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70-200 vignetting on FX

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:44 pm
by glamy
Hi all,
I only have a slim type filter on the lens and even at f13 like on this picture, vignetting is still there... I know how to get rid of it, but still... Just a bit of info (maybe old info)
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Re: 70-200 vignetting on FX

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:48 pm
by Mr Darcy
Is this the old or the new 70-200?
It was an acknowledged issue with the old one. Haven't heard of it with the new one yet.

Re: 70-200 vignetting on FX

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:53 pm
by Chaase
Have you tried lens correction inside Lightroom. My 70-200 f2.8 USM II Vignettes allot by LR corrects it brilliantly.

Re: 70-200 vignetting on FX

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:12 pm
by stubbsy
If it's the VR I as opposed to the VR II then that's normal - I get it on mine as well.

Re: 70-200 vignetting on FX

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:43 pm
by glamy
Sorry, this is the VRII. I can correct it as I said but I did not expect so much vignetting. On the other hand it is very sharp and the focus is amazingly quick. I use it much more on the D3s than I used to on the D2x.

Re: 70-200 vignetting on FX

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:34 pm
by surenj
Would you consider it unusual that a top level lens would vignette on a FF?

Re: 70-200 vignetting on FX

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:23 pm
by aim54x
surenj wrote:Would you consider it unusual that a top level lens would vignette on a FF?


We all have been spoilt by using FX glass on DX cameras since digital arrived. It is not abnormal for a FX lens to vignette on a FX body, even back in film days.

Re: 70-200 vignetting on FX

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:22 am
by PiroStitch
surenj wrote:Would you consider it unusual that a top level lens would vignette on a FF?


Yes. Even a $10k USD Noctilux will still vignette on a FF camera (without the aid of software correction).

Re: 70-200 vignetting on FX

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:24 pm
by surenj
Wonder what people used to do about this during film days... Avoid stopping down?

Re: 70-200 vignetting on FX

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:58 pm
by Mr Darcy
surenj wrote:Wonder what people used to do about this during film days... Avoid stopping down?


Crop.
Dodge & Burn.
Declare it a feature (most common)

Re: 70-200 vignetting on FX

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:13 pm
by surenj
Thanks Greg.

Mr Darcy wrote:Dodge & Burn.

Would it to be tough to do all 4 sides equally?

Re: 70-200 vignetting on FX

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:34 pm
by Mr Darcy
Not sure In my film days I always opted for option 1 or 3.
SO much so that to this day I am still not certain which is which.
But I suspect it would not be too hard given a little practice.

Re: 70-200 vignetting on FX

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:45 pm
by Murray Foote
surenj wrote:Wonder what people used to do about this during film days... Avoid stopping down?

That would accentuate the vignette. Perhaps you meant to say "avoid shooting wide open".

Re: 70-200 vignetting on FX

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:09 pm
by Murray Foote
surenj wrote:
Mr Darcy wrote:Dodge & Burn.

Would it to be tough to do all 4 sides equally?

If you were serious about that and printing a negative, you would have got a rectangle of light black cardboard and cut a hole in it of the right shape to apply more light to the centre, thus burn the centre in and make it darker, moving the tool up and down to obtain a correct tonal gradient to the adjustment. If you were printing a slide (eg to Cibachrome), you would have use a rounded piece of cardboard on a wire to reduce light in the centre, thus dodge it and make it darker, moving the tool up and down as above.

In Photoshop we have dodge and burn tools and since digital imaging is a positive-to-positive process, dodging should make the image darker and burning should make the image lighter. It's not because the early designers of Photoshop were thinking back-to-front in black & white terms, and it's really SO WRONG.

(p.s "light black cardboard means black cardboard that is not heavy and not in the bizarre Epson definition that light black is a shade of grey).

Re: 70-200 vignetting on FX

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:04 pm
by glamy
aim54x wrote:
surenj wrote:Would you consider it unusual that a top level lens would vignette on a FF?


We all have been spoilt by using FX glass on DX cameras since digital arrived. It is not abnormal for a FX lens to vignette on a FX body, even back in film days.

I have never had a proper camera until digital came, hence my maybe unrealistic expectations...

Re: 70-200 vignetting on FX

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:20 pm
by aim54x
Mr Darcy wrote:Crop.
Dodge & Burn.
Declare it a feature (most common)


:biglaugh: :biglaugh: :agree:

It is amazing what you can do in a darkroom....