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SC-28 or SC-29 ????

PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:03 pm
by Spooky
Hello all

I am getting a flash bracket for my SB800 to avoid shadows while shooting portrait.

I'm not sure I understand the deal with the connector cords or if I need one at all as I thought the SB800 could be used wirelessly anyway.

Choice seems to be the SC-28 or SC-29.

Can anyone advise the advantages and disadvantages of either? I have researched on the net but finding it difficult to get a clear picture.

Thanks

PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:06 pm
by birddog114
Spooky,
What type of flash bracket are u going to get?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:14 pm
by Spooky
Birdy

I will probably get the Stroboflip VH2000. The RRS bracket you suggested would do the job I am sure but it is $250US more expensive.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:20 pm
by birddog114
Spooky wrote:Birdy

I will probably get the Stroboflip VH2000. The RRS bracket you suggested would do the job I am sure but it is $250US more expensive.


This type of flash bracket looks very bulky isn't it?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/control ... &sku=52784

PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:36 pm
by sirhc55
The stroboflip works fine - I have used mine for a wedding and other shoots and although it does not look as smick as the RRS etc., it does the job :D

PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 7:16 am
by Spooky
Anyone with any comments on the relative merits of the SC-28 compared to the SC-29. Which should I get?

PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 7:40 am
by birddog114
SC-28 or 29 is not a big difference. The only difference is one has the IR and other not. Just make sure the flash bracket you're going to get is not obstruct the IR on the SC-29 mounted on the hot shoe.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:56 pm
by Jenno
Just a bit of clarification which may assist others with the SC-29 and trying to decide on a suitable flash bracket

The SC-29 has a switch which allows you to turn off the IR on the hot shoe connector and use the IR located on the the flash unit.

This overcomes the problem presented by the RRS flash bracket which effectively blocks the IR unit on the hot shoe.

Hope this helps

Ray

Re: SC-28 or SC-29 ????

PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 10:21 am
by genji
Spooky wrote:Hello all

I am getting a flash bracket for my SB800 to avoid shadows while shooting portrait.

Thanks


can u explain further? can u explain the situations, ie indoor or outdoor? with indoor u would bounce the light of ceiling. with outdoor u would use diffuser. would u be able to provide pic to illustrate?

Re: SC-28 or SC-29 ????

PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:00 am
by sirhc55
genji wrote:
Spooky wrote:Hello all

I am getting a flash bracket for my SB800 to avoid shadows while shooting portrait.

Thanks


can u explain further? can u explain the situations, ie indoor or outdoor? with indoor u would bounce the light of ceiling. with outdoor u would use diffuser. would u be able to provide pic to illustrate?


Hard to understand your questions Genji - the main function of a camera bracket with which you can use your SB800 off camera is to be able to switch the flash from horizontal to vertical format. This enables the flash to be ABOVE the lens in all situations. This helps minimise shadows when shooting in vertical format.

You can still bounce the flash when it is on a bracket because the SB800 head is where the bounce functionality is located - not the bracket.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:13 am
by birddog114
Chris,
You can still bounce the flash when it is on a bracket because the SB800 head is where the bounce functionality is located - not the bracket.


You can swing the flash and bounced it with RRS flash bracket in difference angle same as mounted two flashes on it.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:17 am
by sirhc55
You can do this with the manfrotto dual flash arm as well Birdie but I wanted to keep the answer simple :roll:

PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 1:45 pm
by genji
the reason i ask is because recently i photographed a function (indoors). the Sb800 user guides recommends bouncing the light of the ceiling aswell as using the bounce card. I believe this is the method used by many ppl.

however, after seeing the photos i was not satisfied with the result. some ppl had shadows under eyes, which i thought the bounce card was suppose to avoid, ie bounce card is suppose hi-light :) the eyes.

although some photos at close distance, 1 to 1.5m was acceptable. but others at longer distance didnt work.

in portrait mode, i rotated the SB800 flash head to point towards the ceiling.

the question is with the flash bracket, either RRS or Stroboflip, would u still bounce flash towards ceiling or not??

spooky, sorry for hi-jacking your topic, but wanted to know if we had the same problem.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:53 pm
by Spooky
As I understand it, the bracket allows the flash to remain above the lens and avoid shadows on the side of your subject caused by the SB800 being way out to one side because you have rotated the camera 90 degrees.

To bounce or not to bounce is a seperate issue. People bounce so the light is softer and less harsh on facial features. The use of a bracket allows you to bounce if you wish even when you rotate the camera for a portrait shot because the flash can be moved into a vertical position above the lens.

Still waiting for my Stoboflip to arrive.

PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 10:55 am
by Greolt
I almost started a new topic but then found this one, Phew!!

I want a SC-29 or SC-28.

Birddog are you able to supply one of these?

Digital Rev have SC-29 for $105 delivered

The SC-28 is only about $10 cheaper. So SC-29 is the one I guess.

Any thoughts from the very knowlegeble members here?

I have SB600

Greolt

PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 10:58 am
by birddog114
Greolt wrote:I almost started a new topic but then found this one, Phew!!

I want a SC-29 or SC-28.

Birddog are you able to supply one of these?

Digital Rev have SC-29 for $105 delivered

The SC-28 is only about $10 cheaper. So SC-29 is the one I guess.

Any thoughts from the very knowlegeble members here?

I have SB600

Greolt


Can you tell more: why do you need the SC-xxx?

PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 11:16 am
by Greolt
Birddog

Basicaly I want to be able to use the flash off camera.

Portraits in portrait orientation (not landscape)
Side lighting flash etc.

I realise I can use on camera flash to trigger it but
1. I don't know how to do it (I know, too lazy to read the manual)
2. Don't want on camera flash to contribute to lighting.

Greolt

PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 11:19 am
by birddog114
Greolt wrote:Birddog

Basicaly I want to be able to use the flash off camera.

Portraits in portrait orientation (not landscape)
Side lighting flash etc.

I realise I can use on camera flash to trigger it but
1. I don't know how to do it (I know, too lazy to read the manual)
2. Don't want on camera flash to contribute to lighting.

Greolt


Are you going to use it with flash bracket?
The SC 28/ 29 with its limitation in lenght if you're going to use it off camera with distance.

PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 11:30 am
by Greolt
Birddog114 wrote:Are you going to use it with flash bracket?
The SC 28/ 29 with its limitation in lenght if you're going to use it off camera with distance.


I understand these cables are good for about 1.5 metres which is more than I can imagine using.

Yes a flash bracket is one use as well as hand held.
The bracket I have is a generic one and does not block the IR on hot shoe.

Greolt

PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 11:32 am
by birddog114
Greolt wrote:
Birddog114 wrote:Are you going to use it with flash bracket?
The SC 28/ 29 with its limitation in lenght if you're going to use it off camera with distance.


I understand these cables are good for about 1.5 metres which is more than I can imagine using.

Yes a flash bracket is one use as well as hand held.
The bracket I have is a generic one and does not block the IR on hot shoe.

Greolt


Then get a SC29 if there's no obstruction from the flash bracket.

PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 11:39 am
by Greolt
Are you able to get one Birddog or do I just go with Digital Rev?

Greolt

PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 11:40 am
by birddog114
Greolt wrote:Are you able to get one Birddog or do I just go with Digital Rev?

Greolt


Greolt
Please, use other email address in the bargain section

PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 11:54 am
by Greolt
Done Birddog.