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Printing

PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 6:12 pm
by Div
Hi guys,

After deciding to dive into the can of worms that is colour management I was wondering how many people print their own photo's with a printer at home? Or do most people get them done at a lab and get the ICC from them?

-Dave

PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 6:49 pm
by gstark
Many here find the Epson R1800 - or its smaller sibling, the R800 - do better than excellent jobs, for very reasonable prices.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:10 pm
by Killakoala
I can confirm that as I have both printers :)

PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:51 pm
by Reschsmooth
I print on the R1800, which, in a very timely fashion, leads me to a question: all of a sudden, images which seem light enough on my screen (laptop) are printing off dark. I am printing on Ilford Galleria Smooth Pearl, and I use the Ilford profile for the paper.

Would this be an issue of monitor calibration or something else?

Cheers

P

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:19 am
by Div
Laptops are pretty hard to work off and calibrate (without a colorimeter) I would imagine due to the different viewing angles on the screen. But if you weren't having this trouble before and it just started suddenly? From what I have read it recommends to calibrate the monitor quite often due changes throughout the life time. But you think it would be gradual and not a sudden effect. Changed anything, like paper or profile?

Oh and anyone know of cheap places to get these printers?

-Dave

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:23 am
by Reschsmooth
We have been using the Ilford paper since day one. We don't print that often, but this difference between what is on the screen and what is printed seems relatively sudden.

A slight change in viewing angle with the laptop does make a huge difference!

P

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:56 am
by Killakoala
I've been down that path before. :)

I would suggest ;

1. Checking for new updated profiles.

2. Converting the image to CYMK prior to printing.

3. Checking settings in the advanced tab for the printer. (Make sure ICM is checked OFF)

4. Follow exactly the settings instructions in the profile PDF document.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:07 am
by Spooky
Last week I got myself an epson 3800. Very happy with the output. I haven't had a bad print yet.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:40 am
by Div
Hi Reschsmooth,

Since you have a printer profile you should be able to proof pretty well on screen.

This is for photoshop cs2 apparently quite different in CS.

If you go file > print with preview then select the show more option you can choose color management from the drop down.

Set "let photoshop determine colors" and then set your printer profile to your ICC

For rendering intent (depending on your image) I would go relative as this doesn't shift all your colours it just shifts those not reproducible in CYMK. Make sure you have black point compensation checked.

I found other people having the same problem as you on this forum and they seemed to come to a similar conclusion.

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/arc ... 16530.html

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:29 pm
by CraigVTR
Div
This is no help. But I will be going through the same options soon as I just bought an Epson R2400.
Craig :D

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:46 pm
by Div
Really the above doesn't help?

I haven't tried it out myself but if Reschsmooth finds an answer hopefully he will let us know.

Let us know how the Epson R2400 prints when you test it out?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:38 am
by CraigVTR
CraigVTR wrote:Div
This is no help. But I will be going through the same options soon as I just bought an Epson R2400.
Craig :D


Sorry guys, I meant my comment was no help. The comments made by everyone else will be used when I pickup and setup the new printer. I just have to extend my office desk to fit the printer in.

Craig :D

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:43 am
by Reschsmooth
Div wrote:Really the above doesn't help?

I haven't tried it out myself but if Reschsmooth finds an answer hopefully he will let us know.

Let us know how the Epson R2400 prints when you test it out?


I will try it out soon, but have to wait on setting up CS2 properly first, and then taking a photo worth printing.

Thanks for the help.

Cheers

P