Has anyone tried a Pringle lid for WB?

[birddog114]

Has anyone tried a Pringle for preset WB?

Here are the steps...

1. Set focusing to Manual.
2. Set Function Dial to "WB".
3. Set WB to "Pre" using the Main Command Dial.
4. Turn the Sub-command dial. "Pre" should flash on the LCD.
5. Place the Pringles lid over the front of the lens.
6. Aim camera at the light source.
7. Release shutter.
8. If WB is set successfully "Good" will flash on the LCD.
9. Re-set Function Dial to desired shooting mode.
Note: Use the Shooting Menu to set the exposure mode that you will use when measuring for WB before doing the above. Program mode works fine.

Or one of these will work very well, recommended I have and used it often. It is an amazing tool in difficult situations
http://www.expodisc.com/

[Raydar]

I will tonight mate

I am going to have a play with the off camera flash on something.
I hate Pringles but the kids will eat them

Cheers
Ray

[birddog114]

I don't like them too, just want the lid.

[Raydar]

Just give em to a kid walking past mate

Cheers
Ray

[birddog114]

What're you trying to do tonight?
Wireless flash? use your D70 onboard flash a trigger?
Is there any mix lighting? floro + Incadescent?

[Raydar]

Not shore what I’m going to do yet mate.
I've just been sitting here thinking about it.
Something will jump out at me I hope.
Were I will shoot is just incandescent.

Cheers
Ray

[Onyx]

I've never really needed more than auto WB -2 and incan +1.

[birddog114]

Onyx,
how's about in the mix lighting situation with three or four types of lighting? The meter and WB of the cam is fooled also. with the skin tone under ridiculous lighting, unpredictable!!!Blueish or yellowish that what you may have.

It's also with some places with the word: No Flash allowed, you have to guess and play around with WB on your tiny LCD, it won't bring you the true colour until you put them on the big monitor at home.

I like to play around with all the + and - but I do use the Expodisc at some venue, even the good meter is fooled.

I agreed you can change/ fix in NC or PS but sometime you don't have time with PP or try to avoid to do the PP. and sometime it won't give you a very good result.
Out of the box and give the hold session to the organizer, no PP. What do you think?

[Onyx]

Under mixed lighting, won't the individual light sources be coloured?
I did carry a pringles lid in my camera kit arsenal since I got hold of one (and I was a big advocate of it after initial experimentation), but I've found no use for it so it's now left out.

As for "No flash allowed" places, I love em - esp in my travels. It severe restricts the P&S crowd, which makes me feel elitist with my SLR.

Changing WB in PP always yielded second rate results compared to doing it in camera IMO...

[Greg B]

Some of this anti-Pringles rhetoric is disturbing.....

[gstark]

Some of this anti-Pringles rhetoric is disturbing.....

I thought that Alexander Downer even made a comment on it.

And then Smith chipped in ...

[Raydar]

Good one

[Greg B]

Its Gold Gary

[christiand]

Merry Christmas,

in the kitchen, plastic section of some supermarkets you can find a set
of lids which are used to close opened cans.
These lids come in different diameters, are cheap and do the white balance trick quite well.
They are similar to Prigles lids but not as transperent as the Pringles lids.

Regards
CD

[birddog114]

Merry Christmas,

in the kitchen, plastic section of some supermarkets you can find a set
of lids which are used to close opened cans.
These lids come in different diameters, are cheap and do the white balance trick quite well.
They are similar to Prigles lids but not as transperent as the Pringles lids.

Regards
CD

The old Pringle lid used to be very good for doing preset WB, the new lid is now transparent.
I'm using Expodisc now instead of.

[timbo]

I was very excited by the expodisc when I first heard of it, until I heard of the price from Borge Andersen ($170)... Pringles lid sounds far preferable in terms of price! However I've been shooting almost exclusively in NEF as this totally eliminates the need for WB guesswork at time of shooting. It may take an extra minute of experimenting when opening a batch in NC or PS CS but the leeway it allows is more than worth it. In my opinion the speed of writing NEF on the D70 combined with the advantage of storing virtually all the relevant info you'll ever need far outweighs the space-saving compromise of JPEG.

Interested in hearing others' opinions on this! Regards, Tim

[birddog114]

Most important in shooting Jpeg, shooting NEF you can get away with WB in NC.
Even in NC 4.1xxx you can play around with the WB, but I prefer to shoot with Expodisc with preset WB or use the Expodisc Digital warm balance filter for portrait, save me less time in PP.

[the foto fanatic]

I use ExpoDisc and recommend it.
I think the Preset WB setting on the D70 makes our camera a leader in the market.
WB is a significant setting for obtaining good images. I trialled both Pringles lid and styrofoam cup, but I feel that ExpoDisc, because of its precise calibration, is far more reliable.
When you think about how much we have spent on camera + lenses (why? to maximise our potential to make better images!), does it make sense to trust WB setting to a mass-produced top to a container of snack food?
Can't quite come to grips with that, myself!

[Glen]

Other thing Cricketfan is that Pringles are very high in fat, probably the highest of any chips. That would be why they taste good, but don't use them if you are on a diet

[birddog114]

Other thing Cricketfan is that Pringles are very high in fat, probably the highest of any chips. That would be why they taste good, but don't use them if you are on a diet

Ok, here's the solution:
Buy the Pringle, take the cap/ lid off for your own use and donate the fully sealed can to tsunami victims in SEA. They need fat, and we don't

[the foto fanatic]

I hear you!

[Glen]

Good idea Birddy

[timbo]

I'm sure that there are many times when shooting JPEG is the only way to go, for example when storage space is limited. Where can I get one locally at a good price? I'm prepared to pay GST. BTW Birddog, what's a Gitzo? Is it a pseudonym for a wigwam for a goose's bridle?

[Glen]

Timbo, Gitzo is a tripod manufacturer.

details: http://www.gitzo.com/

[atencati]

I actually tried this when it first pop up and still use it occasionally. I find it works best in bright light sitations. It tends to give cool WB in low light.

Andy

[Onyx]

I can't find my pringles lid!!

I had originally kept one in my camera bag for WB, but due to lack of use I took it out and disposed of it on the floor on my bedroom many months ago.

Now ever since I've had a play with Birddog's expodisc and warming filters, I've been wanting to find that pringles lid to see how it compares to the 'disc (at 2% the cost). But I can't for the life of me find it! And the Pringles cans available these days have a more transparent lid which are not be as suited to this function.

[JimRockford]

I have usually used the transparent grey lids from the pringles can, I thought that this gave good results in certain situations usingmy fuji 602, I find the autoon the d70 quite good, and using the preset with various white items seems to get satisfying results, have only recently bought the d70 so have not had too much chance for experimentation. nef is good too.

[mudder]

G'day,
Dumb question time... That's one thing I'm good at!

I thought that when shoting raw the WB was only applied to the image either in NC or other software, thinking the WB was just a "tag" on the image (ie: not applied directly to the image by the cam), whereas when shooting jpeg the WB was actually applied to the image within the cam when saving to the memory card...

Am I off on a tangent?

Cheers,
Mudder

[gstark]

No, you're not off on a tangent.

And you're sort of right.

When you're shooting NEF, everything is stored separately from the image (the tags) but applied in realtime any time that you view the image.

Shoot two images of the same subject, in raw, but change the WB from the first to the second, and you will see the different results on your playback LCD. You cannot change these results in the camera.

Move the images across to th pc though, and open up NE or NCE, and you can modify the wb for each image as you wish.

If you now make the wb in the second the same setting as you used for the first, you should now have two images presenting to you with the same sort of appearance. Having done that, you have changed the tag recorded against the image (as you suspected) but you are also applying that new tag to the image in real time, thus you can see the effect of the change.

But the beauty of doing it this way is that it's non-destructive; you can always undo the change, or save it as a duplicate image, and finally use the modified (or original) image file as the source for your completed masterpiece.

[mudder]

Thanks Gary, the info is much appreciated. I think that's basically what I was trying to say in my own illiterate way...

So effectively, the WB on a NEF is only applied when viewing unless saved in another (ie: non NEF) format?

Cheers,
Mudder

[Matt. K]

Oh! So you have to take the pringles out?

[Matt. K]

Expo-disk...Cost to manufacture...$4.....Sell for...$170!!!!!

I'll take a dozen thanks! No..not those, the Pringle lids!

[birddog114]

Expo-disk...Cost to manufacture...$4.....Sell for...$170!!!!!

I'll take a dozen thanks! No..not those, the Pringle lids!

Matt.K
Please go to Campbells Cash & Carry in Liverpool get the whole carton of Pringle chips about 32 cans keep the lids and send the sealed cans to World Vision for feeding the needy. Claim back your donation on it