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by **gstark** on Sat Oct 29, 2005 5:01 pm

Onyx wrote: and gave themselves a marketable pseudonym to boot: the legend of "Digic" chips.

Actually, the Digic chips have little to do with their sensor technilogy, and much to do with the actual signal processing after the image has been captured. These days you'll find digic in pretty well every Canon digicam, from the lowly PHDs through to the DSLRs.

Given that their PHDs use the Sony CCD sensors ....

If this 10MP sensor is CCD, it would be very interesting to compare with D2X's 12MP CMOS in terms of image acuity. I would suspect this could be an of eye opener for some.

Yes, from a PPP (pixel peeping perspective) this may be true. From a real world, let's drop this image onto my printer perspective, thter's probably less to, er, be seen.

by **sirhc55** on Sun Oct 30, 2005 2:00 pm

The following site indicates that there will be a power grip available for the D200 - enjoy:

http://www.dearingfilm.com/d200.html

by **Michael** on Sun Oct 30, 2005 2:16 pm

Looks mighty tasty.

also expensive.

by **birddog114** on Sun Oct 30, 2005 2:19 pm

It looks similar to the MB-D100 to me! battery pack and vertical grip of the D100.

Who knows, the MB-D100 may fits.

by **gstark** on Sun Oct 30, 2005 2:32 pm

I'm intrigued.

Look at the topview of the D200 - look at the hotshoe.

The contacts for the flash, apart from the external ground, appear to be there, but they're black. Some form of carbon contact???

by **DaveB** on Sun Oct 30, 2005 3:31 pm

gstark wrote:The contacts for the flash, apart from the external ground, appear to be there, but they're black. Some form of carbon contact???

I'd say it's much more likely that this was a pre-production mockup and the metal contacts were missing. Those look like they could be holes in the plastic where the contacts will go.

by **johndec** on Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:17 pm

Has anyone else noticed that the D200 is probably going to be announced on the same day that the Melbourne cup is run? Also has anyone else noticed that the cost of said camera is approximately the usual Trifecta dividend?

Coincidence :?:

I think not...

Better start studying the form :lol:

by **Michael** on Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:36 pm

If the rumoured price is true IF it is when it comes out, I think I might just bight the bullet and keep saving for the D2X.

by **Nnnnsic** on Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:49 pm

Michael wrote:If the rumoured price is true IF it is when it comes out, I think I might just bight the bullet and keep saving for the D2X.

Nikon Asia really need to start taking notice (again) of the way Maxwell over-charge in Australia.

by **johndec** on Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:19 pm

Nnnnsic wrote:Nikon Asia really need to start taking notice (again) of the way Maxwell over-charge in Australia.

So why not flick Maxwell and buy through Poon? Using the US RRP ($1700) as a guide:

D200 = AUD 2270.00 (todays exchange rate) + shipping AUD80.00 + GST AUD 235 = $2585.00. That's a $1315 better deal than Maxwell :shock:

As far as warranty issues go, Mr Poon has proved himself to be a man of integrity and so I have no concerns that he would honour any warranty issues that might arise. Anyway with the money you saved by not buying from Maxwell, you can buy a D70s body to keep you snapping whilst your D200 is flying to HK and back :lol:

by **sirhc55** on Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:22 pm

My guess is 1st November announcement date :roll:

by **johndec** on Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:24 pm

sirhc55 wrote:My guess is 1st November announcement date

Chris,
Quit "horsing" around, I beat you to the "post" fair and square!!!

by **BBJ** on Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:30 pm

All i can say about the whole subject is will wait till it is fair dinkhum and on site. If warranty was such an issue on some of tese bodies i gather Poon would sell a lot. So we all have to put up with Maxwell prices, what choice have we got, but yeh will be interesting, time will tell.

by **Michael** on Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:31 pm

To be 100% honest I'm more interested in the release of the complete star wars dvd box set containing every single speck of every single episode.

Now THAT is something worth waiting for!

by **BBJ** on Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:35 pm

So Michael, you would love to get loose in a room like this then?

by **Michael** on Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:01 pm

Definatly! however if i could have just one thing from star wars just ONE thing.

It'd have to be a wookie suit that fit me, now that would be on par with getting a D2X given to me.

by **BBJ** on Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:04 pm

Well my mate hasn;t got 1 off them but does have a couple of full storm trooper costumes and dark Vader's as well, he is a finatic as you can see, of this is just hit computer room.LOL

by **sirhc55** on Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:09 pm

johndec wrote:
sirhc55 wrote:My guess is 1st November announcement date

Chris,
Quit "horsing" around, I beat you to the "post" fair and square!!!

Just a reiteration :wink:

by **Onyx** on Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:13 am

More sexy shots of this sexy beast they call the D200, along with some sexy accessories. The grip however looks a bit fake - reminds me too much of third party grips for the D70.

http://www.kosoof.com/archive/2005/Oct/29/335.php

17-55 and D200 = a match made in heaven (at least visually, IMHO)!
http://www.kosoof.com/photo/00191-02-nikon-d200.jpg

Johndec - I like your conspiracy theory, so care to share your winning lottery ticket of trifecta choices?

by **d70_n00b** on Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:35 am

In case anyone missed the original D200 leak, here's a link to someone hosting the flash file:

http://www.christianmusicianradio.com/d200/

Also, I noticed someone mention wondering why Ken "I saw it in a shop window once" Rockwell hadn't done a review yet... :lol:

actually: http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d200.htm

It's not really a review so much as a reiteration of the leaked specs, but it DOES have quite a few HUGE pics of the D200 with the 18 - 200mm AFS-VR f/3.5 - 5.6G. Pretty cool.

by **MHD** on Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:59 am

droooooool!
http://www.kosoof.com/photo/00191-04-nikon-d200.jpg

by **Raskill** on Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:03 am

An 18-200mm would be a nice focal length.

Having just spent the last four days changing lenses at a rally (of all places to have to do this) I got well and truly sick of it. A 70-200 might be good for some shots, but you quickly find yourself to close to the action, and cropping out some of your intended image.

I want that new lens and a D200, because I also found three frames a second way to slow to quickly capture fast action.

I guess I want my cake, and a chance to eat it to.

Bring on this new camera. I'll buy one. But not from bloddy maxwell though, they can stick their prices where the SB800 dont shine.

by **johndec** on Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:34 am

Onyx wrote:More sexy shots of this sexy beast they call the D200, along with some sexy accessories. The grip however looks a bit fake - reminds me too much of third party grips for the D70.

http://www.kosoof.com/archive/2005/Oct/29/335.php

17-55 and D200 = a match made in heaven (at least visually, IMHO)!
http://www.kosoof.com/photo/00191-02-nikon-d200.jpg

Johndec - I like your conspiracy theory, so care to share your winning lottery ticket of trifecta choices?

Some more pics from kosoof:

http://www.kosoof.com/archive/2005/Oct/31/336.php

Is it possible to tell the difference between a CMOS and a CCD visually by looking at the wires leading from it?

EDIT: Above URL is down. Try here instead:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=15650323

by **marcotrov** on Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:39 am

I just hope when the full specs come out it's all that we want it to be or in most part anyway. I would really like improve ISO band (say 100-1600) with better noise characteristics(cleaner image at high ISO), 1/500sec flash synch, better capture rate of raw files before lockout. If not may consider waiting and continue to save.

I must admit though it does look attractive, especially with the grip. :wink:

cheers
marco

by **Grev** on Mon Oct 31, 2005 4:28 pm

Nnnnsic wrote:I wish I could tell what I know.

But I can't.

DON'T TEASE!! :cry:

by **Nnnnsic** on Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:13 pm

Grev wrote:
Nnnnsic wrote:I wish I could tell what I know.

But I can't.

DON'T TEASE!!

Sorry. I have an NDA to protect. :cry:

by **johndec** on Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:25 pm

Nnnnsic wrote:
Grev wrote:
Nnnnsic wrote:I wish I could tell what I know.

But I can't.

DON'T TEASE!!

Sorry. I have an NDA to protect.

When does the NDA expire? :lol:

by **Nnnnsic** on Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:27 pm

johndec wrote:When does the NDA expire?

When it does, I'll post my review.

by **johndec** on Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:33 pm

Nnnnsic wrote:
johndec wrote:When does the NDA expire?

When it does, I'll post my review.

Would it happen to be 1/11/05 at 1900 UTC (6am Wednesday morning Sydney time) :shock:

by **Nnnnsic** on Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:36 pm

Look, I'm not allowed to divulge much of anything, all that I can say is it's an optics device we'll all probably be interested in and if the production model gets to me before my NDA expires, I'll be able to review it.

by **sirhc55** on Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:53 pm

For those who can read Italian:

http://www.nital.it/press/2005/d200.php

by **MCWB** on Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:11 pm

From Babelfish, the nice things for me:

10,2 MP
ISO: 100-1600 in steps of 1/3, 1/2 or 1 EV with ulterior formulations until 1 EV beyond 1600 (especially interested in those ulterior formations )
RGB histogram
Fixed Pentaprism view-finder ~95% coverage (horizontal and vertical)
Nikon Multi-CAM 1000
Battery grip: (optional) with one or two reloadable batteries Nikon EN-EL3e or six alkaline batteries AA (LR6), NiMH (HR6), to lithium (FR6) or nickel-manganese (ZR6)

Sounds positively yummy. Is it a conincidence that my tax refund plus postgrad support allowance = $3000?

by **marcotrov** on Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:16 pm

It just so happens Chris that being the ol' mother tongue :lol:

Well this is by far the most comprehensive of the specs released.
*ISO 100 -1600 and H1 0f 3200 (wonder how noise is handled?) It gives this a rap. This sounds great

*the intro is typical spin from nikon about the princess of nikons Japanese DSLR lineup
*37 jpeg fine and 22 Raw at 5fps
*unfortunately a new design cam1000 not the D2X cam2000 still a lot better than D70
*excellent contrast luminosity and colour reproduction of the 3D color matrix11
* 30000 programmed scenes used to develop exposure quickly and accurately
* a new pass optical filter to reduce CA and moire effects and improves resolving power
* new modes to optimise image quality
* wireless ability and socket for use of studio strobes/lights
* 50ms shutter release and ready ofr action again

I'll read on after this quick glance.
cheers
marco

by **birddog114** on Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:53 pm

MCWB wrote:From Babelfish, the nice things for me:

10,2 MP
ISO: 100-1600 in steps of 1/3, 1/2 or 1 EV with ulterior formulations until 1 EV beyond 1600 (especially interested in those ulterior formations )
RGB histogram
Fixed Pentaprism view-finder ~95% coverage (horizontal and vertical)
Nikon Multi-CAM 1000
Battery grip: (optional) with one or two reloadable batteries Nikon EN-EL3e or six alkaline batteries AA (LR6), NiMH (HR6), to lithium (FR6) or nickel-manganese (ZR6)

Sounds positively yummy. Is it a conincidence that my tax refund plus postgrad support allowance = $3000?

MCWB,
Have you just revived + survived? :lol:

Who will get your Tax refunds + Postgrad support allowance? You have another chance to say it again :lol:

I think you're upper the limit now my friend! Be nice with Glady and she'll do you a favour :lol:

by **Zeeke** on Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:06 pm

Suprising they are getting anywhere those wacky italians.... they are still listing the D2hs as new

http://www.europe-nikon.com/category.as ... 7&catId=91

Tim

by **Matt. K** on Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:11 pm

It's the quality of the shutter I am now interested in. Does it go "clunk" like a Volvo door or "clankity chink" like a Lada?

by **sirhc55** on Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:47 pm

Zeeke wrote:Suprising they are getting anywhere those wacky italians.... they are still listing the D2hs as new

http://www.europe-nikon.com/category.as ... 7&catId=91

Tim

My D2Hs is new :wink:

by **johndec** on Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:09 pm

The Italian Nikon Distributor has/had released the specs early. This may be of interest :lol:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=15656077

by **kipper** on Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:13 pm

MultiCAM 1000.....so Nikon has produced another AF system so we now have CAM900 (5pt), CAM1000 (11pt), CAM1300 (5pt) and CAM2000 (11pt).

I bet MultiCAM 1000 is a butchered version of MultiCAM 2000, and is somewhere in between CAM900 and CAM2000.

Sigh....guess the D2X is back on the books if the test runs of this camera sucks.

by **marcotrov** on Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:18 pm

Apparently here are photos from D200
http://www.fotoflip.nl/Galleries/WalkingAround/index.html
cheers
marco

by **johndec** on Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:23 pm

kipper wrote:That's fucking gay.

MultiCAM 1000.....so Nikon has produced another AF system so we now have CAM900 (5pt), CAM1000 (11pt), CAM1300 (5pt) and CAM2000 (11pt).

I bet MultiCAM 1000 is a butchered version of MultiCAM 2000, and is somewhere in between CAM900 and CAM2000.

Sigh....guess the D2X is back on the books if the test runs of this camera sucks.

Calm down Kipper :lol:

The is no evidence that because 1000 is a lower number than 2000 or 1300 for that matter that the AF is inferior... Perhaps Nikon have decided to change the numbering system for their AF? I would guess that in performance it is way above CAM900 and falls somewhere between 1300 and 2000. They were never going to give the D200 the same AF as the D2x, otherwise no one would cough up the extra thousands for the "flagship" camera.

by **sirhc55** on Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:30 pm

The range of Nikon digital SLR’s is produced to fit into a price bracket and as such the criteria for usage is determined by this price.

Kipper - if you require CAM2000 you have the choice of the D2X or D2Hs (and D2H) add to that the other criteria required, such as pixel count or mirror lock up and eventually you will arrive at the model you require.

With your already acquired 500mm lens (+TC), Wimberley Sidekick etc - the answer is obvious - the D2X :lol:

by **kipper** on Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:31 pm

CAM1000 while has 11AF sensors like the D2X, it has less cross sensors from what I can see.

by **kipper** on Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:32 pm

I know Chris, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. All I need to do now is take up blagging!

by **sirhc55** on Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:33 pm

Kipper - maybe you and I should do an ”Oceans 2” :wink:

by **kipper** on Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:36 pm

If I could ever pick up a D2X for $4-5k I might consider doing it. However it won't be for another 4-6months.

by **Potatis** on Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:40 pm

Matt. K wrote:Does it go "clunk" like a Volvo door or "clankity chink" like a Lada?

Unfortunately that's not the kind of technical information Nikon typically lists in the specs. :lol:

You'll have to wait longer, until someone can review it.

by **sirhc55** on Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:44 pm

The D2Hs has a shutter sound like ”Metal Storm” - another great Australian killing machine :roll:

by **johndec** on Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:50 pm

Things that look good (not counting things you would assume):
ISO 100 to 1600 +HI 1 (3200) - assuming noise demons under control
Lots of WB options
2.5" LCD
Pentaprism not pentamirror
Viewfinder up there with D2 series - BIG PLUS
MLU - Another big plus
Vertical grip
Same battery (size) as D70 - my spare wont go to waste
ISO in VF
23 shot (NEF) buffer at 5fps - a huge leap compared to the D70
Picture Project CD - this camera comes with a free beer coaster!!

So-So or Bad:
Compressed NEF only - thought we might get an option there
"Only" 95% VF coverage - still better than D70
CAM 1000. What is it exactly. Will read reviews with interest
Only 1/250 flash sync. Can't understand why a CCD suddenly can't do 1/500

by **Link** on Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:06 pm

The US price looks really good, sort of cheaper of what I expected...

Regarding the camera itself, I guess it will come down to image quality at high ISO, viewfinder clarity, and AF performance.

Link.

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