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I have the need for speed!!

PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 12:16 am
by johndec
After 7 months of happy D70 ownership, I've finally discovered what everyone was saying was right :lol: There is no substitute for wide aperture lenses. Despite the horrendous costs that Nikon decides to inflict on us for quality glass, well, that's why they call it "quality glass"...

I'd forgotten so much that I'd learnt from using film SLR's in the 10 years between film and the D70. :oops: I dismissed the need for fast glass by rationalising that I could bump up the ISO or use VR to compensate. Good in theory, but I've had a quiet work week, so therefore a busy photography week. What I've learnt this week is that whilst I can capture a sharp image with virtually any lens, no amount of PP will give me the DOF or bokeh that I require to make my pics something better than "snapshots" without the right glass... (Landscapes excluded). I've thrown away more images this week than I care to think about for want of a couple of stops.

Mmmm, looks like I'll be spending some money :shock: PS: I know that many of the world greatest photos were taken with little better than pinhole cameras, but I'm no Ansel Adams :lol:

PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:54 am
by Onyx
Well John, congrats on admitting your problem... scratch that, you've become enlightened! :) I bet your week of photography was a journey of self discovery that's brought your attention to the need for faster glass - in essence, finding a solution to a photographic problem (not many issues can be solved with buying gear, but this is legitimately one of them).

So what's it gunna be: the 17-55 or 28-70 question or 70-200VR one?!

PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:28 am
by birddog114
John,
I've been reading many posts in this forum which people mentioned they do not need the fast glasses as I advised.
Oh yeah! now you may discover why I'm always sourcing the fastest glasses if I can. If you can't afford them today, save up and get them later.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:50 am
by Link
You're right, there is nothing like a fast lens! I'm on a small budget and I have a 50mm f/1.8, it's a top lens to experiment with depth of field in portrait situations. And from about f/4, it also gives incredibly clear and sharp pictures.

Link.

Re: I have the need for speed!!

PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:46 am
by Greg B
johndec wrote:.....What I've learnt this week is that whilst I can capture a sharp image with virtually any lens, no amount of PP will give me the DOF or bokeh that I require to make my pics something better than "snapshots" without the right glass... (Landscapes excluded).


John

I assume you are saying that you want less DoF, because that is what a larger aperture will give you.

:D

cheers

PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 10:02 am
by johndec
Chi: Still tossing up on that one :lol: Perhaps 12-24, 28-70, 700-200 + TC.

Greg: Yes :shock:

PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 10:18 am
by stubbsy
johndec wrote:Chi: Still tossing up on that one :lol: Perhaps 12-24, 28-70, 700-200 + TC.

Greg: Yes :shock:

John

I have 12-24, 24-120 VR and 70-200VR (all Nikon glass) and a 50/1.4 I find this is a very useful combo. When I want fast I have the 70-200 or the 50 and I have the full range covered amongst the lenses. Why the 24-120? Well the VR is a bonus and it's range is great for walking around.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 10:22 am
by birddog114
johndec wrote:Chi: Still tossing up on that one :lol: Perhaps 12-24, 28-70, 700-200 + TC.


John,
Great to see your taste! :lol: had you won a lottery ticket lately and unannounced?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 10:43 am
by MHD
Hey no fair... thats MY wishlist!

PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 10:45 am
by birddog114
MHD wrote:Hey no fair... thats MY wishlist!


MHD,
They're on the horizon once you've made your license to print money. :wink:

PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 11:06 am
by wendellt
I am thinking about getting the Nikkor 28-70mm as my future main lens
because it's robust, built like a tank, has an f/stop of 2.8 and can be used as a weapon if an assailant decides to try their luck.

I have read alot of reviews and alot of people are sitting on the fence on this one, mainly because it's not a DX lens and that it is old and heavy, in favour of the 17-55 which is a DX lens specifically made for DSLR's
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/1755.htm

Could i go without important DX features that the 17-55 offers in favour for the 28-70mm Has anyone used the 28-70 is it indeed a fast lens?

review
http://www.nelsontan.com/reviews/afs/afs2870.html

thankyou

PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 11:09 am
by Glen
Wendell, do a search, I am sure Birddy has mentioned that lens, it's one of his favourites

PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 11:23 am
by MHD
wendellt wrote:I am thinking about getting the Nikkor 28-70mm as my future main lens
because it's robust, built like a tank, has an f/stop of 2.8 and can be used as a weapon if an assailant decides to try their luck.

I have read alot of reviews and alot of people are sitting on the fence on this one, mainly because it's not a DX lens and that it is old and heavy, in favour of the 17-55 which is a DX lens specifically made for DSLR's
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/1755.htm

Could i go without important DX features that the 17-55 offers in favour for the 28-70mm Has anyone used the 28-70 is it indeed a fast lens?

review
http://www.nelsontan.com/reviews/afs/afs2870.html

thankyou


My thoughts here:
http://kit.potofgrass.com/index.php?mod ... d=3&meid=6

PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 11:44 am
by wendellt
thanks everyone
everything is made clear in this thread
http://www.d70users.net/viewtopic.php?t ... mm&start=0