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As I am a nikon user isnt this(su800) cheaper and has mor IQ than Pocket Wizard??

inmotion wrote:As I am a nikon user isnt this(su800) cheaper and has mor IQ than Pocket Wizard??

The Nikon SU-800 is a great device to use with Nikon flashes SB-600, SB-800, SB-900

It allows you to control up to 3 channels of Nikon flash in TTL mode.

It's very much line of sight though and only works within a few meters

Well, the CLS system is certainly much easier to use, and allows you to control the strength of each group from the controller... But you need to have one of the capable flashes - SB600, SB800 or SB900. As leek mentions, you also have a limited range and reliability - if it is outdoors in bright sunshine, it can be a bit hit and miss.

The pocket wizards are expensive, and you need to set the levels manually, however they are completely, utterly and entirely reliable. I don't think I have ever had a misfire and the range is ludicrous on them. You can also use any manual flash with them (as long as they have a sync socket or you use an adapter) - I bought a SB24 off ebay for under $100 that works perfectly with the PWs.

the issue is range and reliability not IQ. the su800 is awesome for indoor work but venture outside and it struggles a little. cybersyncs are the way to go imo. less than half the price of PW's, just as reliable and much smaller.

losfp wrote:they are completely, utterly and entirely reliable.

But do they work?

ozimax wrote:

losfp wrote:they are completely, utterly and entirely reliable.

But do they work?

THAT unfortunately is dependent on the skill (or lack thereof) of the operator D'oh!

Well I love my SU-800. Yes line of sight only, but read the Joe Mc Nally book "The Hot Shoe Diaries" and learn how he is able to bend the light by using an additional off camera flash cord.

HI Guys ,thanks for the feedback I Just realised that I hav a Skyport trigger from my studio Strobe set and I should be able to get universal triggers to suit the strobes .Any suggestions of a sorce--cheers jim

I've only just bought a su800 and haven't had time to do much testing, but was suprised to find that it fired a sb900 set up behind me. It was very close to the camera, but well out of the line of sight.

Bob,

This is not surprising: line of sight isn't just restricted to direct line of sight. The IR signal can often be bounced of walls or the ceiling.

My video projector is located behind me and above my head in my lounge room. I cannot recall the last time that I pointed its control directly at the projector; I always just point it straight ahead, relying upon reflection from the wall in front of me to transmit the signal back to the projector.

I would presume that you experienced a similar reflection.

correct gary which is why indoors i find even no line of sight is fine as long as there's lots of surfaces to bounce off. where it gets tricky is outdoors.

ill be gettinging one of these but the nikon version. TTL without having line of sight