :)

It's not as different to the Nikon system as I expected - already getting the hang of it :) But shame on you Canon for not providing LCD protectors :evil:

So where's the noise at ISO 1600 I ask? Wayyyy off in the distant history now :D

Link to 100% crop

Re: [LOST] Noise at ISO 1600

PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:34 pm
by DaveB
PiroStitch wrote:So where's the noise at ISO 1600 I ask?

It's down around the boots in that shot. Can't you see all that horrible colour noise? :lol:

Oh yeah, maybe my standards are different as I've been with Canon for a while. ;)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 12:05 am
by Steffen
I don't get it, is this a Nikon or a Canon shot? There's plenty of noise visible in the 100% image.

Here's a full-size of a shot I took of my room back in January :wink:

http://www.dotnet.org/dslrusers/flowstone-full.jpg

D2H, ISO 1600, the only PP was WB adjust and a bit of sharpening. No Noise Ninja (in fact, this was "developed" in Aperture).

Cheers
Steffen.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 12:08 am
by Cre8tivepixels
There is HEAP of noise in that? My understanding is that Nikon have alot of Luma noise/canon colour noise. That looks really bad

PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 2:02 am
by PiroStitch
I'll be doing a comparison this weekend b/ween the D2Xs and the 5D - will be interesting to see what happens at the high ISO settings :)

One thing I've noticed about the 5D, there's less twiddling around with the options before you start shooting. Pretty much had the camera ready for me to use within half an hour. I kind of miss having heaps of options :lol:

PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 2:10 am
by bumthology
being a noob still to DSLR's and having a D40 (which i would NOT replace for a D50)
i'm not sure if you were being sarcastic in your post.

Personally i do see a lot of noise,

PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 3:18 am
by PiroStitch
Sorry if the initial post was misunderstood - yes indeed it was a tad tongue in cheek ;)

Here's the 100% crop of same settings for the D2Xs

No I didn't manipulate the curves to bring out more noise. I did do curve manipulation on both shots to get a decent exposure and the 5D still came out with a lot less noise.

I'll take a few shots under more favourable conditions at high ISO over the weekend and see how the shots go.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 5:38 am
by wendellt
your lucky

now you have the best from both worlds
the canon though does handle noise better this is realtive to exposure though but in direct comparisson to the d2x 5d is much better at noise handling

enjoy the 5d

PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:40 am
by johnd
The noise in the d2x shot is terrible Wayne. I'd better stick with my d200. :wink:
Cheers
John

PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:15 am
by Steffen
Wow, that D2x must be defective (you should have waited with this picture until the camera was sold :wink: ). I get better results from my webcam at dim lighting...

Or was the shot underexposed by two stops and then pulled back up?

Cheers
Steffen.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:58 am
by Alex
Hi Wayne,

Congratulations with the new toy!

Alex

PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:04 pm
by bumthology
i want one now
i want a new toy like you

PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:09 pm
by Kris
Wow, massive difference between the D2X and 5D

Welcome to the 5D club - enjoy :)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:13 pm
by mic
Wayne,

Let me get this straight :roll: you have a D2X & a Canon 5D


Have you won Lotto lately & can I have a loan if this is the case

Enjoy your tinkering with both beasts

How I wish I had money & time on my hands

Mic :wink:

PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:40 pm
by PiroStitch
Mic - I wish I had won the lottery. Alas I'm giving up the Nikon gear to fund the switch over to Canon

Just to clarify and prevent any misintepretations, this post and pic comparisons are not there to bash Nikon. Nikon are a bloody awesome system but it does not meet my requirements anymore hence my move.

It was a painful decision for me to make the switch especially after having worked so hard to get to the D2Xs, I likened it as to having to end a relationship. But it had to be done as I really felt I was being limited by the abilities of the Nikon cameras. I was already there with their top model and I still had the issue with high ISO noise and I couldn't go anywhere else. Indeed I could persevere and wait it out until they get it right, but in the process potentially missing out on a number of opportunities due to a technical limitation. There are many valid points to debate this point, however the choice has been made :)

I really do appreciate Nikons and always will as it has led me to where I am today. I am not switching to Canon in bitterness but the experience has really shown me that there's a lot more to photography equipment than when I was solely concentrating on Nikon. I may pickup Nikon again in the future, who knows. There's no reason why someone can't have both Nikon and Canon gear to be able to use one or the other to suit different situations.

Have fun shooting all and I look forward to posting more photos in the future. Will put some up from my Japan and Vanuatu trip soon.

Cheers,

Wayne

PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:17 pm
by mic
Thats your call Wayne & a good one.

Very interesting, very interesting indeed !

Look forward to your new experience with Canon

Mic. :wink: