best glue to fix monopod

[wendellt]

Hi

I broke my monopod

the top plate has a pipe in about 2cm high that fits snug inside the carbon fibre pipe, the attachment is joined by some kind of adhesive resin to keep the top plate in place.

I snapped it off intact while testig it's durability. The glue bit looks liek it just dried out and thus acceptable to snapping I would like to glue the top plate back into the carbon fibre pipe.

what is the best type glue to use? exact brand and type

thankyou in advance

I also snapped my previous manmfrotto bogen tripod at the snapin brace glued it back together, but now it has snapped off again, chuck it or try to fix it?

[Heath Bennett]

I'm sorry Wendellt but I found your post bloody entertaining.

And I'm also sorry that I don't know what kind of glue.

Sorry

[kipper]

LOlOLOLolOoLOloollOllOLol!

[big pix]

Very very very strong glue....... or start to use the gym equiptment ........':lol:'

[redline]

while testig it's durability

care to elaborate ?

[Paul]

MIG/TIG welder?

[Matt. K]

You can make a wonderful glue from mixing water and flour to a smooth paste.

Seriously though....superglue will do the trick.

[Alex]

Very very very strong glue....... or start to use the gym equiptment ........':lol:'

Do you mean Wendellt should STOP using gym equipment
?
Alex

[Glen]

Wendell, first question, did it pass the durability testing?


I would suggest something like araldite to glue steel and CF but really not sure. If you think it needs more, especially to survive more durability testing, I would suggest screwing or bolting it as well, but be careful to drill the CF first and seal the edges with resin or something like araldite to stop it fraying.

Good luck

[Paul]

So Wendell,
Have you tested the durability of the D2X and the 70-200VR mounting ring?
Let me know how much you can bend it before it snaps..
And please post the pictures if the camera still works

[Matt. K]

Wendell, Glen,
I meant to suggest Araldite...not superglue. Superglue and I have never repaired a solitary break.

[Geoff]

So Wendell,
Have you tested the durability of the D2X and the 70-200VR mounting ring?
Let me know how much you can bend it before it snaps..
And please post the pictures if the camera still works

lol

[LOZ]

Wendell leave them at birbdogs and I will see if our engineering department can fix them birdy has my mobile no LOZ

[big pix]

Very very very strong glue....... or start to use the gym equiptment ........':lol:'

Do you mean Wendellt should STOP using gym equipment
?
Alex

instead of using his camera equiptment to test his strengh......... I have never broken a monopod or tripod in 40 years....... but give me a bit more time

[Alpha_7]

Where's Joet and wife to defend poor Wendell ?

RIP Monopod!

[MattC]

Wendell

You could use 24 hr Araldite if gluing a metal tube into the carbon tube (I am not exactly sure of what you are left with), but be aware that Araldite is right at the very bottom when it comes to epoxies - it is far to brittle (low elongation - stretch it just a little and it breaks) for real strength.
You could try your local custom fishing rod builder (not the average tackle & bait shop). These guys (the reputable ones anyway) use the good gear. It has been about 5 years since building my last rod so I cannot give you a brand - things change. While you are there you could ask about getting them to repair it, bind it and finish it- those bindings add an incredible amount of strength at a join. If the guts of the head (only 2cm depth... yikes!!) is breaking the adhesive out of the tube under load the tube is probably becoming ovalised, so the extra hoop strength from the binding will definitely help. Maybe add a grip too.... custom monopod.

Having said all of that, you must be particularly cruel to your monopods

Cheers

[gstark]

Matt,

He was trying to convert it into a tripod.

Now it's mourno-pod.

[samester]

G'day mate,

Can't see why you shouldn't be able to glue the pieces back together.

Main thing is to ensure both pieces are thoroughly cleaned and all old glue residue removed. Then you should probably lightly scuff the glue contact points with some sand paper and clean again.

You could use a 2 part epoxy adhesive, something with a longer cure time, araldite is probably easiest - use 24 hr araldite rather than 5 minute araldite though.

You could also try using some sikaflex, i've used it in the past - quite flexible/elastic and strong - can't remember if it's sikaflex 291 or 292 however.

Cheers,
Sam

[MattC]

Matt,

He was trying to convert it into a tripod.

Now it's mourno-pod.

[moggy]

You should set yourself up as an independent stress tester to the photographic industry Wendell, you could make a mint!

Bob.

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[Nnnnsic]

I'd suggest that you stop breaking your equipment.

Perhaps you should stress test your equipment by... I don't know (well, actually I do)... PUTTING A CAMERA ON IT AND USING IT!!!

You stress test a computer by using it, likewise a piece of equipment for your camera should be no different.

[birddog114]

Bloody hell!

He brought the mono pod to the mini meet on Saturday, the first part (top) of the mono pod came off its tube due to the heavy strenght he put on it, made everyone at the mini meet laughed, first laugh at the early time of the mini meet, and it was fun to see him demonstrated how the top of the mono pod came apart.

He used a Manfrotto ballhead, heavy, (weighted nearly 10kgs) the military used this one to mount the 50 cal. on the APC or the Abrams tank bulky, then he mounted his D2x on the head and shooting in many times.

I adviced him before once I saw he put the BH-55 Pro on the mono pod, the BH-55 Pro is not designed to use for any mono pod, but then he switched & used the more heavy head than the BH-55Pro.

The top part of the mono pod came off due to the heavy head (not designed to use with) and the D2x + the way he used it when shooting or walking on the street, if you happen seeing him on Sydney's street or train, you will meet the guy with a monopod and tripod hanging around his body + bags + camera and few other toys, he's one of the street shooter, I believe!

I told him to use Epoxy (two parts) to put it back together, and required to do it properly as cleaning and patience in waiting it drying. I asked him to leave it here for me to do it for him but he said: I can do it!

Yesterday, he rang me, I nearly got the heart attack firstly, I thought he letting me know he wrecked his brand new 70-200VR, but not yet and am on standing by. Thanks God!!!!!!

[MattC]

Bloody hell! ......

Ah ha, the full story! I think that have got a length of rock drill (heavy ht steel tube) from the mines lying around.

Cheers

[kipper]

A tilt head (eg. Bogen model #3232/Manfrotto #234) or if you're using telephotos (eg. 200, 300, 400, 500, 600) a clamp should be used mounted directly to the pod (no head). From what I understand is that due to the small amount of tilt movement being so large with long telephotos that a ballhead isn't required.

I'd never mount anything like the Markins M-10/M-20 or RRS BH-40, BH-55 to a monopod. Even if it was the most sturdiest of Gitzos.

Well this is what RRS recommends anyway, and as I don't have a monopod (even though I should) it sounds about right. When I used Fozzies at the AAW I pretty much locked the ballhead and just tilted the monopod.

[birddog114]

A tilt head (eg. Bogen model #3232/Manfrotto #234) or if you're using telephotos (eg. 200, 300, 400, 500, 600) a clamp should be used mounted directly to the pod (no head). From what I understand is that due to the small amount of tilt movement being so large with long telephotos that a ballhead isn't required.

That what I always recommended our members when we talk about monopod and head, but people still wants to use the bulky ballhead with 50 or 85mm lens on a monopod.

I'd never mount anything like the Markins M-10/M-20 or RRS BH-40, BH-55 to a monopod. Even if it was the most sturdiest of Gitzos.

Who's going to argue with you about this?

[huynhie]

Sorry to hear about you monopod Wendell. Hopefully the alradite should bring it back to life.

may I suggest next time not to buy the equipement offered by Birddog as it appears that they do not meet your tough requirements. I suggest going straight to see these guys

metalstorm



seriously, abit of araldite and patience should fix your monopod. Just remember not to mount it that way in future.

[Yedrup]

Sorry to hear of your problems Wendell. I don't know if you have found an adhesive yet or not but I asked friend of mine who is into cycle racing using carbon fibre with aluminium equipment. He recommends that you take care selecting what adhesive you use as some can weaken carbon fibre. His recommendation was to use an Araldite in the 2000 range preferably Araldite 2015.

I think if it is suitable for someone riding a bicycle at up to 100 kph it would be okay for someone stress testing photographic equipment.

Cheers,
Terry

[big pix]

Sorry to hear of your problems Wendell. I don't know if you have found an adhesive yet or not but I asked friend of mine who is into cycle racing using carbon fibre with aluminium equipment. He recommends that you take care selecting what adhesive you use as some can weaken carbon fibre. His recommendation was to use an Araldite in the 2000 range preferably Araldite 2015.

I think if it is suitable for someone riding a bicycle at up to 100 kph it would be okay for someone stress testing photographic equipment.

Cheers,
Terry

Push ups using a monopod is not recommend........

[marcotrov]

Wendell i'm trying not to see the humour in what has happened because I know it can be traumatic (for monopod too ), sorry wendell, slip up.

I agree you have 3 choices to repair IMO. In all cases however bonding 2 different type surfaces can be tricky but certainly cleaning both surfaces with cleaning fluid to get any grease etc from both surfaces to
1) Use 24 hr araldite but it dries very hard needs a good couple of days to really cure, not much flexibility
2) Loctite 401 very strong almost insantaneous oncontct enough time to squeeze together, stuff I use to make my carbon fibre arrows and there is alot of kinetic energy stored in my arrows!
3) Black sikaflex, deadly, messy and a little give

Probably contact one of those hardware places for advice too there may be product i'm not aware of as yet
cheers and good luck
marco

[wendellt]

Hi guys and gals

thankyou for your invaluable support and friendly jives
today is quite busy so i can't reply to everyone's comments right now

1. I am silly
2. there is method to my sillyness
3. I will get araldite 24hour 2 piece poxy adhesive from somewhere
4. learnt my lesson, buy things that suit each other
5. I needed monopod today tonight and tomorrow for events i am shooting birdy so could not leave it at the minmeet, next one perhaps
6. loz thanks for offer will drp of my manfrotto tripod at hte next meet

[r2160]

I actually glue carbon fibre and aluminium/steel quite often believe it or not.

the best stuff I have found is a product called "JB Weld". It is a metallized epoxy that is designed for gluing metal, carbon fibre etc.

You can also get some stuff called "Cold Weld" at your automotive supply shop which is more or less the same stuff.

Glenn

[joet]

Chryssine and myself have had a high-level conference concerning wendellt's current dilemma and come to the following comclusions:

* the forum would not be the same without wendell's problems to solve

* although it is easy to make mock, he is, after all, acting as a forward scout, leading the way into areas where only the brave will venture

* Chryssine thinks he is lovely

Please consider this as a statement of support

[Jonesy]

Please consider this as a statement of support

and so the campaign begins

[Glen]

Joe, what would Chryssine say to you if you busted something expensive just for "durability testing"?

[joet]

Glen,

It's unprintable because it would probably be in Greek

However, it's been my experience over a long marriage that if I do something like that, I'm in deep trouble, but if it's one of the boys (sons, grandsons, adopted sons etc), that's perfectly OK and part of their learning process

Needless to say, this "learning process" has cost me a great deal of pain and expense

But, I no complain

[sirhc55]

OH κανένα όχι πάλι

[Glen]

Glen,

But, I no complain