Bad noises about iPods

[birddog114]

Another bad apple from Apple.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/b ... 42851.html

I've told ya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RIP

[DionM]

To be honest, I really wonder why they don't make them stronger.

I mean, yes you should not drop them, but they should be able to stand up to a small, accidental fall.

My first mobile phone back in the mid-90s - I dropped it once and smashed it. These days, I've lost count of how many times I've dropped my phone, or left it on the roof of the car and drove off, etc. Still works fine!

[thaddeus]

I bought a car MP3 player from Jaycar.
http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=GE4030
It's the size of a cigarette lighter. You plug it into the cigarette lighter socket, then plug in a USB thumb drive and it plays your MP3s in the car.

I haven't dropped it because it just stays plugged in to the cigarette lighter.
Being a radio transmitter, the quality isn't that great for music, but I have set up a little script to download all my podcasts into the thumb drive before I go out. So I've created a robust Ipod-style car setup without an Ipod!

[birddog114]

I bought a car MP3 player from Jaycar.
http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=GE4030
It's the size of a cigarette lighter. You plug it into the cigarette lighter socket, then plug in a USB thumb drive and it plays your MP3s in the car.

I haven't dropped it because it just stays plugged in to the cigarette lighter.
Being a radio transmitter, the quality isn't that great for music, but I have set up a little script to download all my podcasts into the thumb drive before I go out. So I've created a robust Ipod-style car setup without an Ipod!

Yes, my son has one of this similar devices! it works great for him.
I went to Bankstown AP yesterday to look at the near new Cessna delivered to my friend last week, he pulled one of these devices and plugged it into his Cessna's intrument panel intergrated with its communication thru headsets.

[losfp]

This is OLD news

Only affected a small number of the Nanos, and that got resolved pretty quickly I think. Sucks if you were one of the affected ones though of course. What I've found with Apple is that although the products are pretty good, on the whole, Apple AUSTRALIA's support and service is pretty lousy if you happen to need warranty work done. Apparently Apple US is pretty good.

I've not had any problems with either of my iPods (3G and 2G), and I've had them for 2 and 3 years respectively. They've been dropped, scraped, knocked about, and still going strong Fantastic mp3 players - people get upset when they think they are something that they really are not!! They're not a radio, or a video player, or even a particularly effective way of storing your digital photos on the road.

But damn it, the iPod is the best mp3 player on the market (IMO)

(as long as you don't get a lemon, in which case you're screwed, thanks to Apple Aus)

[birddog114]

This is OLD news

No, it's on SMH today, never seen or heard it before.

[DionM]

The biggest drawback for me with the iPods is the fact they are tied to iTunes. I hate iTunes. Clunky, inefficient and stupid player. I only have it to run my wife's iPod shuffle.

Example - If you delete the music out of it (like I did when I moved my music drive from d: to f: on my PC) it then wants to delete songs off the iPod. Why??? I didn't delete them, I just moved them.

But I do admit that the current set of iPods is spec'd and priced very well. I think they are all great examples of engineering. Pity about iTunes!

[losfp]

This is OLD news

No, it's on SMH today, never seen or heard it before.

http://www.macworld.com/news/2005/09/27 ... /index.php

From September

Ah, I don't like the small iPods anyway, not enough space for my massive music collection Always go for the full-sized iPods!

[losfp]

The biggest drawback for me with the iPods is the fact they are tied to iTunes. I hate iTunes. Clunky, inefficient and stupid player. I only have it to run my wife's iPod shuffle.

Example - If you delete the music out of it (like I did when I moved my music drive from d: to f: on my PC) it then wants to delete songs off the iPod. Why??? I didn't delete them, I just moved them.

But I do admit that the current set of iPods is spec'd and priced very well. I think they are all great examples of engineering. Pity about iTunes!

Must be a personal preference thing because I love iTunes You have to set up your preferences right in the application, then it won't do unexpected things. I think it defaults to syncing your iPod with your library and vice versa... I always turn that off straightaway because my iPod's 30GB capacity doesn't play nicely with my 80GB music library!

Oh, and you're not tied to iTunes at all... Try Ephpod, it's not too bad.

D'oh.. I once promised myself that I wouldn't get into another iPod debate.. it's like PCs vs Macs, or Canon vs Nikon, or PAL vs NTSC, or TOS vs TNG... No one ever wins any of those arguments

[birddog114]

This is OLD news

No, it's on SMH today, never seen or heard it before.

http://www.macworld.com/news/2005/09/27 ... /index.php

From September

Ah, I don't like the small iPods anyway, not enough space for my massive music collection Always go for the full-sized iPods!

Yes, the Fair Trading Office has just warned people who's planning to give an iPod as Xmas present due to its quality, service and difficulty to get the refunds from Apple.

[birddog114]

And even this problems has been discovered since Sept 05 but Apple still not resolve the issues nor rectifying all their lacking of services and goodwills.
That made the Office of Fair Trading jump-in with the heat.

[Greg B]

I think the old news is that some iPod models have problems.

The new news is that consumers with faulty iPods are being stuffed around, and there are a lot of complaints at consumer affairs.

[DionM]

Oh, and you're not tied to iTunes at all... Try Ephpod, it's not too bad.

Thanks, I'll have a look at Ephpod ...

[losfp]

I think the old news is that some iPod models have problems.

The new news is that consumers with faulty iPods are being stuffed around, and there are a lot of complaints at consumer affairs.

Nah, I reckon that's old news too I've even spoken to a number of Apple resellers, all of whom hate Apple Aus! They sell the products because they like them, but can't stand dealing with AA.

My fiancée has had the most ungodly amount of trouble dealing with them for faults with her iBook. I must be lucky, never had a problem with any of my Apple stuff

[birddog114]

I think the old news is that some iPod models have problems.

The new news is that consumers with faulty iPods are being stuffed around, and there are a lot of complaints at consumer affairs.

Nah, I reckon that's old news too I've even spoken to a number of Apple resellers, all of whom hate Apple Aus! They sell the products because they like them, but can't stand dealing with AA.

My fiancée has had the most ungodly amount of trouble dealing with them for faults with her iBook. I must be lucky, never had a problem with any of my Apple stuff

So, the old and new news are about the bad reputation of Apple.
People, who buys Apple's products are just trying their luck! by not dealing with the services and goodwills from Apple.

[birddog114]

And will anyone still trust and buy goods from a bad name traders/ manufacturers?

[sirhc55]

iPods causing problems How about BGLOD, batteries that might explode, etc - every manufacturer has duds and problems but it is generally the distributor who is the major problem

[birddog114]

iPods causing problems How about BGLOD, batteries that might explode, etc - every manufacturer has duds and problems but it is generally the distributor who is the major problem

Yes, BLGOD is an issue, but Nikon is happy to fix or give you the quick resolution, on other side, Apple is not willing to do, that why the Office of Fair Trading is getting involved with.

And yes, all manufacturers or their products may not all perfectly but at least they do something to help and win back the heart of the consumers.

Apple is not

[marcotrov]

I agree Birddog I bought 2 ipods for my kids and both heated up and froze stopped working. They gave me all the guff under the sun. That's no way to treat customers or look after their reputation
cheers
marco

[stubbsy]

Oh, and you're not tied to iTunes at all... Try Ephpod, it's not too bad.

Thanks, I'll have a look at Ephpod ...

Or Media Centre if you have Windows.

[stubbsy]

And will anyone still trust and buy goods from a bad name traders/ manufacturers?

Hands up every person running a Microsoft product

[petal666]

The article isn't about apple it is about the resellers not holding up their end of the warranty chain. If you buy an ipod from some place other than the apple website or nextbyte then you don't get as good a service. i've never had any warranty issues through nextbyte.

[birddog114]

The article isn't about apple it is about the resellers not holding up their end of the warranty chain. If you buy an ipod from some place other than the apple website or nextbyte then you don't get as good a service. i've never had any warranty issues through nextbyte.

Is it confirmed how 's the relationship between Apple's resellers with Apple and its Direct Online Store?
If it's the case then Apple doesn't need and require any of their reseller channels! It's sad to know the other side of Apple

[sirhc55]

This is a case of relating to our own personal experiences. I have never had problems with Sony, Apple, Nikon, Onkyo etc - BUT - if I did have problems, I would probably be the same as anyone else who has had a lemon.

Let’s face it, there are people on this forum that would knock Dell, IBM, HP et al - but there are also those who do not knock these products and are, in fact, very happy.

Each to their own

[Hybrid]

Wise words Chris...

I've never owned anything from Apple, although I'm quite tempted by OS X the more I see of it.

Anyway, the iPod Nano appears to be harder to break than you might expect:

http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/nano.ars/3

Stephen

[Steffen]

And will anyone still trust and buy goods from a bad name traders/ manufacturers?

Apple is definitely no stranger to QA problems. There have been battery issues with previous iPod generations (ridiculously short battery life), overheating and fan noise problems with iBooks and PowerBooks, numerous issues with G5 PowerMacs, Bluetooth keyboards, video cables, etc, etc.

Will people continue to buy Apple gear? You bet! After all, an estimated 80+ percent of desktop PCs is still running some sort of MS Windows. A product family that makes the Lada Niva look like the Nikon F of cars...

Consumers buy what they are told to buy. Period. Descerning buyers are turning more and more into an insignificant minority

Cheers
Steffen.

[petal666]

People still buy dell laptops, ho wmany battery recalls have they had?

[birddog114]

If you had a bad expriences from bad traders on ebay or elsewhere, will you come back to buy from them?

Comsumers today are looking a real damm bargain all over the place, even in the small amount of one or two bucks

People have to go back to Apple stores or sources, coz there's no other competitors and consumers had no choice.

For IBM, Dell, Sony etc.......
There're a good and bad stories mixed, depending what and how.
You'll buy from a bad traders or manufactures:
- Yes, if you have no other choices
- Yes, if you want to try out your luck.
- Yes, It's so cheap than other competitors.
- Yes, You have met or talked to a good saleman, who knows how to handle your objections.
- Yes, You don't care

[nodabs]

i work in a hop that was an apple reseller but we stopped partially because the products wheren't up to scratch and partially because of apple themselves> the reason resellers might be slow at warranties is because you can't get an answer out of apple for anything, they sell to the reseller for like 20 dollars below RRP not including shipping and half of the products you sell you know you will be getting back. We had a mini sitting on the back counter waiting to be processed by apple for nearly two months! that was just to get an RA number to even send back to them.

second ipods themselves really are junk, we got half of ours back with differn't problems, and there just not that good an mp3 player even when they work.

so the moral of the story get a creative those things rock

[kenny12]

i love my iriver to bits