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Posted: **Sun Aug 07, 2005 6:51 pm**

OK THEN. Amongst all the angst of thinking of a theme for the next competition, I thought... Why not come up with some and see what people would like? Vote for your favourite and maybe I can get a hint of a direction...

I realise there are some hard to work with themes here, but as we have seen, it is the way YOU view a topic, IMHO there are no right and wrongs here.

Posted: **Sun Aug 07, 2005 6:56 pm**

"Winning" (you'd know all about that, wouldn't you Heath? :wink:

Frank

Posted: **Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:01 pm**

Frankenstein wrote:"Winning" (you'd know all about that, wouldn't you Heath?

Frank

Thanks Frank - I appreciate you rubbing it in!

Posted: **Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:06 pm**

I would not confine a comp to using a specific lens size, i.e. 50mm :!:

For those of us not using a prime 50mm and could only rely on a zoom within the range, is restrictive :wink:

Posted: **Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:08 pm**

sirhc55 wrote:I would not confine a comp to using a specific lens size, i.e. 50mm

For those of us not using a prime 50mm and could only rely on a zoom within the range, is restrictive

Just set the zoom to 50mm.....everyone has that on thier kit lens. I will have to use it

Posted: **Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:10 pm**

Hi Heath
Me personally, I'd prefer not to be given a choice. That's what I like so much about these challenges....you don't know what's coming up next....

However, I appreciate the task you now have is not an easy one (I wouldn't like to be in your shoes - except to be the proud owner of that D70s :lol:

)

I'll refrain from voting.....sorry.

Looking forward to seeing what you come up with

PS...congrats on winning Challenge 5......very nicely done !

Posted: **Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:19 pm**

embi wrote:
sirhc55 wrote:I would not confine a comp to using a specific lens size, i.e. 50mm

For those of us not using a prime 50mm and could only rely on a zoom within the range, is restrictive

Just set the zoom to 50mm.....everyone has that on thier kit lens. I will have to use it

50mm on the kit lens would in no way match a prime if you are looking for quality :roll:

Posted: **Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:28 pm**

Hey Heath,

Congrats on the win.

As an old BMX /Skater from Way back I enjoyed your pic.

Good work

MATT

Good luck picking a topic

Posted: **Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:30 pm**

i choose 'post card from', IMO it has the most interpretation

Posted: **Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:31 pm**

MATT wrote:Hey Heath,

Congrats on the win.

As an old BMX /Skater from Way back I enjoyed your pic.

Good work

MATT

Good luck picking a topic

thanks matt

Posted: **Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:38 pm**

Either Portrait or Postcard from...

I like the Postcard from idea as that leaves a very broad range of ideas that can be encapsuated from traditional to daggy

Posted: **Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:39 pm**

Hi Heath, firstly congratulations on you win. I chose the 10 second exposure, because if forces everyone to use that particular criteria but the results will invariably be very different, so there's plenty of scope for individuality.

Posted: **Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:43 pm**

sirhc55 wrote:
embi wrote:
sirhc55 wrote:I would not confine a comp to using a specific lens size, i.e. 50mm

For those of us not using a prime 50mm and could only rely on a zoom within the range, is restrictive

Just set the zoom to 50mm.....everyone has that on thier kit lens. I will have to use it

50mm on the kit lens would in no way match a prime if you are looking for quality

I fully agree with CHris here, setting a defined focal length could be quite restrictive to members who don't have a prime 50mm lens. i.e people who had the 50mm 1.4 or 1.8 would be at a far greater advantage than those using the kit lens @ 50mm at 4.5 for e.g.

I'm still contemplating these topics but thanx heath for getting them together so quickly!

Posted: **Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:46 pm**

Last night I remember chewing your ear about a portrait theme :lol:

, but I think "Postcard From xxxx" sounds fantastic. So much scope, yet so little ambiguity....

Posted: **Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:08 pm**

only problem with 'postcard from...' is perhaps it may be a bit obvious who took some of the pics depending on the location?

Posted: **Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:19 pm**

sheepie wrote:only problem with 'postcard from...' is perhaps it may be a bit obvious who took some of the pics depending on the location?

Perhaps, but I doubt that many entrants would take such a literal interpretation of the theme. Pretty landscapes such as "Postcard from Bondi/Surfers Paradise/insert local pretty spot" wouldn't get too far as after all you can buy the same pic at the local newsagent for a couple of dollars...

I'd imagine we would see more along the lines of "Postcard from Hell" or "Postcard from Beirut", something very PJish

Posted: **Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:49 pm**

johndec wrote:Last night I remember chewing your ear about a portrait theme , but I think "Postcard From xxxx" sounds fantastic. So much scope, yet so little ambiguity....

and...

johndec wrote:
Perhaps, but I doubt that many entrants would take such a literal interpretation of the theme. Pretty landscapes such as "Postcard from Bondi/Surfers Paradise/insert local pretty spot" wouldn't get too far as after all you can buy the same pic at the local newsagent for a couple of dollars...

I'd imagine we would see more along the lines of "Postcard from Hell" or "Postcard from Beirut", something very PJish

So much for no ambiguity

Posted: **Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:51 pm**

Heath, it's great you're giving us all a choice. You should pick the one least popular just to stir us up.

Posted: **Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:56 pm**

Is it possible that this time it might be open to all camera users on the forum?

Posted: **Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:58 pm**

Portraiture. All effort on the photograph rather than the topic, if you know what I mean.

Posted: **Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:01 pm**

rjlhughes wrote:Is it possible that this time it might be open to all camera users on the forum?

As far as I know it's always been open to everyone, they can win but they just dont recieve the prize. Prizes only go to us lucky aussies.

Posted: **Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:05 pm**

I thought people not using D70s were excluded too.....<sob>

Posted: **Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:06 pm**

phillipb wrote:
johndec wrote:Last night I remember chewing your ear about a portrait theme , but I think "Postcard From xxxx" sounds fantastic. So much scope, yet so little ambiguity....

and...

johndec wrote:
Perhaps, but I doubt that many entrants would take such a literal interpretation of the theme. Pretty landscapes such as "Postcard from Bondi/Surfers Paradise/insert local pretty spot" wouldn't get too far as after all you can buy the same pic at the local newsagent for a couple of dollars...

I'd imagine we would see more along the lines of "Postcard from Hell" or "Postcard from Beirut", something very PJish

So much for no ambiguity

Umm, yeah, whoops :oops:

Perhaps I could have chosen my words a little more carefully in the first quote. Ambiguity was the wrong word, but I was alluding to the controversy of what was a "Decisive Moment".

Mea Culpa :wink:

Posted: **Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:07 pm**

rjlhughes wrote:Is it possible that this time it might be open to all camera users on the forum?

If you mean other brands of camera users eg Canon, I think all future comps will be open to any brand. Admins or mods will soon tell us if I'm wrong.

Posted: **Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:07 pm**

Onyx wrote:Heath, it's great you're giving us all a choice. You should pick the one least popular just to stir us up.

very interesting idea. hmm. :twisted:

Posted: **Sun Aug 07, 2005 11:14 pm**

Well I voted for 50mm because, would you believe, that's the theme I had already thought of as the theme should I win the comp :cry:

So far as comments re: 50 prime vs 50 zoom - my view is a great shot is 90% what's behind the lens and 10% what's in front (disclaimer I have a 50mm prime) so I don't see that as an issue. 10 second shot on the other hand - what if you don't have a tripod? (like me up until I get my BH 55 Pro head for my new 1325 body?)

Oh and Heath - great idea having a poll to share the blame for the next theme :lol:

Posted: **Sun Aug 07, 2005 11:16 pm**

Peter
I see you got home safely. And then just couldn't help yourself but jump on the forum? Go to bed.

Posted: **Sun Aug 07, 2005 11:42 pm**

I think I'd like a few more options Heath... Knowing this forum's members as I do, I'm sure that they could interpret any of your suggestions in many different ways... :twisted:

In other words... don't ask... you'll get a million flavours... Just pick wisely :wink:

The 50mm theme was one of my suggestions - I don't see the problem with it... Everybody has a lens that will focus at 50mm... not everyone has a studio, a lighting rig, a flash or imagination...

Posted: **Sun Aug 07, 2005 11:46 pm**

Matt. K wrote:Peter
I see you got home safely. And then just couldn't help yourself but jump on the forum? Go to bed.

Well I was going to go to bed about 10:30 which was 15 minutes ago, just finished loading the last of the 5Gb of shots. My rough guess was I took 1,000 shots over the weekend. Now I've uploaded to my PC the good news is I only took 882 - even better news is 2 of these were tulip pics :wink:

Posted: **Sun Aug 07, 2005 11:52 pm**

stubbsy wrote: - my view is a great shot is 90% what's behind the lens and 10% what's in front

In other words VR is just hype and those that use VR must have delirium tremors

Posted: **Mon Aug 08, 2005 12:32 am**

sirhc55 wrote:
stubbsy wrote: - my view is a great shot is 90% what's behind the lens and 10% what's in front

In other words VR is just hype and those that use VR must have delirium tremors

Chris, since I have shaky hands (and love marketing hype) I'm bound to say that VR is part of the 10% :wink:

Posted: **Mon Aug 08, 2005 8:08 am**

The general sentiment here is accepting towards putting it up to a vote. If I choose the one which has the most votes (which I may well do), my biggest concern is that people will feel compelled to do the same for following competitions. This is JUST my way of doing things, not the way of the future, I HOPE

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Posted: **Mon Aug 08, 2005 8:38 am**

I not that 50mm only is getting quite a few votes, however that would rule a lot of members out. Surely not the intention.

Posted: **Mon Aug 08, 2005 9:19 am**

I like the idea of Non-fiction.

Posted: **Mon Aug 08, 2005 9:35 am**

I love the idea of 10 sec exposure.. That's my kind of photography

Geoff

Posted: **Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:21 am**

Yeah me too... 10 second exposure is a great idea!

Posted: **Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:33 am**

Oneputt wrote:I not that 50mm only is getting quite a few votes, however that would rule a lot of members out. Surely not the intention.

50mm is in the zoom range of the kit..

It is do-able, I could make it a condition of entry that the FL is embedded in the EXIF...

Posted: **Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:39 am**

Heath Bennett wrote:The general sentiment here is accepting towards putting it up to a vote. If I choose the one which has the most votes (which I may well do), my biggest concern is that people will feel compelled to do the same for following competitions. This is JUST my way of doing things, not the way of the future, I HOPE .

Heath

Ultimately the biggest problem with a vote is it won't be a phenomenal help. So far there have been 41 votes in total. That's less than the number of entries submitted in the last comp and a tiny proportion of even the active membership.

Posted: **Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:43 am**

At the end of the day it is Heath's descision, I imagine he is just seeking a bit of guidence..

I like most of the themes presented so my vote comes down to a personal preference..

Posted: **Mon Aug 08, 2005 12:07 pm**

I like the idea of a theme that narrows the choices and really tests the capabilities of the photographer. This would put less emphasis on clever or lucky subject matter (not that there's anything wrong with that).
Not sure that any of the suggested themes here would do that necessarily though

As for the 50mm question, correct me if I'm wrong, to date the comp has not been won by the photag with the best glass. :?:

So lens superiority may not be a big issue here.

Posted: **Mon Aug 08, 2005 4:56 pm**

phillipb wrote:If you mean other brands of camera users eg Canon, I think all future comps will be open to any brand. Admins or mods will soon tell us if I'm wrong.

Is it true that from here on in it will not be denomination specific? So all of us with a EOS can get the experience.

Sounds good . . . .

Tristan

Posted: **Mon Aug 08, 2005 5:00 pm**

Yes... future comps will be open to all DSLR cameras...
Old, new, expensive, cheap... Every body...

Posted: **Mon Aug 08, 2005 5:11 pm**

ozonejunkie wrote:
phillipb wrote:If you mean other brands of camera users eg Canon, I think all future comps will be open to any brand. Admins or mods will soon tell us if I'm wrong.

Is it true that from here on in it will not be denomination specific? So all of us with a EOS can get the experience.

Sounds good . . . .

Tristan

But we also have other as POTW, ES, Images Review & Critiques sections. Apart from these: workshops, indoor/ outdoor meets.

Lot of avenues on this forum for all members want to improve their skills in photography either hobby or professional field.

The only gap hole I've found:

Lot of resources but lack of interests.

Posted: **Mon Aug 08, 2005 5:18 pm**

Tristan

ozonejunkie wrote:
phillipb wrote:If you mean other brands of camera users eg Canon, I think all future comps will be open to any brand. Admins or mods will soon tell us if I'm wrong.

Is it true that from here on in it will not be denomination specific? So all of us with a EOS can get the experience.

This is correct.

From here on in, it's DSLRUsers.com (the new logo should be online tonight once I hand Leigh the keys to the FTP server) and and DSLR will be eligible as an entry platform for the challenges.

Posted: **Mon Aug 08, 2005 5:22 pm**

I like the challenge behind the 10sec theme. I find 50mm a bit too open and wonder if you are allowed to reverse the lens or crop the photo.

Mind you I like most of the themes listed - Thanks Heath

Posted: **Mon Aug 08, 2005 5:47 pm**

I like 10 second... it’s achievable and creates some interesting restrictions and sure to be a great learning experience... go team!

Posted: **Mon Aug 08, 2005 6:30 pm**

JordanP wrote: I find 50mm a bit too open and wonder if you are allowed to reverse the lens or crop the photo.

That's a very good point, if you go with the 50mm theme, then cropping would effectively be changing to a different focal length.

Posted: **Mon Aug 08, 2005 6:39 pm**

Yes but then it means getting in closer for your image.... no cropping :twisted:

Posted: **Mon Aug 08, 2005 7:31 pm**

I think I'm voting for the 10 sec... With the Melb meet 'NightShots' coming up, this will be a great time to snap up some images!

Maybe I'll shoot some at 50mm. :lol:

Posted: **Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:35 am**

HB,
What do you come up with after few days in voting the selection?
When can you announce the next theme?
We need this to be rolled out so the Comp 6 will start by the end of August.
And you are going to O/S in two weeks time.

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