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Not sure if this is just me, but this colour difference is kinda getting me around and around in circles...

I took this shot, processed it with lightroom, export it as JPEG under Adobe RGB (1998) ICC profile. When I view it under 3 different software, Photoshop CS2, Windows XP, and Firefox 2. They all produced different colours

I do have my monitor calibrated and the screenshot has been saved under Adobe RGB gamut.

I'm just getting bit confused, as I got to deliver and print the photos, but now I don't know which one is the one I'm looking at... I guess photoshop produces the closest match to the actual colour, but if I send the photos to someone who has no photoshop, will they all be looking at oversaturated versions??



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Notice the big difference in saturation on the cheek and lips.

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Here is another experiment, converted the target photo into sRGB. Photoshop version is a lot more desaturated, but when viewed under WinXP preview, it looks closer to what appears to the original in photoshop version above.


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This file was saved under sRGB gamut.


Say, if I need to deliver the photo to a client, which version should I use? So if they are all printed out in sRGB, would the results be overly undersaturated? So if I leave them on Adobe RGB, would they be looking at the 'wrong colour' version if they don't have photoshop??
I'm confused...

i know stuff all but i would print one out and then use the one that looks the best to do the rest.

Firefox 2 is not colour managed. You need Firefox 3 for colour management. AFAIK Windows XP needs color applet added to control panel to allow color management in Windows picture and fax viewer

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/usin ... ntrol.mspx

Big Red wrote:i know stuff all but i would print one out and then use the one that looks the best to do the rest.

From past experiences, Adobe RGB looks best on prints. But on monitor viewing, sRGB produces softer skin tones (not so saturated) under the lousy WinXP image viewer...

shakey wrote:Firefox 2 is not colour managed. You need Firefox 3 for colour management. AFAIK Windows XP needs color applet added to control panel to allow color management in Windows picture and fax viewer

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/usin ... ntrol.mspx

I have this colour management applet installed already, doesn't really make a different to me. Or is that I did something wrong?

Yi-P wrote:
Say, if I need to deliver the photo to a client, which version should I use?

Yi-P,

Are you not just looking at the same file in three different applications? Or do you have three versions of the images (ie: three separate files for the images?)

Colour managment is going to be hard when you don't know how the client is going to use them. At least when you send them to get printed the lab tells you what colourspabe, dpi etc... you need to send it.

I had this recently when I went to a clients place to review the images with them. My laptop died so we continued on their pc and the images looking shocking I had to continually remind them that they will look better printed out and to remember what they looked like on my laptop monitor (which is even very different to my Imac monitor!!!)

I believe the same thing re the colourspace... Adobe RGB for print, sRGB for web viewing (but keep in mind some site (smugmug for thumbnails) strip the profile out anyway so it doesn't always matter).

I guess this has not really helped other than try and find out how your client will be viewing them

W00DY

I was just thinking (dangerous I know)
is adobe PDF reader color managed?
if it is, maybe you could always send proof sheets out as PDF files. that way they will all have to use the same color managed viewer
you will still have problems with their monitor calibration, but you would have that no matter what you do
and with a PDF you can put notes about you photos and that they will not look the same as printed if they are not using a calibrated monitor directly in the file as they view the shots