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While at work yesterday, the account manager from Canon came in for several hours trying to make the 2 cabinets look nice, so we chatted a bit and throughout the many phone calls that he had, he got one from his boss saying that there are some price drops for the DSLR bodies that are "effectively and immediately",

Canon 40D: $1499
Canon 400D: $790

He wrote some other price drops on the list too but I didn't get to see the others, so I don't know which ones they are...

Dontcha just love competition?

Given the rumours regarding a possible upcoming 5D replacement, it would be interesting to know whether there was movement at that station, as it were.

Canon have taken a real hit from Nikon in the past few months ... not only have Nikon finally pulled better camera out of the bag with the D3 and D300, they have also started to assume some of the market share again at the serious end of town. I know of at least one newspaper that has said they are dropping Canon and moving onto Nikon... and they have 40 photographers on staff. That has to hurt Canon. On the other side of the equation though, I feel Canon prices have been too high for too long.

Antsl wrote:I feel Canon prices have been too high for too long.

Have to agree here Ants - here's hoping things will drop to more reasonable price levels.

Antsl wrote: I feel Canon prices have been too high for too long.

Many would say the same about Nikon, especially pro glass prices

marc wrote:

Antsl wrote: I feel Canon prices have been too high for too long.

Many would say the same about Nikon, especially pro glass prices

No pissing contests, please. (besides, that isn't quite the case)

gstark wrote:
No pissing contests, please. (besides, that isn't quite the case)

I'm not pissing about
Merely a statement regarding the prices of pro bodies & glass by BOTH Canon & Nikon.
That's a fact.

I know of at least one newspaper that has said they are dropping Canon and moving onto Nikon... and they have 40 photographers on staff. That has to hurt Canon.

I hardly think it would 'hurt' canon. Maybe if 40 newspapers dropped them with 400 photographers each.

Well there are cases everywhere in the world preferring the D3 for photojournalist than the Canon. And I do think Canon is still number 1 in the world but Nikon is number 1 in Asia, which has the biggest potential market.

My friend who recently came back from Japan said more Nikons than Canon and also more film cameras than digital.

Got a email from Quality camera sales

40D $1349.00

400D $729.00

while stock lasts

So want going to replace the 40D

TonyT wrote:So want going to replace the 40D

Nothing for a while.

Given that these are Australian stock and you get 1 year warranty, they are very good prices..

TonyT wrote:Got a email from Quality camera sales

40D $1349.00

400D $729.00

while stock lasts

So want going to replace the 40D

We have them for 1359 and 749 respectively.

I'm getting a 40D soon.

A couple of months back Poon mentioned that the 40D was not selling well.

These prices are very keen, and I think a reaction to the success that the D40 and D300 are seeing in the market. The D40 remains the top selling DSLR in the world.

I'm also wondering if price reductions of this magnitude - I need to see if HK prices will be reducing as a result - might be indicative of imminent new models?

gstark wrote:A couple of months back Poon mentioned that the 40D was not selling well.

These prices are very keen, and I think a reaction to the success that the D40 and D300 are seeing in the market. The D40 remains the top selling DSLR in the world.

I'm also wondering if price reductions of this magnitude - I need to see if HK prices will be reducing as a result - might be indicative of imminent new models?

Is it really, the D40/D40x/D60 is the top selling DSLR? I'm positive that the 400D holds that position...

Well the 450D should be available in about two weeks but those two models that dropped in pricing would still be present in the model lineup, so I don't know, and the successor to the 5D (which SO many of you are waiting for) is going to be around Olympics or Photokina time, we'll see if the Canon rep lies.

And I always liked the 40D, don't know why it wouldn't sell well, and it's not even close in specs to the 400D... well I guess I can blame the ignorant first time buyers getting bombarded with positive information to buy the 400D.

But should be something saucey with Nikon's D80 successor.

Grev wrote:

gstark wrote:A couple of months back Poon mentioned that the 40D was not selling well.

These prices are very keen, and I think a reaction to the success that the D40 and D300 are seeing in the market. The D40 remains the top selling DSLR in the world.

I'm also wondering if price reductions of this magnitude - I need to see if HK prices will be reducing as a result - might be indicative of imminent new models?

Is it really, the D40/D40x/D60 is the top selling DSLR? I'm positive that the 400D holds that position...

In the world market? I believe it's the D40/D40x. It's just been walking out of the stores in most world markets. It's been the hottest camera - DSLR or PHD - in Asia for months on end. Hell, even Nikon Oz are getting into marketing, with a TV ad for the D60 being screened in Oz now.

Well the 450D should be available in about two weeks but those two models that dropped in pricing would still be present in the model lineup, so I don't know, and the successor to the 5D (which SO many of you are waiting for) is going to be around Olympics or Photokina time, we'll see if the Canon rep lies.

I don't see the 5D replacement as being announced for the Olympics. It's not targeted at the sports/pj market. Maybe a MkIIIMkII ?

And I always liked the 40D, don't know why it wouldn't sell well, and it's not even close in specs to the 400D... well I guess I can blame the ignorant first time buyers getting bombarded with positive information to buy the 400D.

I don't think that the 400D is the 40D's problem. I think it's the absence of it being a really significant upgrade from the 30D that's at issue. A lot of people have the 30D, and don't see any reason to upgrade along that path. 5D? sure. 40D? Why?

gstark wrote:I don't see the 5D replacement as being announced for the Olympics. It's not targeted at the sports/pj market. Maybe a MkIIIMkII ?

I don't think that the 400D is the 40D's problem. I think it's the absence of it being a really significant upgrade from the 30D that's at issue. A lot of people have the 30D, and don't see any reason to upgrade along that path. 5D? sure. 40D? Why?

Right, I always forget about the 5D successor won't be a sports camera. Or I guess Canon will just be releasing a 1D3 with ALL the AF problems fixed...

And yes, Canon has always done minor tweaks to their lower end models and then release it as a new camera, maybe their way of doing things has finally caught up to them, that is "upgrading" the models without really upgrading them. Although the 40D does have sensor cleaning, bigger screen, better AF and slightly more megapixels compared to the 30D.

Although the most shocking of all has to be the 30D as an upgrade to the 20D... It's the same freaking camera...

Grev wrote:Although the most shocking of all has to be the 30D as an upgrade to the 20D... It's the same freaking camera...

You don't think a change in the badge qualifies as an upgrade?

Look at the D40x/D60.

Well actually I disliked it when they released the D60, but then I tried out the high iso noise since it's still the D200/D80's ccd chip, and the EXPEED processor nonsense did do pretty well to the noise issue.

I guess the 20d/30d case is an anomaly, I thought Canon had gone insane. BTW, had gone to Sony video camera training at the Mercure hotel, their BIONZ and EXMOR (or something) processor is kind of... I guess my intuitive feeling is that they got some of the parts from Nikon. Because one of their new video camera is using a 3 inch 918000 dots LCD screen afterall...

Grev wrote:BTW, had gone to Sony video camera training at the Mercure hotel, their BIONZ and EXMOR (or something) processor is kind of... I guess my intuitive feeling is that they got some of the parts from Nikon. Because one of their new video camera is using a 3 inch 918000 dots LCD screen afterall...

Leigh went to a Sony Dog and Pony on Monday. He came away amazed.

At the total absence of any technical acumen of the people running the event. They felt that attendees needed a map of the three different display areas, so they would know what was where. Three stands, in the one room. I think even Stevie Wonder would not have too many issues in that setting.

I don't think that the 400D is the 40D's problem. I think it's the absence of it being a really significant upgrade from the 30D that's at issue. A lot of people have the 30D, and don't see any reason to upgrade along that path. 5D? sure. 40D? Why?

Yeah I have to agree with this statement. For a while I was tempted to upgrade to a 40D. But after playing around with my brothers one and comparing ISO noise and some 'nice' featues, I figured it wasn't worth spending $1400. Im going to sit tight and see what a new model 5D will bring. Hopefully its so good that the old 5D will come down significantly in price that I can buy that one (wishful thinking)

devilla101 wrote:Hopefully its so good that the old 5D will come down significantly in price that I can buy that one (wishful thinking)

Ron,

Sounds fairly viable to me.

gstark wrote:I think it's the absence of it being a really significant upgrade from the 30D that's at issue.

I thought the 40D was a big jump over the 30D. I was/am a 10D owner, and the 20D and the 30D I didn't see as useful upgrades, but the 40D was a significant jump over the 30D.

Now, I probably wouldn't have upgraded from a 30D to a 40D, but single increment upgrades are a bit ridiculous, IMHO.

Now, I probably wouldn't have upgraded from a 30D to a 40D, but single increment upgrades are a bit ridiculous, IMHO.

Well it depends on how you use the camera and weighing if those new features are important to you.

One thing I really liked about the 40D was that it felt great holding it. My pinky finger was no longer hanging catching air time. It was actually gripping the 40D.

Hopefully the price drops from Canon would encourage more sales but time will tell.

devilla101 wrote:Im going to sit tight and see what a new model 5D will bring. Hopefully its so good that the old 5D will come down significantly in price that I can buy that one (wishful thinking)

I'm wishing the same thing. The price in the US is heading south nicely...

gstark wrote:

Grev wrote:BTW, had gone to Sony video camera training at the Mercure hotel, their BIONZ and EXMOR (or something) processor is kind of... I guess my intuitive feeling is that they got some of the parts from Nikon. Because one of their new video camera is using a 3 inch 918000 dots LCD screen afterall...

Leigh went to a Sony Dog and Pony on Monday. He came away amazed.

At the total absence of any technical acumen of the people running the event. They felt that attendees needed a map of the three different display areas, so they would know what was where. Three stands, in the one room. I think even Stevie Wonder would not have too many issues in that setting.

The irony is that Sony is the best video camera maker now, and their Vegas Pro 8 software is amazing, if not better than the Mac's Final Cut Studio.

And since I predict them to be number 3 in DSLR this year (over shadowing Olympus) and they won the Blu-ray war, they're in very good shape.

ANYWAY, I'd like see what price I can get the 40D for at my workplace...

We were assured by the regional manager from Canon that the 5D won't be replaced but they are offering a free Canon M80 for every 5D or the 5d, 24-105 kit bought.

And then those RUMOURS of 22nd March announcements... which should be today or yesterday...

gstark wrote:

devilla101 wrote:Hopefully its so good that the old 5D will come down significantly in price that I can buy that one (wishful thinking)

Ron,

Sounds fairly viable to me.

Can't wait to buy Canon 5D body but don't want to pay extra. Do you think it is worth waiting till 5D II anouncement?

$2449 at d-d-photographics.com sounds fair to me. However in HK 5D is just around AU$2000 now
http://www.ygdragon.net/index.php?page= ... aprice.htm

Can't wait to buy Canon 5D body but don't want to pay extra. Do you think it is worth waiting till 5D II anouncement?

If you need a camera now the 5D will not disappoint you! At its current price for full frame goodness and excellent high ISO handling it is a steal! At the moment all the rumors relating to the 5D II are just that. For me I'm going to wait and see what will eventuate down the track. But in your situation if you need a camera now, get one. If you can wait then it could be long or short wait.

Could have picked up a new 40D body from camera house brisbane city on thursday for $1299 (list price), seems like canon.au is starting to listen.

ozimax wrote:

Antsl wrote:I feel Canon prices have been too high for too long.

Wait till you see how Nikon rip us off. Good on you guys for having a price adjustment. now come on nikon!

As usual with this stuff there are now oddities... a 450D is ~$1300 street retail, a 40D is ~$1400, but you can buy the 40D right now. My coworker looks likely to buy a 40D as her first DSLR... I gotta upgrade