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Am I the only one that...

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:06 am
by Charlie Chalk
...shoots at a higher ISO one day in darkish enviroments, then goes out the following day in daylight and forgets to change the ISO to something more suitable?

I did it again at the weekend, shot some pictures of the kids in the house (no flash, ISO 640) then went out in the afternoon to take some pictures of the quayside, daylight overcast, idea ISO 200 - but not for me, no sir, good old ISO 640 all the way!

Please tell me I'm not the only one...

CC

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:12 am
by kipper
You're not the only one my friend. I sometimes wish there was an idiot proof way of reminding the user that they have it on the wrong ISO. For instance they have Auto or Manual ISO. If the Auto is that good they could have an advisory option where if the camera thinks you have the wrong ISO it will say on the LCD screen "Advise changing ISO. The one being used appears incorrect.". Of course it'd be annoying for this to pop up all the time so you could have an option to accept, snooze or dismiss. Or something like this. :evil:

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:13 am
by JordanP
you are not the only one - I've done that at least 4 times.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:19 am
by Nnnnsic
I did it a few minutes ago when shooting the box. :lol:

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:21 am
by MHD
yep... my number one most common error...

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 12:07 pm
by xorl
kipper, you're giving me nightmares about seeing clippy reincarnated on the D70: "I think you may have your ISO set too high, would you like me to change it for you? Are you sure you want to take this picture? Really?"
*shudder*. :)

It would be good if the current ISO was displayed on the top panel.. Another one for the wishlist I guess..

Btw if you're not sure what state the camera is in after tweaking all the EV/Flash/WB settings etc, you can do a quick reset (look for the green dots on the body). I find it can be useful after adjusting everything to get the shot I want. Unfortunately it also resets the Quality to Large/Normal, and from memory it also whacks your Custom Optimize settings (sharpness etc..) - not too big a deal if you shoot NEF tho'. The manual lists everything that gets reset (custom functions are untouched). Sometimes its quicker to reset everything to a known state than try to remember/work out everything you changed :) .

Re: Am I the only one that...

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:09 pm
by Gordon
Charlie Chalk wrote:...shoots at a higher ISO one day in darkish enviroments, then goes out the following day in daylight and forgets to change the ISO to something more suitable?
...
Please tell me I'm not the only one...
CC


nope, I've done it too many times, taking astrophotos at night on 640 or 800, then landscapes the next day.
Lately I've become an obsessive ISO checker and have managed to avoid high ISOs in daylight.

Gordon

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:17 am
by Manta
Though I don't usually have wide extremes in my settings, I approach this the same way I approach Photoshop - I "Reset All Tools" after each session. This serves two purposes: 1. I know I'm starting with the same settings each time and 2. If my wife or kids pick up the camera I know everything is set for them to take a general photo without them having to fiddle with too much.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:57 pm
by leek
I'd just conquered the ISO problem and now I've found a new one...

After a couple of weeks of taking mostly cr&p photos and wondering why, I just realised that my metering had been set to centre weighted with an area of 6mm :? Fine for portraits, but not so good for landscapes and nature...

I took many photos of the tall ships yesterday and many photos of birds today and only a few of them came out OK... Now I know why...

Another one for you to all look out for :lol:

PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:01 pm
by BBJ
Nope, LOL i lost a days pics at a ride day at the track for that very reason.
Ok some pics was ok but some weren't, i wiuldn't print them so yeh saved me the work of processing them and putting on web. I make it a rule now to check and double check.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:03 pm
by Greg B
Me too Charlie.

In my view, this is one of the (few) things about the d70 which disappoints me - I would like to see the ISO displayed in the viewfinder.

In Auto ISO mode, which I never use for this very reason, it would have made the mode more usable if the ISO was displayed instead of the flashing thingy which means, the camera has changed the ISO but we're not telling you the number to which it has been changed.

There are not too many shortcomings on the d70, but they stuffed up on this one.

welcome to the club ...

PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:03 pm
by christiand
Hi CC,

I've done exactly the same.
I actually did it the night before the Tall Ships sailing in company.
How stupid is that ?
Oh well, I'm just as bad as and will continue to ...

Regards
CD

PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:18 pm
by marcus
Yep did it on the weekend. And actually spoke to a fellow D70 owner TODAY about the problem. Good news is HE'S DONE IT TOO!!

When your shooting outside its so hard to tell in the display screen that there's anything wrong. If you had a darkroom handy you could possibly look at the monitor and think hmmm something wrong here. But because you basically can't see the thing in daylight you have no idea. Very frustrating.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:21 pm
by sirhc55
I must be the odd one out - has never happened to me :D

PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:22 pm
by gstark
But is it any worse than using film, whereby you have to wait until you see your prints - perhaps weeks later - before you realised that you completely stuffed up?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 4:49 am
by dooda
It's almost as bad because you can't see the noise on the LCD. Nice thing is you didn't just pay the bastard behind the counter for the prints. I've done this and much worse. The other day I was taking pictures of this waterfall. I couldn't get the damn thing from blowing the highlights completely. -1.7 Exp bias and still the same. I went all the way to -5, spot metering and everything before I checked the command dial and saw that my brother had been using it in manual, 1/15 of a second shutter. Oops. Took me 6 shots before I got that one right. A more common prob for me is to leave exp bias on.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:25 am
by MATT
dooda, I ahve similar problem. Exposure bias, though I take few shoots and fully blown. check the biase and it will be like +3.???

I think thats ood I usuall dont chnge it much. Sometimes I feel the camera has mind of its own and sets it to anything.

The other problem I have is the Wife. She has only very basic knowledge of the camera. The other day she took some shots of my girls dress up for school. Only one was in focus- odd I thought- and she complained.

Found I had the lense in fully manual--oops.


Good to see though that everone forgets something sometimes

MATT

PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:19 am
by Hlop
Aw! I see people are changing ISO here! Actually I changed it once to 800 a while ago. But believe me if I'll change ISO settings continously I'll forget to return them back to normal/usual. It applies to any settings :)

PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:42 am
by Mal
I have found that if I can work on my obsessive compolsive disorder a little more then I should always remeber to return the settings back to normal (whatever that is) after each shoot. This has at least stopped me having the wrong ISO setting, as far as other settings go........

PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:22 am
by gstark
Mal,

Mal wrote:I have found that if I can work on my obsessive compolsive disorder a little more


Remember to wash your hands before and after changing the settings, and always be sure to only make those changes in a very securely locked room.

Four locks is good; seven is better. :)

PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:24 am
by stubbsy
gstark wrote:Mal,

Mal wrote:I have found that if I can work on my obsessive compolsive disorder a little more


Remember to wash your hands before and after changing the settings, and always be sure to only make those changes in a very securely locked room.

Four locks is good; seven is better. :)

Gary - wicked, wicked man :lol:

PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:27 am
by gstark
stubbsy wrote:Gary - wicked, wicked man :lol:


Guilty as charged. :)