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Is digital as good as film

PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 2:55 pm
by stubbsy
See this article from today's SMH (and probably The Age). They even used a D70!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 3:22 pm
by gstark
What utter crap!

Here's my response to the SMH over this article.

Excuse me, but do you call this piece of drivel that's maquearading as a technical article a test?

Or even a comparison?

What a load of absolute hogwash!

How in the world do you expect to compare digital media with silver halide media, when you're not even starting on a level playing field? You're not even on the same planet!

For starters, you're using an Olympus OM2 - a truly fine film camera - and trying to compare the results obtained with those obtained from a Nikon D70. The problem - and it's a huge, serious, major league problem - is that the Olympus camera is most likely using Olympus lenses, while the Nikon Camera is using Nikkor glass. Where are you showing, in your so-called journalistic masterpiece, the underlying differences that the different lenses will impart upon each image?

Now, there's nothing at all wrong with Olympus glass - they make some truly wonderful lenses - and there's nothing wrong with Nikon glass either, but the basic premise for this so-called test is so flawed that it's not a test - it's a joke, and a very poor one, at that.

This is not professional journalism of any sort; it's rank amatuerism, it's blatantly so, and, for a paper of your calibre to even contemplate publishing rubbish like this is not just disappointing, it's a serious step down into the dungeons of tabloidism!


You may as well get a Manly Ferry and compare its features with the QEII, that's how stupid, how irrelevant, and how (un)scientific your so-called test is.

What's even worse - you don't even bother to state what lenses you're using on each body. My cat performs more scientific testing than this piece of so-called journalism! Whomever is responsible for this needs to be taken out back and shot. Probably with a Pentax!


Get with the program, and compare like with like.

Take a Nikon D70 and compare images with those taken on, say, a Nikon F90, but using a common lens between the two cameras. Say a 50mm 1.4.

Likewise, do the same using, say, a Canon EOS 350D and a similar Canon film camera, but again, using a common lens (or suite of lenses) that can be used on both cameras.

And if you need help on setting something scientific up, I'm sure that something can be arranged!


PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 4:46 pm
by Glen
Gary, good response, I was surprised when reading that they were using different lenses, never mind different brands. There is no way he could know what was introducing a colour cast, sensor or lens.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:00 pm
by stubbsy
Strange thing is I started to add this in the Humour section, but hesitated as I thought I might be a little biased at the quality of the journalism :shock:

PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:07 pm
by gstark
stubbsy wrote:Strange thing is I started to add this in the Humour section, but hesitated as I thought I might be a little biased at the quality of the journalism :shock:


Other than the fact that the topic is, after all, quite a reasonable one for discussion, perhaps I should move it. :)

PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:08 pm
by boxerboy
But Gary, what did you really think? :lol:

PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:10 pm
by Killakoala
Sensational response Gary, truly sensational. :)

PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:24 pm
by gstark
boxerboy wrote:But Gary, what did you really think? :lol:


Let's just accept that what was sent was edit #4 or 5. :)

PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:24 pm
by Glen
Be interested to see the response

PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:29 pm
by wendellt
What's even worse - you don't even bother to state what lenses you're using on each body. My cat performs more scientific testing than this piece of so-called journalism! Whomever is responsible for this needs to be taken out back and shot. Probably with a Pentax!


run over by a sigma or shot by a canon

Yeah Gary Blast em!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:32 pm
by Nnnnsic
That explains what Vivaldi (our cat) is doing at home with his time every day...

PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 7:07 pm
by Matt. K
It must be true. I read it in the newspaper. :shock: :shock: :shock:

PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:54 am
by Nnnnsic
And the Herald.

Of all the bloody papers to read it in, it was one done by Fairfax!!!

I'm beginning to lose all hope entirely in the Australian printed news.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:59 am
by sirhc55
Gary - eloquent and to the point - thank God they did not use S glass - you would have ended up being labelled a terrorist :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 2:06 am
by MattC
I knew there was a reason why I pass over tech articles written by/for publications that do not specialise in those areas.

Cheers

Matt