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What lens to buy

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:01 pm
by Jeff
Well its time to buy a wide lens,it is narrowed down to the Tokina 12-24 or the Sigma 10-20.
There are so many reviews on these lens and I had almost decided on the Tokina, then Gary a confirmed anti Sigma person just purchased one and suddenly I'm thinking that the Sigma must be very good.
I need guidance from you guys.
Help please

Jeff

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:19 pm
by Raskill
Good luck with this purchase, I'll be watching closley.....

:D

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:20 pm
by Jeff
Alan maybe we buy one of each and swap.

Jeff

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:23 pm
by Raskill
Hmmm......

That would give my wife DOUBLE the amount of reasons to bash me.....

:wink:

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:24 pm
by Kyle
By all accounts the sigma seems to be great value Jeff :D

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:26 pm
by Raskill
What is this, a BIMF reunion?

Why aren't you all drinking rum at an RSL?

:roll:

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:31 pm
by Jeff
I would rather be ,but too much house duties.

Jeff

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:35 pm
by Raskill
I'm only just out of bed, worked last night, caught teenage girls who think ANZAC's are murderers...... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:38 pm
by Kyle
Raskill wrote:I'm only just out of bed, worked last night, caught teenage girls who think ANZAC's are murderers...... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


Heard about that, WTF? :?

What do you do for a dayjob alan?


Ps. Calling barry! barry are you with us? :lol:

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:42 pm
by Raskill
Kyle wrote:Heard about that, WTF? :?

What do you do for a dayjob alan?



A member of the constabulary... :D

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:47 pm
by Kyle
Oh Shit!

And i was doing skids all weekend in bathurst, driving like a looney heading to Orange :oops: :lol:

Was it you that busted the girls?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:49 pm
by Raskill
Yes, very angry with them to say the least. I've seen some low acts since I've been in the job, but that took the cake! :evil:

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:52 pm
by jberth1
I'll keep an eye on this thread as well. For identical money I can't decide either - I'd also pretty much decided on the Tokina as for my use 12mm would be wide enough, but on occassions the 24mm might be handier than the 20mm...same front element (filter) size, but the Tokina is marginally larger.

Optically both seem nice.....

Cheers

Justin

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:00 pm
by TonyH
Watching..... Watching...... :D

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:21 pm
by iGBH
I'm also very interested in this. As you said there are a lot of reviews/comparisons of these lenses out there and it's hard to pick a definite winner.

I think at the end of the day, you can't go wrong with either of them.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:29 pm
by shakey
Went through the same torture about 12 months ago. Decided on the Sigma. That extra 2 mm was just too tempting. I'm happy with it. Though I'm sure I would have been happy with the tokina as well.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:33 am
by Jeff
Thanks shakey, from the reviews there seems little difference between them which tends to make decisions difficult. I thats why input from actual users is informative.

Jeff

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:49 am
by michael_
nikon dont offer anything that wide?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:09 pm
by gstark
Raskill wrote:I'm only just out of bed, worked last night, caught teenage girls who think ANZAC's are murderers...... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


Alan,

Great work on that front. I know that you're only doing your job, but a big thank you anyway.

Jeff,

Thus far I am very impressed with Sigma 10-20. It feels very much at home on the D200, and its build quality is way above anything I've seen previously from Sigma. There's the first checkpoint.

I was using it last night at the Empire, and I'm still very much in a learning mode on the D200 - I'm not yet satisfied with the out of camera colours that I'm seeing (but I've only made about 300 exposures thus far) - but in chimping some of the images, the apparant sharpness that I'm seeing in some of the images is quite impressive. I'm suspecting close to those on the 80-400, and way better than I dared to hope for a lens in this price range.

I'm also using a new, superslim 77mm UV filter that Poon dropped into the box for me. That seems to be serving me no ill effects whatsoever.

I'm hoping to get to post a couple of last night's images later this evening, and if I can see what I thought I saw while chimping, I'll include a full crop for y'all.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:11 pm
by gstark
michael_ wrote:nikon dont offer anything that wide?


Michael,

The Nikkor zoom goes to 12mm, they also have the 10.5 fisheye, but that's a different .... kettle of fish. :)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:24 pm
by radar
I have the Tokina, lovely lens, built like a tank. I haven't found an occasion yet that I missed the extra 2mm wide.

On the Tokina, if you want a UV or CPL filter, you will need a slim line version otherwise you do get vignetting at 12mm. Not sure on the Sigma.

As mentioned above, it doesn't look like you can go wrong with either.

Cheers,

André

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:36 pm
by Yi-P
radar wrote:On the Tokina, if you want a UV or CPL filter, you will need a slim line version otherwise you do get vignetting at 12mm. Not sure on the Sigma.

Cheers,

André


I use a normal 'thick' Hoya 77mm CPL on top of the Sigma, doesn't seem to cause vignetting but at extreme wide angle it does show up with the uneven exposure through the frame... Nothing much you can do with this extreme wide angle with a CPL on top...

http://yiph.zenfolio.com/p487896247/

Some samples taken with this len on CPL, midday sun and maximum polarizing effects seen. Some has bit of uneven exposure through the sky, but it does seem good for a lens this wide.