Using E2 sensor fluid on a non ITO sensor

Have your say on issues related to using a DSLR camera.

Moderator: Moderators

Forum rules
Please ensure that you have a meaningful location included in your profile. Please refer to the FAQ for details of what "meaningful" is.

Using E2 sensor fluid on a non ITO sensor

Postby aim54x on Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:37 pm

Hey all,

I have a D300 (needs E2 fluid) and a S5 Pro (Photosolutions website recommends Eclipse) and have read that E2 an substitute normal Eclipse. Is this true? It seems logical. I just want to be sure before I go out and buy a bottle of Eclipse as well.

Cheers
Cameron
Cameron
Nikon F/Nikon 1 | Hasselblad V/XPAN| Leica M/LTM |Sony α/FE/E/Maxxum/M42
Wishlist Nikkor 24/85 f/1.4| Fuji Natura Black
Scout-Images | Flickr | 365Project
User avatar
aim54x
Senior Member
 
Posts: 7305
Joined: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:13 pm
Location: Penshurst, Sydney

Re: Using E2 sensor fluid on a non ITO sensor

Postby who on Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:26 am

Any luck on an answer?
Old D200+extras
who
Senior Member
 
Posts: 543
Joined: Mon Mar 26, 2007 4:38 pm
Location: Ulverstone, TAS

Re: Using E2 sensor fluid on a non ITO sensor

Postby fozzie on Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:46 am

Cameron,

Please refer to the following website, for what product is to be used with which camera body:

http://www.copperhillimages.com/shoppin ... D#MOREINFO

aim54x wrote:Hey all,

I have a D300 (needs E2 fluid) and a S5 Pro (Photosolutions website recommends Eclipse) and have read that E2 an substitute normal Eclipse. Is this true? It seems logical. I just want to be sure before I go out and buy a bottle of Eclipse as well.

Cheers
Cameron


fozzie
User avatar
fozzie
Key Member
 
Posts: 2806
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:19 pm
Location: AUADA : Nikon D3/D2x - JPG Shooter

Re: Using E2 sensor fluid on a non ITO sensor

Postby ATJ on Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:48 am

fozzie wrote:Please refer to the following website, for what product is to be used with which camera body:

http://www.copperhillimages.com/shoppin ... D#MOREINFO

Um... I think he already knew this from the manufacturer's website. What he's asking is if E2 CAN be used on the s5 Pro even though Eclipse is recommended.

Cameron,

I don't know the answer to the question, but I would assume that E2 would be OK. It is my understanding that E2 was designed because normal Eclipse would damage Tin Oxide sensors. It seems logical that E2 would be "less damaging" to non Tin Oxide sensors. Of course, I wouldn't recommend you go on my assumptions.

Why not email Photosol and ask them and also check if the guarantee still stands?
User avatar
ATJ
Senior Member
 
Posts: 3982
Joined: Fri Feb 18, 2005 10:44 am
Location: Blue Mountains, NSW

Re: Using E2 sensor fluid on a non ITO sensor

Postby Mr Darcy on Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:37 am

As we have a D70s and a D200 in the house, I really should have both E2 and Eclipse, but being a cheapskate, I only have E2. So far my D200 hasn't fallen apart. Nor has the sensor clouded over. From what I have read, the E2 is "gentler", whatever that means in this context, and shouldn't be a problem, but I too would be interested in a definitive answer to the question.

Problem is; can you trust an answer of "you must use the correct solution" from the suppliers, given that this would mean they sell more product? On the other hand, I would trust an answer of "If in doubt use E2" as that would mean reduced sales. Paradoxically, I would be more likely to buy an extra bottle in that case as I would want to support an honest supplier. :?
Greg
It's easy to be good... when there is nothing else to do
User avatar
Mr Darcy
Senior Member
 
Posts: 3414
Joined: Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:35 pm
Location: The somewhat singed and blackened Blue Mountains

Re: Using E2 sensor fluid on a non ITO sensor

Postby aim54x on Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:31 am

THanks for the replies, I am emailing PhotoSol now to see what they say.
Cameron
Nikon F/Nikon 1 | Hasselblad V/XPAN| Leica M/LTM |Sony α/FE/E/Maxxum/M42
Wishlist Nikkor 24/85 f/1.4| Fuji Natura Black
Scout-Images | Flickr | 365Project
User avatar
aim54x
Senior Member
 
Posts: 7305
Joined: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:13 pm
Location: Penshurst, Sydney

Re: Using E2 sensor fluid on a non ITO sensor

Postby aim54x on Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:29 pm

I got a reply to my email!


You are correct. E2 will work on all cameras.
Joel PSI

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:37:09 +1100, Cameron K. Fong wrote
> Hi,
>
> I use a Nikon D300 as my main camera and also use a Fujifilm
> Finepix S5 Pro. On your website E2 is recommended for the D300 and
> Eclipse is recommended for the S5 Pro. After a bit of reading around,
> it appears that the E2 fluid is a gentler cleaning fluid so
> theoretically should be able to be used with non ITO sensors. Is
> this correct? Will it be ok to clean my S5 Pro with E2 fluid?
>
> Cheers
> Cameron
Cameron
Nikon F/Nikon 1 | Hasselblad V/XPAN| Leica M/LTM |Sony α/FE/E/Maxxum/M42
Wishlist Nikkor 24/85 f/1.4| Fuji Natura Black
Scout-Images | Flickr | 365Project
User avatar
aim54x
Senior Member
 
Posts: 7305
Joined: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:13 pm
Location: Penshurst, Sydney

Re: Using E2 sensor fluid on a non ITO sensor

Postby Big Red on Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:52 am

i did read that E2 can be used in place of eclipse somewhere on their website just before i bought mine the other day.

i need Eclipse for the *istDs and K100D and E2 for the K10D and K20D
User avatar
Big Red
Senior Member
 
Posts: 2520
Joined: Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:40 pm
Location: Jacobs Well Qld ... mossie capital of the world

Re: Using E2 sensor fluid on a non ITO sensor

Postby aim54x on Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:41 pm

Big Red wrote:i did read that E2 can be used in place of eclipse somewhere on their website just before i bought mine the other day.

i need Eclipse for the *istDs and K100D and E2 for the K10D and K20D


From the email reply I got from PhotoSol, just use E2 for all of them!
Cameron
Nikon F/Nikon 1 | Hasselblad V/XPAN| Leica M/LTM |Sony α/FE/E/Maxxum/M42
Wishlist Nikkor 24/85 f/1.4| Fuji Natura Black
Scout-Images | Flickr | 365Project
User avatar
aim54x
Senior Member
 
Posts: 7305
Joined: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:13 pm
Location: Penshurst, Sydney

Re: Using E2 sensor fluid on a non ITO sensor

Postby Mr Darcy on Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:48 am

This is probably what Big Red saw:
Note: E2™ may be used with conventional CMOS / CCD sensors.

found at http://www.photosol.com/eclipse_e2product.htm
Greg
It's easy to be good... when there is nothing else to do
User avatar
Mr Darcy
Senior Member
 
Posts: 3414
Joined: Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:35 pm
Location: The somewhat singed and blackened Blue Mountains

Re: Using E2 sensor fluid on a non ITO sensor

Postby seeto.centric on Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:42 am

Cameron & anyone else who needs Eclipse fluid.. i've got nearly a whole bottle left. its hardly used and im struggling to find a use for it. its hardly effective for cleaning CPU/GPU's so its just sitting on my shelf.

anyone who needs it is welcome to have it, i guess it could be a bottle that can be passed around as need arises?

-julian
User avatar
seeto.centric
Member
 
Posts: 488
Joined: Fri Jun 09, 2006 12:33 pm
Location: Baulkham Hills/2153. Sydney

Re: Using E2 sensor fluid on a non ITO sensor

Postby aim54x on Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:17 am

I still have not cracked open my bottle of E2, or even knocked the edges off that spatula that Matt made for me (thanks Matt K.) I think one bottle of E2 will last a long time, so yeah as above, anyone in my area who needs a few drops then let me know.
Cameron
Nikon F/Nikon 1 | Hasselblad V/XPAN| Leica M/LTM |Sony α/FE/E/Maxxum/M42
Wishlist Nikkor 24/85 f/1.4| Fuji Natura Black
Scout-Images | Flickr | 365Project
User avatar
aim54x
Senior Member
 
Posts: 7305
Joined: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:13 pm
Location: Penshurst, Sydney


Return to General Discussion