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Thanks Gooseberry - makes you wonder sometimes whether or not they delay a camera release due to software problems - only a thought

There will be another u/G soon on this new 4.2 to 4.2xxxxxx, once the D2x are in the photog hands.

Birddog114 wrote:There will be another u/G soon on this new 4.2 to 4.2xxxxxx, once the D2x are in the photog hands.

Hi Birddog - this upgrade does handle the D2X that’s what made me think they may have delayed the camera release until they had software that would support it - only a guess

sirhc55 wrote:

Birddog114 wrote:There will be another u/G soon on this new 4.2 to 4.2xxxxxx, once the D2x are in the photog hands.

Hi Birddog - this upgrade does handle the D2X that’s what made me think they may have delayed the camera release until they had software that would support it - only a guess

Chris,
You're right!, the first batch of D2x will be in the hands of "Nikon Tester" and I am sure there will be another U/G after it, and perhaps, firmware u/g for the body with ISO10 and with high speed shutter release "full showing" in the range of 1600 and 3200 (Now it has but it's hidden) and people complaints about max. shutter release is at 800

Thanks Gooseberry

I went looking for this on Saturday and couldn't find it.

I was reading through the release notes and thought this sounded interesting:

Show Focus Area: This option displays the focus area used when the image was captured

Stubs, I agree. I would like to see the difference between the focus area vs actual picture focus. Would be nice to know at the camera is seeing.

Andy

The focus area indication is fantastic but does not work if you have manually focussed or used a non-CPU lens

ugh....4.2 pdate added the stupid nikon nef plugin to pscs again....I wonder why they like to decrease functionality of the raw format. Does that seem odd to anyone else??

Andy

atencati wrote:ugh....4.2 pdate added the stupid nikon nef plugin to pscs again....I wonder why they like to decrease functionality of the raw format. Does that seem odd to anyone else??

Andy

Andy, I am with you 100%.

Just about to undo the change (as far as PS is concerned) and restore the previous superior functionality.

Poor form from Nikon, in my view.

cheers

atencati wrote:ugh....4.2 pdate added the stupid nikon nef plugin to pscs again....I wonder why they like to decrease functionality of the raw format. Does that seem odd to anyone else??

Andy

Now that you mention this...

Is this the problem were Photoshop does not recognise RAW file formats in the browser? I have Photoshop 7 and I can open up a RAW image in Photoshop through Nikon View (edit button) but if I browse in Photoshop I can see the thumbnails but when I go to open them it says "unsupported file type" (or something like that).

What is the fix for this?
W00DY

Woody, I believe Andy is referring to the Adobe NEF plugin - which gives control over a numbers of parameters when you are opening a NEF in PS CS - is replaced (within PS CS) by Capture with a lesser NEF plugin.

Strange but on the mac the NEF from the update was not placed in the file format folder - so for me it is still OK

Woody

I think the solution to the problem your talking about is the Win XP Thumbnail updater
Edit: Actually thinking more about this I'm wondering if you've managed to associate NEF files with an app that can't open them. Is this hapenning from the browser built into photoshop or from Windows Explorer?

stubbsy wrote:Woody

I think the solution to the problem your talking about is the Win XP Thumbnail updater
Edit: Actually thinking more about this I'm wondering if you've managed to associate NEF files with an app that can't open them. Is this hapenning from the browser built into photoshop or from Windows Explorer?

It is happening within photoshop.

If I open a RAW photo in Nikon View and then click the edit button and select photoshop 7 the file is opened ok in photoshop. but if I open the browser WITHIN photoshop I can't open the RAW file?

W00DY

W00DY wrote:

stubbsy wrote:Woody

I think the solution to the problem your talking about is the Win XP Thumbnail updater
Edit: Actually thinking more about this I'm wondering if you've managed to associate NEF files with an app that can't open them. Is this hapenning from the browser built into photoshop or from Windows Explorer?

It is happening within photoshop.

If I open a RAW photo in Nikon View and then click the edit button and select photoshop 7 the file is opened ok in photoshop. but if I open the browser WITHIN photoshop I can't open the RAW file?

W00DY

I can open Nikon NEF direct from PS7 and all work OK with me, I also have PSCS on other PCs as well, but on the PC with PS7, it seems works fine to me.
What have you done, Woody?

I used to be able to. Then I rebuilt my machine last Saturday (had some viruses) and since then i can't???

Might need to re-install Photoshop.

W00DY wrote:I used to be able to. Then I rebuilt my machine last Saturday (had some viruses) and since then i can't???

Might need to re-install Photoshop.

That's your problems! not PS or NC?
Who's the problems maker? viruses? Viruses software protection is cheap!
How often do you rebuilt your PC? last time, not too long ago, we heard you had a 2 x Hdd crashed, did Seagate send you new replacement?
I only built my system once since it was new and clone all the important part of it, good strategy for rescue.

Birddog114 wrote:

W00DY wrote:I used to be able to. Then I rebuilt my machine last Saturday (had some viruses) and since then i can't???

Might need to re-install Photoshop.

That's your problems! not PS or NC?
Who's the problems maker? viruses? Viruses software protection is cheap!
How often do you rebuilt your PC? last time, not too long ago, we heard you had a 2 x Hdd crashed, did Seagate send you new replacement?
I only built my system once since it was new and clone all the important part of it, good strategy for rescue.

Well it is still a problem with either program, a fresh install should not cause problems.

Yes Seagate did send me replacement HD after my last one got fried...

I have virus protection software but I find it does not stop all viruses getting through.

Rebuilding machine every few months isn't a bad thing, keeps the machine nice and clean and running smoothly.

W00DY wrote:

Birddog114 wrote:

W00DY wrote:I used to be able to. Then I rebuilt my machine last Saturday (had some viruses) and since then i can't???

Might need to re-install Photoshop.

That's your problems! not PS or NC?
Who's the problems maker? viruses? Viruses software protection is cheap!
How often do you rebuilt your PC? last time, not too long ago, we heard you had a 2 x Hdd crashed, did Seagate send you new replacement?
I only built my system once since it was new and clone all the important part of it, good strategy for rescue.

Well it is still a problem with either program, a fresh install should not cause problems.

Yes Seagate did send me replacement HD after my last one got fried...

I have virus protection software but I find it does not stop all viruses getting through.

Rebuilding machine every few months isn't a bad thing, keeps the machine nice and clean and running smoothly.

My PCs are running well since built and I don't need to rebuilt them in couple months and my viruses software are good enough protection with my network and PCs, unless you tried so many junkie software and try to uninstall them, then problem will starts.

This is fantastic! I like the changes in ver4.2. In some ways, I think Nikon is trying to make Photoshop obsolete - with the new ability for monochrome, sepia, etc. under the "photo effects" menu, having image rotate function to correct a tilted frame and other nifty additions, makes screw ups easier to deal with. Also having fast or HQ setting for certain image alterations, likewise the better noise reduction options instead of just colour or edge NR (making third party noise reduction software like Noise Ninja or Neat Image obsolete).

The new Nikon Message Centre for checking updates would be a nifty feature, if not for the fact that Nikon updates their software no more frequently than once every few months!

What I didn't care for was auto contrast renamed auto brightness, D-Lighting replacing Digital DEE but otherwise retaining exact functionality - it's a bit too Canonesque in the rehash of an otherwise identical function. Also the third tool palette taking up further desktop real estate that could otherwise be spent on displaying the image itself.

I have been checking the 4.2 update out for the past couple of hours on my 1.3 GHz Pentium M - not exactly a fast machine, but it is the one that I use when on the road.
Nikon can call DEE whatever they like, so long as it works and now it does. I do not use DEE much but when I do, I would like to get it done some time this year. Huge improvement.
Markers is a great tool. Saves a lot of time mucking around saving multiple files and makes it easy to step backwards and compare adjustments, although, I do not really see the need for the third tool pallette. Oh well...
Photo Effects looks like something I am going to have to play with. Same for Noise Reduction.
So far I like the changes. Nikon seems to have made some effort in tidying things up to get it running a bit quicker. Everything seems to run adequately fast even on this humble machine. It certainly does not seem quite as clunky as previous versions.

First Impressions. Time will tell.

Cheers

Matt

I have not been using Nikon Capture although I have a trial version of 4.1. Does any one know what the current price of the software is?

Oneputt wrote:I have not been using Nikon Capture although I have a trial version of 4.1. Does any one know what the current price of the software is?

Going to search mode and type in "Allan"
You'll find the permanent key for it

and buy me a beer later

Thankyou for that Birddog Those beers are mounting up

Onyx wrote:Also the third tool palette taking up further desktop real estate that could otherwise be spent on displaying the image itself.

Onyx,
This problem can be solved by running dual monitor

W00DY wrote:

stubbsy wrote:Woody

I think the solution to the problem your talking about is the Win XP Thumbnail updater
Edit: Actually thinking more about this I'm wondering if you've managed to associate NEF files with an app that can't open them. Is this hapenning from the browser built into photoshop or from Windows Explorer?

It is happening within photoshop.

If I open a RAW photo in Nikon View and then click the edit button and select photoshop 7 the file is opened ok in photoshop. but if I open the browser WITHIN photoshop I can't open the RAW file?

W00DY

I have the exact same problem as Woody with PS CS. Trying to open NEF files from within Photoshop, I get the message that it is an unsupported file type, although the .nef extension is included in the list of files that can be opened!??

boxerboy wrote:

W00DY wrote:

stubbsy wrote:Woody

I think the solution to the problem your talking about is the Win XP Thumbnail updater
Edit: Actually thinking more about this I'm wondering if you've managed to associate NEF files with an app that can't open them. Is this hapenning from the browser built into photoshop or from Windows Explorer?

It is happening within photoshop.

If I open a RAW photo in Nikon View and then click the edit button and select photoshop 7 the file is opened ok in photoshop. but if I open the browser WITHIN photoshop I can't open the RAW file?

W00DY

I have the exact same problem as Woody with PS CS. Trying to open NEF files from within Photoshop, I get the message that it is an unsupported file type, although the .nef extension is included in the list of files that can be opened!??

Boxerboy,
Have you got the adobe raw extension downloaded and copied into your PSCS?
Woody has difference problems from you.

Nikon Capture 4.2 just installed this last night. I have always installed the latest version, last one being 4.1.3.

My belief is that on my Pentium 3 1.4Ghz with 512Mb RAM, it runs faster. It still runs like a dog but it feels faster when loading up images.

Function-wise, I do enjoy having the tinting effects.

Given that I use Nikon Capture first up, then move onto Photoshop CS when necessary, this is tops for any Nikon camera owner.

DN26

Onyx wrote:I think Nikon is trying to make Photoshop obsolete - with the new ability for monochrome, sepia, etc. under the "photo effects" menu

Also worth noting is the excellent Nik Color Efex Pro suite is available in a Nikon Capture version. Although I've not used it in NC I have used this in PS CS and it's pretty sweet. For me there were 3 reasons I'd use PS CS rather than NC - needed to use layers, needed to rotate image or wanted to use filters. Now there's 1 reason (layers). I'm close to being NC only (provided I spend the $$ on Nik Color Efex)

stubbsy wrote:

Onyx wrote:I think Nikon is trying to make Photoshop obsolete - with the new ability for monochrome, sepia, etc. under the "photo effects" menu

Also worth noting is the excellent Nik Color Efex Pro suite is available in a Nikon Capture version. Although I've not used it in NC I have used this in PS CS and it's pretty sweet. For me there were 3 reasons I'd use PS CS rather than NC - needed to use layers, needed to rotate image or wanted to use filters. Now there's 1 reason (layers). I'm close to being NC only (provided I spend the $$ on Nik Color Efex)

I’ll go with you on this Stubbsy - I have nik color efex pro 2.0 for CS and it is superb but added to that are the action that are available for use in PS. I find NC rather slow and so, as a result, use PS rather than NC

I did notice Caputre is still bloaty... perhaps it's been an improvement on versions previous, but last night I had a play around with only 1 open, altering the D-Lighting and noise reduction settings, then noticed heavy disk swappage... opened up task manager and it showed NCapture consuming 390Mb or so of system RAM.


Birddog, as for the 3rd palette and dual monitor - my problem then becomes physical space to place the second monitor!