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D70 only good for 35,000 Shots?
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Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:38 pmby WadeM
Hey all,
I was just talking to another guy I work with, who used to be an authorized Nikon repairer. He's been talking to a few of his buddies still in the game about the D70.
Both of the repairers he knows (@ Maxwell Australia), have said the D70 is only good for 35,000 shots before the shutter and/or mirror collapse in the unit. They both said the build quality is not that which matches a professional standard, and advised him against buying it..
Anyone got any confirmation/stories on this? Is this _normal_ for a DSLR?
Cheers,
--Wade
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Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:44 pmby birddog114
Tell him go back and work with Maxwell!
I knew few guys, who did over 40k on their D70 in the first 6 months, they owned the camera, of course they use the D70 daily and shooting for living.
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Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:47 pmby huynhie
The shutter life on a consumer SLR/DSLR has always been lower the on a pro SLR/DSLR, I guess you pay for what you get.
Still 35000 shutter cycles is approximately 95 shot a day for a whole year. All things mechanical ar prone to breakage you cant really do much about it.
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Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:49 pmby WadeM
At my current rate of shooting, it's just over 3 years. It's a bit annoying, but liveable. I did'nt spend 2k on a D70 to have to spend another $300 on the body a few years later.
I wonder if the Canon 20D has such issues?
Birddog's got 1 mate who did 40k in 6 months, anyone else done over 35k? I'm interested if this is a theretical limit, or a physical thing (IE sping) only lasting that long.....
--Wade
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Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:49 pmby huynhie
BTW the expected operating life of a Plasma screen tv is also shorter than a normal CRT tv but it still doesn't stop people from buying one.
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Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:51 pmby birddog114
WadeM wrote:Birddog's got 1 mate who did 40k in 6 months, anyone else done over 35k? I'm interested if this is a theretical limit, or a physical thing (IE sping) only lasting that long.....
--Wade
Not one but 4 of them they work for difference agencies.
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Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:52 pmby huynhie
WadeM wrote:
I wonder if the Canon 20D has such issues?
--Wade
All camera's shutter have an operating life not just the Nikon's, the 20D also have a limited shutter cycle.
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Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:54 pmby WadeM
huynhie wrote:WadeM wrote:
I wonder if the Canon 20D has such issues?
--Wade
All camera's shutter have an operating life not just the Nikon's, the 20D also have a limited shutter cycle.
I understand, just wonder if it's higher or lower limit...
Everything has an operating life (even humans :p)
--Wade
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Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:55 pmby birddog114
Even on the D2x, one of them which I sold two months ago, done about 4k and shutter release failed, sent it back to Maxwell for repair.
Very hard to say and giving any guarantee on electronic components, one may last for years and one could die next day.
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Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:09 pmby MCWB
Bear in mind that we're talking almost 1000 36 exp rolls of film here, or almost 1500 24 exp rolls. Would you have shot that much on film? There's no way I would have!
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Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:14 pmby birddog114
MCWB wrote:Bear in mind that we're talking almost 1000 36 exp rolls of film here, or almost 1500 24 exp rolls. Would you have shot that much on film? There's no way I would have!
Yes, I agreed.
But there're someone who use their camera as tool of trade so they can pass those above numbers easy within 6-8 months.
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Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:20 pmby WadeM
I understand that it's a decent sized limit. I was just wondering if it's a real limit(and if it's real is it a normal figure), or just an advised therotical limit. I also understand that in life, everything must expire (include Sol).
I wasn't aware and didn't even think about such a limit when buying my DSLR. You've all calmed me down once rationally thinking it over
--Wade_:D
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Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:39 pmby Catcha
Oh well if it happens it happens. Just hope it happen within the 1 year warranty period so anything that was failing can be fixed and give many happy shots for a long time after that
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Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:44 pmby birddog114
Catcha,
Your life is far far much longer than the little toy.
Enjoy yourself! don't worry too much.
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Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:50 pmby Catcha
That it .... make sure you spend the money a a good quality lens hmm 70-200VR sounds good heheheeh that will out last the body for sure....
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Tue Jul 05, 2005 4:12 pmby BBJ
Wade in the 6 or 7 months i have had my D70 i had shot around 15,000 shutter actions, so if i get 30+ out of it i think i will be happy and now well all sale's i do is money in the bank almost for me anyhow, unless i buy a 300m lens.LOL was thinking of saving for D2k but like i read somewhere else camera bodies come and go so good glass might be the go.
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Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:00 pmby Onyx
If that's an unofficial official figure from Nikon techies, it would most likely be a MTBF mean time between failure figure. ie. of all the D70 units sold, record each instance of shutter failure and graph them.
Kinda like IQ numbers - just because the average is 100 doesn't mean the majority of people have that IQ. In fact, it's worth keeping in mind that half the population has an IQ below 100 (especially for those working in customer service roles).
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Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:57 pmby WadeM
That's a classic saying!
"camera bodies come and go so good glass might be the go."
I love it!
--Wade_
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Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:03 pmby marcotrov
i read somewhere else camera bodies come and go so good glass might be the go.
So what's your idea of good glass. I am at that stage right now. Hold off for the the D200 ?? or invest in some good long glass.
marco
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Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:17 pmby BBJ
Good fast glass as in like the Nikon 300mm af-s F/2.8, which i am thinking of getting at some stage.
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Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:41 pmby birddog114
BBJ wrote:Good fast glass as in like the Nikon 300mm af-s F/2.8, which i am thinking of getting at some stage.
BBJ,
No, it's not good enough. The Nikkor 300 AF-S VR