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by **MHD** on Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:48 pm

I have other lenses in mind but I am curious as to what people think about the Nikkor 60/2.8 vrs the 105 f/2.8 Macros?

And.. could people tell me why I should not buy the 105 sigma over the 105 Nikkor

EDIT: Oh my lordy!
That will teach me to post with a few bubblies under my belt!

I wanted to compare Nikkor 60 vrs Sigma 105...

by **Greg B** on Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:52 pm

Scott, that is conceivably the most confusing poll question I have seen.

by **birddog114** on Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:52 pm

MHD wrote:I have other lenses in mind but I am curious as to what people think about the Nikkor 60/2.8 vrs the 105 f/2.8 Macros?

And.. could people tell me why I should not buy the 105 sigma over the 105 Nikkor

The Nikon 60/2.8 and 105/2.8 are two difference focal lenght, and they can't be compared to each other, each of them has the difference use in distance mainly, they're superb micro lenses.
I choose Nikon 105 cos:
Because the Nikon 105 is in the gold box with gold trim and the Sigma is in black and red box with platinum band. :lol:

by **kipper** on Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:52 pm

I'm a Nikkor man. Actually not sure yet what I will do when I have the funds to get the macro lenses of my choice.

At the moment it's Nikkor 60mm and Nikkor 105mm or the Sigma 150mm. However I think the Sigma 150mm is more expensive then the Nikkor 105mm. So that'd probably sway me away from teh Sigma.

by **robw25** on Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:54 pm

i have a nikkon 60mm ( vrs??? ) and it's a beauty .... would recommend it

cheers rob

by **Greg B** on Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:56 pm

kipper, that is precisely my quandry at the moment.

The Sigma 150 is $900, the Nikkor 105 is $750.

The Sigma is effectively a 225mm f2.8 lens - not bad.

However, I have almost decided for my choice, the Nikkor 105. And not only because of the box as per Birdy's post.

MHD, I reckon the 60 is just too short.
(Edit: Sorry Rob, not disagreeing with you, I just want to be able to get back a bit further from the subject)

by **birddog114** on Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:59 pm

Mostly Nikon micro lenses are with "full metal jacket" in comparison with Sigma or Tamron with 80% of plastic, I showed CD the Nikon 200 micro at the VR club meet 4:00am on Saturday with few tested shots.

by **MHD** on Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:01 pm

is the nikkor micro 60 a full metal jacket>
the 105 nikkor?

Anyone bringing either of these two to the caves next weekend?

by **MHD** on Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:03 pm

I think the 200 is somewhat out of my range

by **birddog114** on Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:10 pm

MHD wrote:is the nikkor micro 60 a full metal jacket>
the 105 nikkor?

Anyone bringing either of these two to the caves next weekend?

Yes, the 60 micro is in my hand and it's solid same as the 105 micro..
Compare the built of the Tamron 90/ 180 or Sig 105/150/180, it's far beyond.

by **Onyx** on Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:01 am

In all honesty, I think the Micro Nikkor 60 is an overpriced and overbuilt 50mm. It has basically the same field of view/focal length as the 50 primes, only focuses closer (granted, much closer). All of HKSupplies' product shots were taken with the 60 Micro, before I came along that is... and the proprietors of the said company have been thrilled with the performance and images achieved (they shoot jpegs at small & basic size/compression).

by **birddog114** on Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:04 am

Onyx wrote:In all honesty, I think the Micro Nikkor 60 is an overpriced and overbuilt 50mm. It has basically the same field of view/focal length as the 50 primes, only focuses closer (granted, much closer). All of HKSupplies' product shots were taken with the 60 Micro, before I came along that is... and the proprietors of the said company have been thrilled with the performance and images achieved (they shoot jpegs at small & basic size/compression).

But the 60mm is for short distance or closed subject, in the otherhand the 105 or 200 can do in far distance with bug, flies or other purposes.

by **Onyx** on Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:39 am

Birddog114 wrote:But the 60mm is for short distance or closed subject, in the otherhand the 105 or 200 can do in far distance with bug, flies or other purposes.

My point was, 90% of what the 60 Micro was intended to do, can be done with a much cheaper 50 standard prime.

by **birddog114** on Mon Mar 14, 2005 7:10 am

Onyx wrote:
Birddog114 wrote:But the 60mm is for short distance or closed subject, in the otherhand the 105 or 200 can do in far distance with bug, flies or other purposes.

My point was, 90% of what the 60 Micro was intended to do, can be done with a much cheaper 50 standard prime.

Onyx,
You're still awake :shock:

is it a day off for you today in HKG?

by **Onyx** on Mon Mar 14, 2005 7:42 am

Me being awake at... oh, it's now 4:40am, has something to do with an incident regarding being detained at the China/HK border. Not me, "him". :shock:

by **Glen** on Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:56 am

Chi, tell us more about this "incedent" :wink:

by **birddog114** on Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:58 am

Glen wrote:Chi, tell us more about this "incedent"

perhaps Onyx tried "to smuggle" a young Chinese lady across the border :lol:

you know what's the young man like :wink:

by **kipper** on Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:03 am

I think when I first got my 50mm 1.4 I was using it to do some closeup work. It's fab for it.

by **Greg B** on Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:09 am

Although I have heard that there are women in HK too....

by **birddog114** on Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:20 am

Greg B wrote:Although I have heard that there are women in HK too....

GregB,
No "young women" in HKG is suitable for Onyx, in mainland China is lot better :lol:

by **Glen** on Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:29 am

Maybe Onyx brings back a bride

by **birddog114** on Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:31 am

Glen wrote:Maybe Onyx brings back a bride

Spot on! that what we discussed with him prior he left for HKG :lol:

by **Glen** on Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:34 am

Birddog, please point out to Onyx it would be most useful to other members if she also was a Nikon employee :wink:

by **birddog114** on Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:38 am

Glen wrote:Birddog, please point out to Onyx it would be most useful to other members if she also was a Nikon employee

hehehe,
I think so, It's great! if she works in one of the Nikon Factories in China :lol:

by **sirhc55** on Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:41 am

Sounds like a Chinese friend of mine. He lived with a Chinese lady, here in Sydney. He went to HK on his own to see family and when he returned he had another Chinese lady with him. Took her home and introduced her to his Sydney lady as his wife :roll:

The Sydney lady promptly left him and decided to go back to HK - in doing so she used her Amex to the tune of $15,000 which was in his name - touche and ouch :wink:

by **Glen** on Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:48 am

Interesting life your friend leads :wink:

by **sirhc55** on Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:56 am

Glen wrote:Interesting life your friend leads

Indeed he did Glen. Without naming names, he owned around 15 houses in Sydney and was part owner of a computer production facility in HK.

In Sydney he worked, along with me for a company that sold a certain computer that he had sourced. Down the track the company found out that he had made massive profits from sourcing the computer from his own HK facility - he was fired and disappeared. I met up with him in HK a few years later and had one of the best lunches I have ever had - he was a real character.

by **Onyx** on Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:39 pm

Should I attempt to get this thread back on track or go with the flow?!

What Chris mentioned isn't too different from what I observed initially setting foot in China. At the immigration border, there were a huge bunch of women seemingly waiting for their pop star idol (all dressed slutily and provocatively)- but it was explained to me that they were waiting for their 'husbands'. Each was carrying a sign with a nametag. Mail order brides awaiting collection...

Apparently polygamy is still practised in parts of asia and not too uncommon - in fact, I have an uncle that has two wives in two cities. They both know of the other but that's as far as they take things...

by **birddog114** on Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:43 pm

Onyx wrote:Should I attempt to get this thread back on track or go with the flow?!

What Chris mentioned isn't too different from what I observed initially setting foot in China. At the immigration border, there were a huge bunch of women seemingly waiting for their pop star idol (all dressed slutily and provocatively)- but it was explained to me that they were waiting for their 'husbands'. Each was carrying a sign with a nametag. Mail order brides awaiting collection...

Apparently polygamy is still practised in parts of asia and not too uncommon - in fact, I have an uncle that has two wives in two cities. They both know of the other but that's as far as they take things...

So finally you've got one, haven't you? Take the pic of her and show it to your friends back home :lol:

by **bago100** on Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:31 pm

Hi Onyx

Lucky you spending all this time in Hong Kong!

Apart from your D70 forum members often conjectured women troubles, can you please explain what you mean by your signature

"You think you're rich until you set foot in Shenzhen"

line?

I visited Shenzen, alas only for a day, last July and must have clearly missed something. Mind you a cappucino at the hotel (name forgotten) opposite the Shenzen Railway Station cost A$10 each. Most expensive cup of coffee I've ever had. :shock:

Did you get caught buying a coffee at the same hotel, hence your signature quote?

Cheers

Graham

by **Onyx** on Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:27 pm

bago, my sigs rarely make sense - even to me. I got the Shenzhen line from here: http://www.chinahighlights.com/shenzhen/

The full saying is,

"You think you're brave until you go to Manchuria, you think you're well read until you reach Beijing and you think you're rich until you set foot in Shenzhen"

Take from that what you will.

by **Finno** on Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:44 pm

Ive been there. First porche I saw in China. Says it all really.

by **gstark** on Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:35 pm

bago100 wrote: Mind you a cappucino at the hotel (name forgotten) opposite the Shenzen Railway Station cost A$10 each. Most expensive cup of coffee I've ever had.

$10?

Ptui!!!

Try St Marks Square, in Venice, September 2001. Due cappuccini: ITL31000.

That's about PP15.50 each!

by **Glen** on Tue Mar 15, 2005 1:26 am

Onyx, tell us more about the uncle with two wives :wink:

by **bago100** on Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:48 pm

gstark wrote:
bago100 wrote: Mind you a cappucino at the hotel (name forgotten) opposite the Shenzen Railway Station cost A$10 each. Most expensive cup of coffee I've ever had.

$10?

Ptui!!!

Try St Marks Square, in Venice, September 2001. Due cappuccini: ITL31000.

That's about PP15.50 each!

Gary
Ouch - now that's expensive!
You win!!!!

by **bago100** on Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:52 pm

Onyx wrote:bago, my sigs rarely make sense - even to me. I got the Shenzhen line from here: http://www.chinahighlights.com/shenzhen/

The full saying is,

"You think you're brave until you go to Manchuria, you think you're well read until you reach Beijing and you think you're rich until you set foot in Shenzhen"

Take from that what you will.

Thanks Onyx
That's an excellent URL for China - have bookmarked it
The signs in Shenzen didn't make a lot of sense to me either, come to think of it.
Cheers
Graham

by **the foto fanatic** on Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:00 pm

gstark wrote:
bago100 wrote: Mind you a cappucino at the hotel (name forgotten) opposite the Shenzen Railway Station cost A$10 each. Most expensive cup of coffee I've ever had.

$10?

Ptui!!!

Try St Marks Square, in Venice, September 2001. Due cappuccini: ITL31000.

That's about PP15.50 each!

1981 - Hong Kong titty bar at 3 o'clock (in the afternoon, mind you!): $30 for 3 stubbies! Ripped off properly. Then, bashed by wife upon return to hotel when I stupidly admitted folly. What a trip! :lol: