Which wide angle lense?

[Kris]

Should I consider for my collection? It's mainly going to to be used in low light at parties (to catch group shots) but I also want to use it for landscape photography.

I don't want to stretch to more than $800 if I can avoid it



Thank you D70er's

[birddog114]

Should I consider for my collection? It's mainly going to to be used in low light at parties (to catch group shots) but I also want to use it for landscape photography.

I don't want to stretch to more than $800 if I can avoid it



Thank you D70er's

Perhaps, you have to wait for the next generation of lens, which made from recycling plastic bag or cardboard.

You can have your dream though.

[dooda]

Have you considered the sigma 30mm 1.4? Go and try it out, depending on the size of the group, it's going to be great for low life...I mean...low light stuff.

I'm sort of looking at the tamron 11-19 right now, 450 US, and waiting to see the 10-18 from Sigma I think it is, all probably usable for low-light, but not like the 1.4. Of course there's the Tokina, the Sigma, and Nikkor all 12-24.

I can't wait to get a wide angle, just a matter of saving the money.

[birddog114]

dooda,
The Sigma 30/1.4 was bashed all over the world, it's not coming up with the standard of Sigma glass, on other side the 30mm focal lenght is closed to 50mm of standard view on DSLR with 1.5x factor.

The Tamron, Sigma or Nikkor (from 11 -24) are not the glasses with lowlight capabilities and they're from f4 upward.

[dooda]

I didn't realize it was bashed, I read one good review on it and that was it. It figures I guess, a 1.4 at that price seemed too good to be true. I understood that it wasn't wide angle, but seems like a 45mm is moderately wide enough for most indoor stuff.

[birddog114]

I didn't realize it was bashed, I read one good review on it and that was it. It figures I guess, a 1.4 at that price seemed too good to be true. I understood that it wasn't wide angle, but seems like a 45mm is moderately wide enough for most indoor stuff.

That was a dream from many Sigma's followers but it finally turned out against their favors.

You won't get much WA for indoor, even with the Nikkor 28/1.4.

[Kris]

damn

Just want to try and be able to take photos at parties and capture a group without standing 10ft back from them... Or go to the motor show and be able to get the entire car in the frame.

[huynhie]

How about the Nikkor 20mm F2.8

or the Nikkor 24mm F2.8

[stubbsy]

Kris

If you have an SB800 then the low light thing isn't an issue (of course if you don't have an SB800 you're outside your budget)

[sirhc55]

In the days of film we used to push film - so why not push your iso - the kit lens at 18mm pushed could get you some worthy shots - or, the 12-24mm pushed iso, etc, etc, et al

[birddog114]

Kris

If you have an SB800 then the low light thing isn't an issue (of course if you don't have an SB800 you're outside your budget)

stubbsy,
He wants something to wrap up under $800.00. Yes, he doesn't have the SB800.
The SB800 as you recommended, it is around $500.00 and left behind $300.00 for a pin hole lens which Glen produced and introduced not long while ago
Glen, have your Sales Dept. opened yet?

[Glen]

Birddy, I was thinking the same, budget isn't quite there yet. I agree with Birddy, for $500 the SB800 is the cheapest low light lens. Not good for candids though.

Not what I would call wide andgle on a DSLR is the 35mm f2, well within your budget and would take good group shots in low light

[Glen]

Kris, have a look at this thread:
http://www.d70users.com/viewtopic.php?t=8192

[Kris]

I havent purchased the SB800 but how would that help me at night taking landscapes! The only reason why I'm hestitant to purchase it is I hear its rather complex to use. Given I'm a newbie the last thing I need is hard to use tools

Glen, ill check that thread now.

[Glen]

Kris, to do landscapes will require at least two SB800s, maybe 3 or 4 for something like the bridge.

Now you know why people own a SB800 and a tripod

[birddog114]

I havent purchased the SB800 but how would that help me at night taking landscapes! The only reason why I'm hestitant to purchase it is I hear its rather complex to use. Given I'm a newbie the last thing I need is hard to use tools

Glen, ill check that thread now.

If you can't afford to have the fast WA lens then the SB800 is so helpful for you to achieve the night shooting indoor with your current setup, it's complicated and not complicated, depend on how you would like to get into the deeper side of it.
Btw, the SB800 can be used as the flashlight for us to look for a restroom at night where we could not see in the dark or no street lights available, and I had use it once same as sheepie.

[Kris]

Hmm

So maybe a SB800 is in order and a Tripod!! I've still got that cruddy cheap one. Perhaps the kit lense will surfice for 'wide' shots

[Kris]

ok, SB800 it is

*looks for a good ebay price*

[Glen]

PM Birddy, best price in town

[stubbsy]

Kris

As has already been pointed out an SB 800 would give you the ability to get the indoor group party shots using a less capable lesn as you referred to in your original post. The big thing is its very versatile. I've had one for a month or so and have not really learned much of its complexity, but I'm already getting a fair amount of utility out of it. One thing easily overlooked is its usefulness in the daytime. There is a recent post of Scott's here where he used fill flash (with an older less sophisticated unit) to great effect in bright daylight.

[Kris]

Good points! hmm

Birddy, how much is a SB800 inc gst delivered

[radar]

Birddy, how much is a SB800 inc gst delivered

Hi Kris,

you have plenty of posts, so you do qualify as a member, so you should be able to check prices in the Bargains section, it's all there and you can also get started on your next lens lusting while you are there :)

If you happen not to have access, just PM one of the admins and they should be able to give you the required access.

Cheers,

Radar

[Kris]

Yep I've got access. I'll take a look now

Thank you Radar

[stubbsy]

Kris

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but have you seen this new thread on SB800 pricing?

[Kris]

Indeed I have. I have found a cheap one on Ebay, from T Dimension.

$389 plus $80 in charges.

Does this sound good?

I'm thinking if I get the SB800 perhaps I can get the Tokina 12-24 F4 lense and use this in combination with my SB800 to give me wide shots for night time use? Or even use the Kit lens indoors with the SB800

[Glen]

The kit will be fine with the SB800

[Kris]

Perfect. I will

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Brand-New-NIKON- ... dZViewItem

Thats the Sb800, look ok?

[birddog114]

Perfect. I will

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Brand-New-NIKON- ... dZViewItem

Thats the Sb800, look ok?

Good luck! and don't scream loud as the Markins 20 head which you ordered from Nikonian.org.

[Kris]

And NEVER arrived. This seller has good feedback

[Glen]

Kris, telling comment about buying from Nikonians

[Kris]

huh??

[birddog114]

Kris, telling comment about buying from Nikonians

Kris,
We want to hear from your experiences, we also have a Nikonian mods on board and few other Nikonians.
Me, I bought one and will never buy from them again and with their membership fees.

[Kris]

This is old news. I did actually post my impressions of Nikonians some time ago - basically don't bother with them. Utterly useless

[Kris]

Just purchased the SB800 - $469 including gst, delivery and insurance

Hopefully it arrives !

[Hutchy]

Going back to wide angle lenses...

I found the information in THIS article brief but informative when comparing current wide angle lenses.

And a good review of the Sigma 10-20mm can be found HERE.

[dooda]

Thanks Hutchy,

For me it's between the Sigma 10-20, and the Tamron 11-18. I like the Tamron for it's weight, and good optical reviews, the sigma is a little extra wide which is nice (but I can't find it anywhere around here yet).

[Hutchy]

Not a problem Dooda.

I soooooo want that Sigma 10-20.... or any of those lenses for that matter! I'm about to do some work on large boats and need something wider than 28 for the cramped interiors. The 12-24 is also tempting as it is a full frame lens and would future proof my investment (if Nikon decide to go with FF sensors) but at double the price I'm not sure if that's the way to go.

[Onyx]

For those after the Sigma 10-20 - I heard thru the grapevine that Paxtons store on George St in Sydney currently have stock, at $AU650 - presumably available with Nikon mount*.


*Disclaimer: I may be wrong.