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by **skippy** on Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:15 am

I've seen a few ads on eBay for the D200 and the D200/18-200VR combo. Is it available yet? Haven't seen the 18-200VR in shops yet, but haven't been looking at the D200 until today :twisted:

Thinking of selling my D70 + kit lens and trading up....

by **spartikus** on Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:20 am

shutterbug on this very forum has one, not sure where from buy they are floating around!

by **shutterbug** on Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:37 am

Yes I do have one, I got it from Nikononbroadway :lol:

by **skippy** on Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:36 am

Thanks guys. Digital City near Wynyard has sold a few of them, and is expecting more next week. Cost around $2500 for the D200 body.

Birdy, when do you expect the D200 + 18-200VR kit to be available?

by **nito** on Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:13 pm

digital city chadswood has one in stock. But they do sell camera equipment at rip off prices. Might be able to haggle them down.

by **Jenno** on Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:40 pm

Just noticed one in Teds (Pitt St)

Didnt have the time nor a saleman's attention to ask the price

by **Heath Bennett** on Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:29 pm

Here is an online deal from Digital City:

http://www.digitalcity.net.au/store/product.asp?idProduct=2225

by **Nnnnsic** on Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:39 pm

Hardly a deal for the body only.

by **james m** on Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:00 pm

I have one

by **Heath Bennett** on Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:00 pm

Nnnnsic wrote:Hardly a deal for the body only.

True, but they still called it a 'deal' didn't they?

by **mudder** on Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:22 pm

They're available on e-bay on Jan 15th at $2399 body only...

by **skippy** on Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:55 pm

Seems they're cropping up everywhere then. I was told a few weeks ago by G&V Imaging on George St that it would be about $2500. No info on the lens yet - couldn't get over there today.

by **Dug** on Fri Jan 06, 2006 11:00 pm

If you have a D70 or 70s for sale second hand let me know I have a mate looking for one with the kit lens.

We have a d200 on the shelf for $2,800 body only and it has sold already.

What aperture is the 18 200 VR?

When will they bring out an 18 + zoom f2.8 or better?

by **skippy** on Fri Jan 06, 2006 11:19 pm

Saw your PM Dug - email sent.

Ouch. People seem to want it.

The 18-200VR is a 3.5 to 5.6. Dpreview has a preview (heh) of it:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0511/05110103nikon18-200vr.asp

by **Grev** on Sat Jan 07, 2006 12:53 am

Jenno wrote:Just noticed one in Teds (Pitt St)

Didnt have the time nor a saleman's attention to ask the price

I did not see that when I was in Sydney a few days ago...

And back in Brisbane, I've only seen one at a shop... :lol:

by **tasadam** on Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:46 am

Hi
If I were to order a D200 *soon*, how long would it likely take to come?
I take it there are a fair few ordered by now.
The big thing that concerns me (but I don't want to hassle Birddog until I am ready to buy) is Australian warranty, and whether I can purchase extended wty thru phototechnical as I did for my D70.
Hopefully people that have, or will soon have their D200's can answer this.
Cheers
Adam.

by **birddog114** on Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:47 am

tasadam wrote:Hi
If I were to order a D200 *soon*, how long would it likely take to come?

Very soon or immediately is another word.

The big thing that concerns me (but I don't want to hassle Birddog until I am ready to buy) is Australian warranty, and whether I can purchase extended wty thru phototechnical as I did for my D70.

Doable same as the ex-D70.

by **shutterbug** on Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:53 am

Has anyone seen the MB-200 grip?

by **james m** on Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:59 am

yes

also when I was in Canberra over xmas Fletchers had the the grips but no cameras ....

by **shutterbug** on Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:23 am

In Sydney? and how much?

by **shaunus** on Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:27 am

picked up my D200 locally in Sydney with grip, spare battery and 2gig Sandisk Ultra II for $3,000

hi james,

just wonder what store you got this package from, its about exactly what i want to spend on all the gear.

cheers
shaun

by **james m** on Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:55 am

The store name won't help you as it is not what you know but who you know if you know what I mean ....

by **shaunus** on Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:24 pm

ahhhh.....one of those situations

by **Raskill** on Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:25 pm

by **Matt. K** on Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:01 pm

Teds have one for inspection but not yet for sale. They said their price was $2800 for the body. I guess that will come down eventually.

by **james m** on Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:17 pm

Teds and ECS had stocks of the D200 before xmas but not sure how many they got in and how quick they sold ....

by **whiz** on Wed Jan 11, 2006 5:11 pm

There is currently a body for fondling purposes only in The Camera house near Harris Scarfe in Adelaide.
Although James Place cameras assures me that there isn't one in Adelaide..

It's a lot bigger in my hands then the D70 is. It won't be as comfortable for me to use.

I'm guessing that I'll learn to live with it...

by **james m** on Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:16 pm

Found out today ECS got 30 D200's in before xmas and they all went in a couple of days ....

by **james m** on Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:18 pm

shutterbug wrote:In Sydney? and how much?

ECS have the grips in stock but not sure how much, noticed them when I was in there today.

by **tasadam** on Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:02 pm

What about the 18-200 VR?

My wife now has my D70 so I'm between cameras at the moment, but wanting the 18-200 so I can have the 18-70 kit for my D200 when I get it.

So just wondering on availability time and guesstimate of price on thge 18-200 VR?

by **xorl** on Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:11 pm

whiz wrote:There is currently a body for fondling purposes only in The Camera house near Harris Scarfe in Adelaide.

Thanks for pointing this out! I might have to go for a walk down there on Saturday

. I thought I might have to wait until Feb before a store might keep one aside for playing.

by **james m** on Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:17 pm

tasadam wrote:What about the 18-200 VR?

I have seen the 18-200 in a few shops around Sydney with the price varying from $1095 (ECS) up to $1340 in the Sydney CBD

by **skippy** on Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:23 am

james m wrote:
tasadam wrote:What about the 18-200 VR?

I have seen the 18-200 in a few shops around Sydney with the price varying from $1095 (ECS) up to $1340 in the Sydney CBD

OK, I've had a look, but can't find it. Who's ECS? I've been quoted $1340 in one place, and another said D200 + 18-200VR for $3700, but $1095 seems like a great price.

by **Glen** on Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:47 am

http://www.europeancameras.com/

by **skippy** on Sun Jan 15, 2006 5:01 am

Thanks Glen! Bookmarked...

by **birddog114** on Sun Jan 15, 2006 6:37 am

skippy wrote:Thanks Glen! Bookmarked...

Make sure you study the case of the Nikkor 18-200VR II prior to make your decision. :wink:

by **tasadam** on Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:56 pm

Birddog114 wrote:Make sure you study the case of the Nikkor 18-200VR II prior to make your decision.

I have had a good look but cannot find anything negative about the 18-200VR lens.
Do you know something we don't?
Does anyone know about these lenses yet? I've seen the Ken Rockwell review among others, all seems good...

Would you consider the 18-200VR a "professional" lens?

by **Collingwood** on Mon Jan 16, 2006 3:14 pm

The only bad point I have seen mentioned so far is vignetting but this is from one image on the internet and I don't put much credibility at all on sample pics posted on the net. From other shots I have seen posted, it seems it will fill it's specification. I'll be happily purchasing it for the "all-in-one" occasions.

by **birddog114** on Mon Jan 16, 2006 3:20 pm

tasadam wrote:
Birddog114 wrote:Make sure you study the case of the Nikkor 18-200VR II prior to make your decision.

I have had a good look but cannot find anything negative about the 18-200VR lens.
Do you know something we don't?
Does anyone know about these lenses yet? I've seen the Ken Rockwell review among others, all seems good...

Would you consider the 18-200VR a "professional" lens?

An extraction from other forum from Thom Hogan, I have few more to read and learn if you wish:

Jerry Shattner wrote:
> I may be dumb, but from what I've read there's about a 4-stop
> difference between VR and non-VR for hand-holding.

Thom Hogan:
No, you're not dumb. But I think it needs to be emphasized again that VR is not the same as shutter speed. Three important factors come into play, I believe:
1. VR "sharpness" is not the same as "real sharpness." This is very difficult to quantify, but I'm absolutely convinced of it after looking at thousands of shots (probably more, but who counts that high?). Slow shutter speed VR looks a bit like antialiasing and diffraction. Most amateurs can't see that without training, but it's there.
2. The lens is generally being used wide open when you're getting that 4-stop (or 2-stop, or whatever it is) difference. That means you're also getting imaging issues from the lens.
3. It's really rare that you've got a completely unmoving subject. The difference between 1/15 and 1/250 in even a slight wind with a landscape shot is enough to get "bad" edges on foliage.

Jerry Shattner
> Again, the only "slowness" issue is a) a 2-stop darker viewfinder,
> b) less narrow DOF when you need it, and 3) a requirement for
> slower shutter speeds (and less stop action) for a given EV,
> providing you're ok with narrower DOF. VR and/or ISO can compensate
> for the latter, but not the first 2.

Thom Hogan:
a) Yes, the viewfinder is darker, but there is also less light getting to the AF sensors. Indeed, at f/5.6 you're getting very near the cutoff point for the sensors. On a D2 series body with the wide and low-light sensitive AF areas, this isn't real bad, but your AF will slow down. On a D200, AF will perceivably slow.

by **birddog114** on Mon Jan 16, 2006 3:28 pm

tasadam,

Another simple and easy solution:

Buy and use it, if you're not happy with it then eBay, you may become a lens tester for us on this 18-200.

by **tasadam** on Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:30 pm

Birddog114 wrote:tasadam,

Another simple and easy solution:

Buy and use it, if you're not happy with it then eBay, you may become a lens tester for us on this 18-200.

Which brings me to another question - one that my wife has been wanting me to ask, after all, it is to be HER lens... on HER D70 (I'm "between" cameras at the moment) :wink:

Birdy can you do this lens yet? Or at this stage is ECS the best bet?

If ECS, maybe I'd be better to buy the D200 and 18-200 together from them?

As for other info on pros and cons of the 18-200VR, I'd be happy to read all...

by **birddog114** on Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:51 pm

tasadam,
If you're keen on the lens, don't need to read further, grab them and play.

I don't want to have this lens on the list yet as:
- Price is unstable due to the new product.
- Mixed reports flow in all the time and I don't want to busy with something nonsense.

by **Glen** on Mon Jan 16, 2006 5:02 pm

tasadam wrote:[
Would you consider the 18-200VR a "professional" lens?

No.

by **birddog114** on Mon Jan 16, 2006 5:05 pm

tasadam wrote:
Would you consider the 18-200VR a "professional" lens?

It's a "toy" lens :wink:

by **tasadam** on Tue Jan 17, 2006 1:51 pm

Bugger me... A toy lens and a non-pro lens from Nikon for over $1000... Hhmmm. Expensive hobby.

I liked the idea of this lens for her so she didn't have to change lenses all the time.

If this lens is not going to do it for me (her), I think I'll start a new topic on "pro" lens choices. Too far off topic for D200 availability.

Thank you very much for your advice & opinions.
Adam.

by **energypolice** on Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:27 pm

I could not wait for D200, so got the D2X, and I am very pleased with it.

by **bindiblue** on Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:04 pm

Hi Guys
I am new here, just wanted to say I bought my D200 from photo buff, online, originally saw his site on ebay, Not being into ebay I rang this guy as he sold COD from melbourne, ( I am in Qld) he was very helpfull and I bought all my gear from him,, and have b een happy,,, only reason I bought this way, was I didnt want to be put on a waiting list for the camera, as I was told its pretty long list,,

You can see his stock on addy below, then just send an email as I did,
not sure if this will help anyone, but worth a try,

Suzanne

http://stores.ebay.com.au/photo-buff_Di ... idZ2QQtZkm

by **birddog114** on Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:18 pm

bindiblue,

Welcome!

Yes, the D200 is available with many eBay sellers but they're not Maxwell/ Nikon stock and the warranty is another issue if something goes wrong with the D200, Maxwell won't look after the grey import DSLR body unless you agree to pay for the repair or recifying any problems, on the other side the D200 can be returned to seller for warranty and they will send it back to its original.

As you aware, D200 has mixed of reports with its faults & problems, therefore buying grey imported D200 is another try of your luck.

by **Finch** on Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:30 pm

Bindiblue,

Seeing your post about the D200 makes me envious but I also agree with Thanh (Birddog 114) that you take a risk when buying grey import models.

I've been waiting 3+ months for a Maxwell's/Nikon version but at least I'll be getting one that has been checked/tested and with a Maxwell's warranty.

Good luck with your new 'toy'.

Cheers

Michael

by **lostinsydney** on Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:07 pm

i had absolutely no luck buying one anywhere locally and earlier last month i finally got mine from b&h with a kit lens and shipped to my california, usa mailing address as they wont ship d200 outside usa. i even tried to buy one from ingram micro in singapore on my last 2 trips to singapore earlier this year, they had no stock. the price was sweet but no stock, had more than few weeks wait and cash payment. some shops in singapore have d200 in stock but it's direct import, no local warranty. funny enough back in january this year, i saw an advertisement in the local singapore newspaper and they had lowerpro bag free with d200. :shock: