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Kodak's moment

PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:42 pm
by gstark
An interesting article from the LA Times.

Re: Kodak's moment

PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:57 pm
by Reschsmooth
gstark wrote:An interesting article from the LA Times.


Interesting that Kodak stopped producing film yet Fuji, if I am correct, re-released Velvia 50 a couple of years ago.

From where will I get my Tri-X and HC-110?

Re: Kodak's moment

PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:01 pm
by aim54x
Its and interesting read..and it sends a shiver down my spine as you come to realise just how quickly things can change for even such a large and successful company

Re: Kodak's moment

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:40 pm
by Matt. K
KODAK just didn't believe what was happening....Like Polaroid, they fell asleep at the wheel and now suffer the consequences. "Digital photography will never take off!"....One website puts the number of different digital camera models so far at over 1700! To survive in a market like that you need 2 things...innovation and quality. Just look at Olympus and Fuji to see how leadership can sink you or keep you afloat.

Re: Kodak's moment

PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:34 am
by Steffen
Actually, they were among the pioneers of digital photography and were until not too long ago a leading sensor maker. Then they somehow dropped the ball (although in the field of scientific and research grade sensors Kodak were very recently still a major player, alongside Sony) and seemingly left the field to others. I'm not quite sure what happened, but to me it doesn't look like they've missed the "digital revolution". Maybe they gambled on some big R$D investments and lost out, who knows. They seem to be as close to the brink as Apple in 1997, not sure what can save them now…

Cheers
Steffen.

Re: Kodak's moment

PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:49 am
by aim54x
Reschsmooth wrote:Interesting that Kodak stopped producing film yet Fuji, if I am correct, re-released Velvia 50 a couple of years ago.

From where will I get my Tri-X and HC-110?


But you forget the films that Fuji has killed off.....Neopan SS, Neopan 1600, Astia, Sensia, Reala, PRO800.....

I guess you will have to swap to HP5 to replace Tri-X if it disappears....

Re: Kodak's moment

PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:08 am
by Reschsmooth
aim54x wrote:
Reschsmooth wrote:Interesting that Kodak stopped producing film yet Fuji, if I am correct, re-released Velvia 50 a couple of years ago.

From where will I get my Tri-X and HC-110?


But you forget the films that Fuji has killed off.....Neopan SS, Neopan 1600, Astia, Sensia, Reala, PRO800.....

I guess you will have to swap to HP5 to replace Tri-X if it disappears....


True. Could always switch to a t-grain emulsion like TMax or Delta, whilst it is still around.

But didn't Fuji replace SS with Acros? Or is that in the line that has been discontinued?

Re: Kodak's moment

PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:15 am
by aim54x
Apologies to Gary...this is getting a bit off topic

Reschsmooth wrote:
aim54x wrote:
Reschsmooth wrote:Interesting that Kodak stopped producing film yet Fuji, if I am correct, re-released Velvia 50 a couple of years ago.

From where will I get my Tri-X and HC-110?


But you forget the films that Fuji has killed off.....Neopan SS, Neopan 1600, Astia, Sensia, Reala, PRO800.....

I guess you will have to swap to HP5 to replace Tri-X if it disappears....


True. Could always switch to a t-grain emulsion like TMax or Delta, whilst it is still around.

But didn't Fuji replace SS with Acros? Or is that in the line that has been discontinued?


Neopan SS and Neopan ACROS used to run side by side. Neopan SS was a traditional film (like PANF/FP4/HP5/Tri-X) Neopan ACROS is an encapsulated film (like Delta and T-Max and the other Neopans). ACROS is still available, but it is sad not to have a traditional crystal emulsion available from Fuji.

I have to hope that Ilford doesnt change their line up......my favourites are (in order):
-Neopan 1600 (Super Presto) - sadly discontinued
-Ilford Delta 3200
-Neopan SS 100 - sadly discontinued
-Neopan 400 (Presto)
-Ilford FP4+ 125
-Ilford PanF 50

Yes I have a penchant for high speed films! I generally dont like 400 films, but Presto is really nice. I am not a fan of the T-Max range, and reports state that Kodak has played with Tri-X again (the guys at work who used to love Tri-X have all switched to HP5)