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I might get coupa of Tokina Zoom Super Wide Angle AF 12-24mm f/4 AT-X 124AF Pro DX, to see what the difference of it and the Sigma + Nikon.

I've seen good review of this lens on other sites but want to try it.

Price is similar to the Sigma 12-24, but unconfirmed.

Bugger, I was going to speak to you about ordering a Sigma 12-24 tomorrow, as I've saved up the money! Hmm, decisions decisions!

I may be interested too birddog, any idea where I can see the specificatios?

MCWB wrote:Bugger, I was going to speak to you about ordering a Sigma 12-24 tomorrow, as I've saved up the money! Hmm, decisions decisions!

The Sigma is still in my favour cos I haven't seen the Tokina yet and Tokina is not so popular with us as the Sigma or Nikon.

The only thing I don't like about the sigma is that you can't put filters on the front.

phillipb wrote:The only thing I don't like about the sigma is that you can't put filters on the front.

Yes, I know that, the Tokina is similar to the Nikon 12-24 and the Tokina 12-24 is DX, Sigma can be used in both type of camera.
I have the Nikon 12-24Dx btw, but would like to see anything in between them.
The Tokina has few good reviews from DPR, and tried to search its spec. but could not find it yet in English.

Found one:
http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... D%26sa%3DN

Found this on B&H, is this of any help :

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/control ... 350&is=REG

Specifications

Filter Size 77mm

f/Stop Range 4-22

Minimum Focus Distance 11.8" (30 cm)

Magnification 1:8.3

Zoom/Focus Control Two-touch

Angle of View 99 to 61 Degrees

Groups/Elements 11/13

Tripod Collar No

Length 3.5" (90mm)

Maximum Diameter 3.3" (84mm)

Weight 1.2 lb (570 g)

Thanks Birddog / Fozzie
That looks interesting. B&H have it for US$499 but no stock.

phillipb wrote:Thanks Birddog,
That looks interesting. B&H have it for US$499 but no stock.

With freight and other charges will be US$550.00

Have you had any luck getting one?

Adorama are the same, quote 'This Item is out of stock due to a back order situation. Please note: You can order this now and as soon as it arrives we will ship it to you. We do not charge your card for any backordered items. We only charge your card when we actually ship.' unquote

http://www.adorama.com/TN1224NKAF.html? ... &item_no=2

phillipb wrote:Have you had any luck getting one?

I try next week, but don't know yet, have to wait for Monday! If you're interested, I might push it harder.

With the price tag from B&H and adorma, sure you'll receive a ransom note from the Boys in Blue, hehehehe

Yes mate, definetly interested.

A few pics (53 MB of RAWs or 32 MB of jpgs) from the Tokina over at Nikonians: http://www.nikonians.org/dcforum/DCForumID17/1274.html

The last bloke there makes a very interesting point; I'm not so hung up on filters anymore, so am leaning towards the Sigma, unless the Tokina comes up optically better. The Sigma is only 1/3 stop slower at 12 mm, and I'm not so worried about that. Nothing I'm seeing is convincing me to go with the Nikkor option I'm afraid (sorry Stubbsy ).

FYI: these Tokina's are not competitively priced here for some reason. They cost more from HKSupplies' suppliers than the Sigma, and certainly more than the B&H prices given to us for comparison.