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This one was a real challenge for me. I really liked the composition of this shot, but couldn't work out how to make it work. So I've played a LOT with the image. I think this works really well, but what would I know. Somehow it's the grittiness of the shot that works I think.
I'd be interested in other viewpoints though since I believe that, having invested in a pic, you can sometimes be blinded to it's ordinariness. If you think it's a work of art or a piece of crap I don't care - just say so. Click the pic for a larger version 
Edit: Below are the colour original after basic PP and a lighter, noiseless version. 
 Last edited by stubbsy on Tue Aug 30, 2005 8:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Peter
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Stubbsy
I too like the composition of the photo, but for me, the graininess detracts from the picture (for my liking anyway). I'd also prefer to see a little more detail in the tree trunk (is that what it is  ) as this is the focal point to the image.
It would be interesting to see the original for comparison. Good to see you try something different though. Full marks for your efforts. And I'm not saying it's crap.....this version just doesn't appeal to me  Dave
Nikon D7000 | 18-105 VR Lens | Nikon 50 1.8G | Sigma 70-300 APO II Super Macro | Tokina 11-16 AT-X | Nikon SB-800 | Lowepro Mini Trekker AWII Photography = Compromise
Pete,
I like it, it's a very imaginative treatment. Like Dave, I'm a bit ambivalent about the grain and perhaps the driftwood? monopolises the image a little too much. If I'm alone in a forest and my wife is not around to hear what I say, am I still wrong ??
Dave & John. Thanks for your comments.
I've edited the post to show thecolour original and an earlier B & W version without the grain Peter
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I think I prefer the colour version, but the 2nd B&W pic I find better than the original one posted....IMO
What do you like Stubbsy....that's what counts ! Dave
Nikon D7000 | 18-105 VR Lens | Nikon 50 1.8G | Sigma 70-300 APO II Super Macro | Tokina 11-16 AT-X | Nikon SB-800 | Lowepro Mini Trekker AWII Photography = Compromise
Dave's right, do what YOU want artistically.
that said, I do also prefer the colour. shot with a polarising filter?? Mark Greenmantle
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Honest answer is I really liked the colour version, then thought I'd have some fun doing a B & W conversion. I think my investment theory applied since I now like BOTH versions
 but NOT the noisy one at the top of the post - what a contrary beast 
And, yes, I used a CP filter. Peter
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Hi Peter,
I like the last two. The first one is also too grainy for my liking. It is nice to have more detail in the last 2. I can imagine that it is a beast from Star Wars, coming out of the sand
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Stubbsy, the colour one is my pick.
I find the sand dunes get a bit lost with the cloud in the B&W versions. The colour helps to give the image the depth that my eye wants. Having said that, the PP was definitely worth a go to see how it would turn out. As I recently read (I don't think it was from anyone on this forum - apologies if it was): "If you always do what you've always done, then you'll always get what you've always got." Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Peter, I prefer the colour version myself, although I have to say I am not really grabbed by any of them. Sorry.
Greg - - - - D200 etc
Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see. - Arthur Schopenhauer
Thanks all for the feedback. Greg - no need to be sorry - if you don't like it that's it.
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