Got new cam, Sorry not Nikon, use Mem stik, not from Birddy!

[Glen]

Will I be forgiven?


2MP, came with a 64mb SD card, mp3 player, FM radio, blah, blah (even has movie mode unlike most D70's unless you have the Ted's version) and also a phone!





The absolute best photographic accessory available for a mobile phone:





This a remote controlled (by your phone, via bluetooth) camera which moves around like a remote controlled car. If people were worried about mobiles in the change room, wait till they get a load of this!! You can stand outside the changeroom and send robo cam in! Could be a lot of fun in an office enviroment, etc.

More details on Robo Cam here: http://www.sonyericsson.com/rob1/main.asp?LangID=1 Not yet available in Aus, but looks like fun

[fozzie]

Glen,

Have you joined ASIO

[Nnnnsic]

I want one (of each).

[birddog114]

Similar spec with the Samsung D500 which I gave to my daughter on her BD.

Glen,
You might be banned if you're showing off the "SONY"

[Glen]

Leigh, probably not much more than the camera you were looking at and you have it with you all the time plus no need for ipod etc

Fozzie, you are right ASIO and the bomb squad always seem to have these toys

[Glen]

Birddy, I was scared to mention the brand Only 1/2 made by them

[wile_E]

Robo cam looks cool. I want one...!!!

[Nnnnsic]

A 2mp box in a phone? I'm betting that'll set me back at least seven or eight hundred.

[sirhc55]

Glen - you are truly a North Shore Man - enjoy your toy

[birddog114]

A 2mp box in a phone? I'm betting that'll set me back at least seven or eight hundred.

Samsung is going to release new model in Australia with 3.1mp by the end of next quarter. and with 128mb built on board of the phone.

[Glen]

Leigh, with Optus if you purchase outright $750, if you are connected to them $550. I got it for the phone (most MP phone on market this week) & organiser, but also is MP3, FM radio, video recorder, etc. I broke a key on my S55 (like you and Gary had) so my need was there. I would imagine other carriers have them as well.

Details here http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp?cc= ... &pid=10242


Chris, North Shore Wanker more accurately. Birddy, I rang Samsung as they have 8mp out overseas but they wouldn't give me a delivery time at all. Would make me laugh to have a phone with more mp than my DSLR. Would force me to get a D2X

[gstark]

Glen,

What's the sound quality like?

I've got my Motorola, but the external screen cracked within a week of getting it (probably my fault) but more significantly, it has some issues in its BT connectivity. I've switched back to the S55 to try to isolate the BT issues to the phone (which I'm confirming) so I don't quite know what to do as yet.

Oh yes, before anyone says anything, the phone section is an Ericssen, and I have no issues there, and as an aside, the best cellphone I've ever used was the Sony CDMA that I had in Dallas.

[Onyx]

A Sony that doesn't use MemoryStick? Could this be a first?

Enjoy your new phone Glen.
I'm content with mine that makes and receives calls. :p

[Nnnnsic]

Alas, Glen was wrong and the horrid MemoryStick Duo is used there.

The phone can be had for a bit over 400 US, apparently.

But the Optus deal, the one I assume Glen got, isn't too shabby (shamelessly ripped from OCAU, thanks Pie_Lad):

$15/mth over 24 months on the $49/$79 caps (2 year contract)
$23/mth over 24 months on the $49/$79 caps (month2month, no contract)
$0 upfront on Yes 75 and above (2 year contract)
$0 upfront on inBusiness 55 and above (2 year contract, customer requires ABN or ACN)
$729 SRP outright

[Glen]

Spot on with the deals Leigh. Gary sound quality is great through the headphones, average when using the speaker eg ringtones. Also Gary, I didn't realise you were using the S55 again, but before i broke mine I downloaded the latest software sw91, i was running sw16, so seems a few upgrades in between. Didn't mention it to you as thought the S55 was a backup phone. http://www.my-siemens.com from memory. Very happy with the Ericsson so far.

Leigh, you are right, the chip was installed and was described as memory SD in some info, I, wrongly, assumed secure digital, alas it is Stick Duo (no wonder they kept it quiet) so memory will cost twice what it should.

Also $46 over 12 months or $552 outright with connection

[Nnnnsic]

Wow.
$552 is tempting... it's cheaper than most places.

I have to weight this up to another Xphone or Smartphone... there's also the Nokia N90 which will compete strongly with the K750 coming out.

[Glen]

Leigh, it seemed ok to me the $552, I took it over 12 months as a matter of principle as they wouldn't give a discount for upfront payment. If you go for the xphone there is a voice recognition program for it which is really worth getting, requires no training and very good, about $60 but I am sure you have your sources

[Nnnnsic]

My reason for wanting the Xphone is that I already have a Smartphone2 and all of the Windows based phones aside for HP's and Motorola's are made by the same company, HTC. So my iMate Smartphone2 will transition perfectly to either an iMate or an XDA based phone... and I'm so used to watching Happy Tree Friends on my phone...

[Matt. K]

Glen
My kid has a $1500 phone with all the bells and whistles. Everytime I ring him the damn thing is switched off. Go figure!

[Onyx]

If the phone uses Memory Stick Duo, the same as a Sony PSP. Once the PSP officially makes it to our shores, demand for larger media should bring the cost of media down comparable with other forms of flash media (Yeah, I think at the moment it is twice as expensive as any other media).

[Nnnnsic]

I just found a thread at MobileBurn with pics of and from this device... not too shabby...

http://forums.mobileburn.com/showthread.php?t=9360

[Glen]

You are right Leigh, not too shabby! Would post a couple of mine but Pixspot is down at the moment. Chi, you are right, I looked at a Sony 2GB memory Stick and it was $1,031 from Harris Technology!! Matt, I know what you mean, I am keeping mine switched on a little longer to get my moneys worth out of it.

I am happy with the phone so far, more computer interface than phone and I prefer phone, but everything works well, screen is clear, sound through headphones is great, ringtone sound average, Camera is ok, gets fooled easy on focus (but have only taken a dozen shots).

[Nnnnsic]

I remember when Memory Stick Duo came out... isn't it compatible with the plain old vanilla version of Memory Stick, as in backwards compatible?

If it is, this might work Glen.

[Geoff]

Glen - you are truly a North Shore Man - enjoy your toy

Priceless!!

Congrats on your new toy, erm I mean phone Glen

[Glen]

Leigh, that is far more reasonable. No rush yet, the phone isn't yet my primary photographic tool I believe it si backwards compartible from something I read in the manual, but there seems to be a few flavours of Memory Stick, compounded by their deceptive way of referring to it as Memory SD, I was sure that meant that the memory is SD (secure digital)

[Nnnnsic]

Glen, you know the 24 in 1 readers... the card readers with the vastly huge numbers of media that don't actually exist? Well, the numbers they use to come up with the logic of the device being something like a "24-in-1" usually come from the amount of revisions Sony has given to Memory Stick over the years.

[Glen]

I know exactly the card readers you mean Leigh, they sell the number as an advantage, when I think who cares except for a guy who works at a digital camera lab, for me the question is "does it do CF?" Not much of a format if Sony need revisions all the time.

[Nnnnsic]

Hence why it's just another reason Dad dislikes Sony.

They could've stuck with something supported by more than just one company like MMC / SD or CF, but nooooo... Sony have to go and be different... and then be the only company that uses the media.

[Glen]

Yes, I tend not to like proprietry formats. Here is an image I shot on the phone as a test



f2.8, 1/40, +.3EV, macro mode and Auto WB because its a phone and I can't be bothered with WB on a phone

[Geoff]

Surprisingly that's not a bad shot, not the technique or owner just the quality...so where is http://www.sonyerricsonphoneusers.com ?

[Glen]

Surprisingly that's not a bad shot, not the technique or owner just the quality...so where is http://www.sonyerricsonphoneusers.com ?

I am waiting till the challenges open up to all brands

[nito]

we should all go retro and bring back those bricks!

Darn, mobile phones have advanced so much.

[ozimax]

Sorry all but I just upgraded phone last week to a shiny new Moto Razr, $0 on an Optus $35 plan, it doesn't do anything (and has an absolutely useless camera) but boy oh boy it looks good and plays Get Smart theme song as ringtone!

Max

[Glen]

Max, methinks you might know a thing or two about mobile phones

[ozimax]

Actually Glen, I work part time for an Optus premium dealer, had my own dealership in Qld a few years ago (Hutchies-Orange), quite a good industry to be in, changes every week or so, but the Maxwell Smart ringtone is a must!

Actually, Motorola are very highly cutomisable (flashable, if you're game) and quite a lot of fun. Nokia has N91 coming out Q4, 4gb HDD, megapixel camera, blurring the distinction between phone/PDA/MP3 player/camera etc.

Still, for photographs, even the best phone camera IMHO is basically a toy, lots of fun but no Nikkor!

Cheers mate,

Max

[Glen]

I agree Max, very much a toy compared to a dslr. I read about the N91, also there was some delay with it. Remembered you said you worked for Optus, so assumed you probably got them for free. Will try for the Maxwell Smart ringtone

[ozimax]

I'll email a few ringtones to you.

[Glen]

Thanks Max

[Nnnnsic]

I'm actually going to look seriously at the K750i (I think Dad will too, but probably only after I've bought one) as our Business plan is coming to an end soon and I'm sure Dad's sick and tired of paying for me, as well as the problem of... my iMate Smartphone2... is almost dead.

It can receive calls, but I hear no sound. I dial people, but yet faint sound on each end. And yet, when I dial voicemail, it's all good. It sends and receives SMS's without a problem. And that whole GPRS glitch in Microsoft's Smartphone OS hasn't made my experience any happier, nor has the 45 second start-up time. The games have been good, the emulation it's capable of has been sweet, and the ability to play Lilo & Stitch and other movies whenever I want has been fun, but since the phone is dying, and from what I understand, I'd have to send it to Queensland (who'd then have to send it Singapore or whatnot) for warranty, I might as well just buy a new phone.

It'll at least be smaller.

The Nokia N91 will be one expensive phone and the Sony Ericsson W800 is exactly the W800 except with a 3.5mm jack (I'll just cut the regular jack off my Sennheiser's ) and the ability to work without the phone on as an mp3 player.
In fact, on some forums, the K750i is being listed as what may be the phone of the year (there are people that judge that?!).

Glen, any hidden crap with the Optus cap?

[ozimax]

Leigh, pardon me butting in here, SE K750i looks like being a good phone, time will tell of course but Sony have definitely lifted their game since Z600 days, Nokia style is not my cup of tea, $49/$79 caps ($230/$500) are cool value if you need that much, $49 gives more ways to spend the credit than the $79.

Max

[Glen]

No, main thing not included in the cap is OS calls but other than that seems ok. Just timed start up, 23 secs, miles better than my last two siemens phones. I am happy but took a while to customise it to my taste (how come it takes two days on phones these days before you can make a call and send an sms?). Small thing I don't like is while the joystick has 4 shortcuts on it which are fully customisable, the two shortcut keys at the bottom have one devoted to Optus Zoo, their internet browser. Haven't yet worked out how to remove that (or if it is possible), will ring SE and find out, the shop doesn't know as I got my phone 8-10 minutes after the truck dropped it off (I live close).

I bought this instead of one of the Smartphone things because of the size, main thing I use is calender so don't require the full catostrophe. Glad to know others think this is phone of the year. Personally, I can't see you and Gary with anything less than phone of the year!

I have friends up from Melbourne this weekend so cant make a minimeet or you could play with it for an hour or two. I would send the other phone in under warranty, always good to have a working reserve.

Might be worth asking Ozimax about Optus pitfalls if any?

[Nnnnsic]

That's ok... no minimeet this week anyway.

And I don't think you can remove the Zoo branding, which is why some people are opting for retail purchasing.

I thought the $49 cap included OS calls, but only up to 50 minutes.

Optus Fair Go™ policy applies: to PTT usage up to 150 minutes per month, international calls up to 50 minutes per month and premium SMS up to $5 a month.

Optus $49 cap

[Nnnnsic]

For those of us who have the K750, we're all probably in the same boat in the opinion that the headphones that come with it really do suck.

So Sony have gotten off their arse and after many delays, you can now buy the HPM-70 unit which lets you plug in either your own cans or headphones into the microphone clip-on or use their supplied what-looks-like Fontopia-lite canalphones.

OrganiserWorld have it listed, however I might take a stroll into mobile phone alley at Westfield tomorrow to see if anyone has it there as I'd prefer not to pay an extra $10 for shipping.

[birddog114]

OrganiserWorld have it listed, however I might take a stroll into mobile phone alley at Westfield tomorrow to see if anyone has it there as I'd prefer not to pay an extra $10 for shipping.

I've been told you're not allowed to go near Westfield with the camera

[gstark]

OrganiserWorld have it listed, however I might take a stroll into mobile phone alley at Westfield tomorrow to see if anyone has it there as I'd prefer not to pay an extra $10 for shipping.

I've been told you're not allowed to go near Westfield with the camera

Leigh's fine in a Westfield, as he hasn't yet figured out how to focus his camera.

[Glen]

Be interested to see what you think Leigh, though the link you provided went to a set of Sony plugs with that model number but look like the ones which came with the phone. Good find

[Nnnnsic]

They are different... they're actually Sony's incarnations of canalphones... which sit in your ear canal comfortably (it's a Sony... comfort may not come into it, but I'm told from many people that Fontopia's are pretty decent) and essentially blocks off most noise.

[Paul]

Here's a story in the SMH about a guy using his K750i instead of his D70 on trips
http://www.smh.com.au/news/livewire/the-grand-tourer/2005/08/23/1124562865699.html

[Nnnnsic]

Dislike that: There is nothing to dislike simply because it is astonishing that it works at all. An optical zoom would be nice.

Huh. They forget to mention the numerous bugs that SonyEricsson continues to deny exist.

[bago100]

Ah .... the wonders of convergent technology.

Soon someone is going to merge a nose hair plucker with a toothbrush with a toothpick accessory with FM and AM capability, with a GPS with a gas fired barbeque with a diesel powered dooverlacker with a whatchamacallit and a thingo.

Of course, once the toothbrush wears out you throw the whole convergent shebang in the bin and buy another.


Cheers
Graham PS - Had a horrible thought for a moment that the word "shebang" might not be politically correct. Think I'll find a manhole and hide for a while