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Epson Printers Anything New

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:43 am
by MATT
I am currently deciding whether to buy a R1800 printer, was wondering if anyone had heard of anything new from Epson??The r1800 has been around a while.

Is it safe to assume I would want one using the pigment ink? I have used an r310 and the prints only last 3-6 months on the fridge about 12 months under glass.

Has anyone tried the 1410(I think thats the new model) ? Feedback! As I would like an A3+ printer these seem the logical choices.


Cheers
MATT

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 2:27 pm
by Matt. K
The new 3800 I think it is....A2 using the same or similar ink set to the R1800. The price is less than $2000 I believe. The only thing that stops it from being a masterpiece is that it has no roll feed capabilities.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 3:40 pm
by radar
MATT,

the R1800 would give you better prints then the R1410, they use two different types of ink, pigment and dye respectively.

The R2400, R3800 and above use the Ultrachrome K3 inks, yet another step above the R1800 inks. However, the R1800 still makes wonderful photos, it uses a different type of Ultrachrome inks.

I would suggest you just get one of R1800/R2400/R3800 depending on your budget, you won't be disappointed.

HTH,

André

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:28 pm
by MATT
Thanks for the info..

I was just worried if I spent $1k on a printer , a replacement would arrive shortly after. I have that uncanny ability..

The r1800 seems reasonably price now. It also seems well received.

For those that have it , do you use it only for prints or as an everyday printer as well. My concerns would be the running costs of an everyday printer.

I still have th e old r310 with generic inks I suppose but I dont want the hassle of two printers.


Cheers
MATT

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:34 pm
by sirhc55
I would never run a printer such as the R1800 as an everyday printer, The cost of inks would make this prohibitive.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:00 pm
by MATT
Hi often would I have to print and image or whatever to ensure I don't get a blocked head or anything.

I may print off 1 or 2 images once a week may be less.

Cheers
MATT

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:10 pm
by Matt. K
Matt
Once a week is fine. I've found we can leave them for 6 weeks without printing anything and they fire up and work perfectly. What is important is to ensure that you turn the printer off if it's not going to being used within the hour. This ensures that the head gets parked and the jets sealed.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:28 pm
by MATT
Does the turning off thing go for all Epson printers??

Anyone have a link to a place that can deliver at a good price?


Cheers
MATT

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:42 pm
by Colcam
Epson seem to have the edge here still and between the R1800 and the 1410, I would say that the R1800 has been around for a while, so possibly could be replaced soon, but does produce very nice results when using good paper and accurate profiles. It uses the same pigment inks as the R800.
The 1410 is newer and uses dye based inks, but they are a much improved quality. Go to http://www.epson.com.au/products/inkjet ... to1410.asp and click on the Claria Inks link on that page for an explanation. Wilhelm Associates have tested it too.

I have sold both of these to photographers and both are delighted.
If your budget runs to a 3800, http://www.epson.com.au/prographics/pro ... luspro3800 you will right in the Pro league with the excellent K3 inks which will allow you to produce stunning prints in both colour and its Advanced B&W modes due to it having both Photo black & Matte black inks in the machine. Sheet feed only up to A2 is the only restriction (No roll feed) I would have myself to supplement my 7800 if it ran to roll feed. Damn! I am waiting for the next models in the Pro range myself. Yummy :D
All the best
Col

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:57 pm
by Colcam
MATT wrote:Hi often would I have to print and image or whatever to ensure I don't get a blocked head or anything. I may print off 1 or 2 images once a week may be less. Cheers
MATT

Try printing a printhead test pattern from your printer properties Utility section rather than a whole image and do a head clean if there are gaps. Particularly if it lives in an air conditioned room. I have a suspicion that it dries the inks on the head somewhat. Hot weather I have no trouble with it if the room is warm. I always run a test pattern before each print job due to the fact that my weekly print jobs usually run to about 5 - 7 two metre long pages 61cm wide, so I can't afford to have it stuff up. :shock: :shock: I did it once :cry:
Col

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:19 pm
by MATT
The budget wont run to a 3800 unfortunately.. Colcam the 2400 uses the K3 inks would this be a better option than the 1800??

I like the idea of the ability to take a roll also. Don't know if I'd use it, but would hate to want it and not use it.

Thanks
MATT

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:32 pm
by Colcam
MATT wrote:The budget wont run to a 3800 unfortunately.. Colcam the 2400 uses the K3 inks would this be a better option than the 1800?? I like the idea of the ability to take a roll also. Don't know if I'd use it, but would hate to want it and not use it. MATT


Indeed Matt, it would as it still uses the K3 inks like the big kids do AND it has a roll paper capability too if I recall. These things do amazing B&Ws on art papers like Canson, Arches, Hahnemuhle, etc. The down side is that this printer, like all of it's big Pro brothers (except for the 3800) cannot run the Matte black and the Photo black inks in the machine at one time. You have to change them over and then do a run of (respectively) art papers or photo paper. Look around and you can get good prices here & there on this one.

Go to http://www.wilhelm-research.com/ for the best advice in archival stuff.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:40 pm
by MATT
Ok, thanks for the quick reply..Food for thought.

Will start my look around.

Thanks to all again

MATT