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Model has issues re:Model Release Form

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:14 pm
by devilla101
Hey guys

I've been trying to organise a shoot for a swimwear company. Had everything organised until I showed the model the release form. She refused to sign it because of this wording:

For the images captured on *******, the unrestricted right and permission to copyright and use, re-use,
publish, and republish photographic portraits or pictures of me or in which I may be included intact or in part, composite
or distorted in character or form, without restriction as to changes or transformations in conjunction with my own or a
fictitious name, or reproduction hereof in color or otherwise, made through any and all media now or hereafter known
for illustration, art, promotion, advertising, trade, or any other purpose whatsoever.

I'm pretty sure its a standard clause. Right?

Anyway I've cancelled it since this particular model seem to have trust issues and I can't imagine what she would be like come shooting time.

Opinions/comments?

Re: Model has issues re:Model Release Form

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:17 pm
by big pix
I would have got another model........

Re: Model has issues re:Model Release Form

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 8:37 pm
by Matt. K
I wouldn't sign that crap unless I was being paid a bloody fortune.!!! Why would your model want to sign it? Basically you're saying you could put the elephant mans body under her head and publish world-wide with her name in the caption. Present your model with a fair and decent release and she may be more likely to sign it. Just because she has a great body doesn't mean she doesn't have brains.

Re: Model has issues re:Model Release Form

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 8:56 pm
by xerubus
I'm with Matt on this one. All looked okay until this bit: "in which I may be included intact or in part, composite
or distorted in character or form, without restriction as to changes or transformations in conjunction with my own or a
fictitious name"

Can't remember if there are example releases in the forums, but if not I can dig out the model releases I used to use if you need some guidelines.

Re: Model has issues re:Model Release Form

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:23 pm
by sirhc55
That young lady has not only got her head screwed on the right way around but she said no! Many others would have just signed :|

Re: Model has issues re:Model Release Form

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:05 pm
by devilla101
xerubus wrote:I'm with Matt on this one. All looked okay until this bit: "in which I may be included intact or in part, composite
or distorted in character or form, without restriction as to changes or transformations in conjunction with my own or a
fictitious name"

Can't remember if there are example releases in the forums, but if not I can dig out the model releases I used to use if you need some guidelines.


Hey mate, yeah if you can that would be great.

Anyway the model has been dropped.

Re: Model has issues re:Model Release Form

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:13 pm
by xerubus
take a look at this one from getty images: http://contributors.gettyimages.com/img ... 406_US.pdf

very similar to yours, but the wording is a bit 'nicer' per se. :)

If that doesn't help I'll dig out my files.

cheers

Re: Model has issues re:Model Release Form

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:47 pm
by devilla101
Cool cool thanks mate.

I like the part about 'except pornographic or defamtory' since the model needed a lot of reassurance the shoot is 'G' rated.

As for the first, second para re: use of image I had similar clause and she didn't agree with it. She wanted to dictate and wanted me to seek her permission for the use of images outside my portfolio work.

Anyway im not glad that she was dropped but glad I don't need to worry about it anymore

Re: Model has issues re:Model Release Form

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:18 am
by gstark
I need to check: we had some files available on the old site, but I've not yet pulled them across here.

I know that we've had model releases in the past, but I think that Steve (Killakoala) hosted them on his site. If he did, then a forum search for "model release" should give them to you more quickly than I'll be able to.

Re: Model has issues re:Model Release Form

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:01 am
by michael_
interesting, this is the standard model release in fotobiz, i too wouldnt sign that (time to change my release)

Re: Model has issues re:Model Release Form

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:27 am
by gstark

Re: Model has issues re:Model Release Form

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:39 am
by xerubus
Like this wording in the second one: "with any reasonable retouching or alteration."

I think that's pretty fair.

Re: Model has issues re:Model Release Form

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:00 am
by devilla101
gstark wrote:Ok ...

Here's one


Here's another



Thanks Gary appreciate the link..

Re: Model has issues re:Model Release Form

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:40 am
by gstark
devilla101 wrote:Thanks Gary appreciate the link..


My pleasure, Ron.

I'll see if I can get a set of links for this stuff onto the front page over the weekend.