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New D70 ver 2.0 Firmware
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 3:35 pm
by gooseberry
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 3:42 pm
by leek
So who's going to be the guinea pig???
The release notes don't mention the encryption of WB data...
Surely Nikon wouldn't try to hide that would they???
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 3:47 pm
by gooseberry
I haven't loaded the new firmware yet, but about 20 guys in a singapore forum already have.
Some of them have said that they've already tried loading a RAW image with the new firmware into Photoshop CS and don't seem to have a problem with the WB, but I'm I'll have to wait to confirm it.
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 3:54 pm
by sirhc55
Loaded and ready to test
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 3:55 pm
by Hlop
sirhc55 wrote:Loaded and ready to test
That's our hero!
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 3:55 pm
by sirhc55
Now shows 178 pics on a 1Gb CF in RAW
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 4:07 pm
by leek
sirhc55 wrote:Loaded and ready to test
You brave, brave man!!!
What about the WB?
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 4:10 pm
by Glen
Seems quicker here and my 2GB card went from 188 to 356 in Nef, menu went to black and white, iso menu gives you the options
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 4:10 pm
by sirhc55
Straight out of the camera - kit lens - into Bridge - into ACR3.1 (left at auto settings) - into
PSCS2 - resized - smart sharpening applied - saved as jpeg - and uploaded.
This is exactly what the scene looked like (boring) - no WB problems at all.
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 4:12 pm
by birddog114
Glen wrote:Seems quicker here and my 2GB card went from 188 to 356 in Nef, menu went to black and white, iso menu gives you the options
Glen,
So, it tells you can shoot in B&W without changing the B&W CF card
Can you find the ISO 10 there?
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 4:13 pm
by birddog114
sirhc55
Where are all the girls in those windows last night?
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 4:14 pm
by Glen
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 4:14 pm
by sirhc55
Birddog114 wrote:sirhc55
Where are all the girls in those windows last night?
They pull the curtains when they see me - with camera or without
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 4:15 pm
by leek
sirhc55 wrote:Straight out of the camera - kit lens - into Bridge - into ACR3.1 (left at auto settings) - into
PSCS2 - resized - smart sharpening applied - saved as jpeg - and uploaded.
This is exactly what the scene looked like (boring) - no WB problems at all.
Auto WB? or As-Shot WB?
Can you take something under fluorescent lights or something and see if it keeps the setting chosen by Auto-WB in the camera???
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 4:16 pm
by sirhc55
Auto John - will try fluoro now
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 4:18 pm
by Glen
Chris, the plant is growing well on the wall
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 4:18 pm
by leek
sirhc55 wrote:Auto John - will try fluoro now
Not that I don't trust Nikon or anything...
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 4:25 pm
by gstark
Glen wrote:Chris, the plant is growing well on the wall
That's Chris's good friend Robert.
What we need to see is whether
PS can deal with a manually set in-camera WB.
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 4:30 pm
by sirhc55
Auto WB - handheld - kit lens - cocoon - bowens trilites - opened in Bridge - then ACR3.1 - left all auto settings as is - used WB dropper on cocoon - opened in
PSCS2 - resized - applied smart sharpening - saved as jpeg and uploaded.
No problems at all with WB
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 4:34 pm
by Glen
Just set WB to cloudy, took a shot then opened in PCSC with ACR 2.4? (the old one) and when opened it said WB- Cloudy, so definitely recognises WB. No problems at all.
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 4:36 pm
by Glen
The capicitor next to the fuse looks a little soft compared to the capicitor up the back, is the software no good
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 4:36 pm
by pippin88
Glen, in the other (now closed thread) you mentioned slower manual focus? I don't understand what you mean / how this could be?
Seems all good so far (going from reports here) - AF speed improved and no WB encryption.
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 4:38 pm
by xerubus
loaded and no problems yet. opened raw... processed in usual way... no problems at this stage.
cheers
HELP!?
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 4:39 pm
by Geoff
I just tried to do the upgrade and it's only upgraded B to Version 2 , anyone know why it hasn't had a go at A? I did copy both files across to the memory card!?
A is still on V1.01
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 4:40 pm
by Hlop
pippin88 wrote:Glen, in the other (now closed thread) you mentioned slower manual focus? I don't understand what you mean / how this could be?
It depends on user's driver and hardware version of the user
If user is slow, then manual focus is slow as well
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 4:40 pm
by Bruno
Geoff you need to do them one at a time, delete the b version from your card and go through the process again and it will update a.
cheers
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 4:42 pm
by Geoff
Thanx bruno
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 4:42 pm
by pippin88
Is it necessary to update both? I thought the two bank was to allow for using an older version if there was a problem?
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 4:43 pm
by mickwhit
I'm all upgraded.
I know there was an AF element in this upgrade but I honestly believe the AF captures faster, much to my liking
My Sandisk 1G card is now advertised as being able to take 178 NEF's. Previously, I was only able to take 94.
As I mentioned in one of my earlier posts, WB encryption never really fazed me as I use NC first then import into CS2 so I for one welcome (and like) the upgrade. Thanks Nikon
And if it does die sometime in the near future, then that only hastens my purchase of my D2x from Birddog.
Hope the feed back is helpful to those who are not sure.
Cheers,
Mick.
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 4:46 pm
by leek
Thanks guys...
We're way ahead in our testing here compared to dpreview... most of them are still debating whether the Asian software will run OK on the US & European D70s
I'll install later... I'm much to busy playing with my new copy of Creative Suite 2...
Secured for the bargain price of $568 this arvo...
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 4:53 pm
by gstark
pippin88 wrote:Is it necessary to update both? I thought the two bank was to allow for using an older version if there was a problem?
My understanding is yes.
They're a pigeon pair.
look out for pigeon droppings.
Chris, I agree with Glen that the cap on the RH side looks soft, as does the fuse, truth be told. I suspect that your focal point was further back.
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 4:56 pm
by sirhc55
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 5:00 pm
by xerubus
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 5:05 pm
by MATT
Well all updated here , hmmm.. not to sure I like the LOOK of the B&W menu, but as I read here somewhere before , Its about the Pictures, not how the camera looks.
Any improvemnets are good, Its good the RAW picture count works now . How coul nikon let it out how it was before.
I hope stuff like camera dont go the way of PC software(games in particular) where you get some hastily prepare product and a heap of updates to fix all the bugs.
Anyway Alls good
MATT
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 5:06 pm
by Onyx
(Edit: nothing addressed to Geoff in particular)
Could someone be diligent enough to save an intact copy of this initial release? I have a feeling Nikon might pull it down again or sneak in an updated version that DOES have WB encryption without telling us, and the majority might be stuck with the encrypted version.
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 5:07 pm
by owen
I was just thinking that same thing Onyx. Something doesn't seem right
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 5:11 pm
by leek
Perhaps they've seen the error of their ways...
I will keep this version intact and I also have the previous version just in case...
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 5:13 pm
by Greg B
Done. Thanks Chris et al for taking the step and effectively removing any uncertainty from my day.
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 5:19 pm
by gooseberry
I'll have to wait until I get back home tonight to update, but interesting to hear from you guys that the AF seems to be faster for AF-S lenses
In the release notes, it says the performance of AF is improved for the Dynamic Area and Closest Subject AF
modes. Were these the
modes you were using and noticed the difference ?
Good upgrade...
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 5:36 pm
by Glen
Gooseberry, single and dynamic for me
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 5:38 pm
by mickwhit
gooseberry wrote:I'll have to wait until I get back home tonight to update, but interesting to hear from you guys that the AF seems to be faster for AF-S lenses
In the release notes, it says the performance of AF is improved for the Dynamic Area and Closest Subject AF
modes. Were these the
modes you were using and noticed the difference ?
Good upgrade...
Hi Gooseberry (and all)
I trialled the new upgrade with my 17-55DX lens in AF-S with Dynamic Area using weighted spot metering.
Good Upgrade??? Great for me!
Hope that answers your questions.
Cheers,
Mick.
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 5:39 pm
by Onyx
Yeah from reading the release I came to understand that they merely fiddled with the algorithms for predictive focus in dynamic and closest AF
modes. If people are reporting faster overall AF acquisition - I'd firstly question whether it was merely perceived or real difference.
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 5:45 pm
by Glen
Chi, could easily be perceived in my case, no stopwatch used. Can definitivley say it isn't any slower
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 5:49 pm
by mudder
G'day,
Saw this thread and immediately downloaded and installed.
Was a bit surprised when only the B firmware loaded but then recopied the A firmware to the card and then installed that OK, seemed to default to updating the B first when both files were on the card...
Haven't had a play yet, menu's a bit "different" but haven't had a chance to try it out yet (wish I loaded it this morning, just got back from the zoo)...
Cheers.
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 6:09 pm
by MCWB
The lack of WB encryption is the most awesome thing about this firmware IMO.
I might leave mine with the older firmware, then we can do a side-by-side comparision of AF performance at the mini-meet on Saturday? Unless someone with two D70 bodies wants to do it in the meantime!
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 6:20 pm
by stubbsy
Thanks Gooseberry
Have dld and installed. No WB encryption - I agree with Trent woohoo
I must say I prefer the new menu colours as I find them easier to read. This is something I liked when I first saw them on the D70s.
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 6:50 pm
by MATT
One other thing, I have noticed a great in prove in the Auto focus of my 70-300G. It used to hunt a fair bit in low light .
Know it seems to hit the focus point a lot quicker.
Much better
MATT
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 7:14 pm
by sheepie
MATT wrote:One other thing, I have noticed a great in prove in the Auto focus of my 70-300G. It used to hunt a fair bit in low light .
I think I agree - I just bit the bullet and upgraded, focus on the 70-300
seems to be a bit more direct. I guess only time will tell.
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 7:18 pm
by johndec
Just got home and noticed this very encouraging thread and seeing as all you "Beta" testers have given it the thumbs up
looks like I've got a little job tonight!!
Posted:
Mon May 16, 2005 7:23 pm
by Neeper
It looks good to me as well.