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by stubbsy on Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:27 pm
At the 25/2 mini meet at Birdy's we had the good fortine to play with an EOS 1DS MkII and kit. Tthere was a 70-200mm f/2.8L IS lens, speedllite 550EX flash and a more standard range lens (EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM I think but not being a Canon man I can't remember the exact details - no doubt Leigh will be along later to correct them)
Leigh has been given this little box of goodies for a job he has. Thought I'd share some pics (click a pic to see a bigger version):
The big beast itself (and big it was - heavier than a Nikon D2X which is it's nearest equivalent in the Nikon range)
The box of goodies
Leigh with the 70-200

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by the foto fanatic on Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:52 pm
Leigh may need to increase his gym program if he is going to be lugging that lot around for any length of time. 
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by birddog114 on Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:37 pm
Lucky champ with $30k of equipment which he has in his hand.
Does he know how to master it? Yes, he'll and be one of Canon fans and will post many long threads in Canon coral.

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by Nnnnsic on Sun Feb 26, 2006 2:07 pm
Not likely after the processing I've just done.
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by marcotrov on Sun Feb 26, 2006 2:33 pm
Not happy with the output Leigh?  C'mmon let's see them
cheers
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by gstark on Sun Feb 26, 2006 2:48 pm
Marco,
I think he's probably less happy with the input.
While we've yet to see how the in-camera sharpening works, it's an undisputed fact that the Canon's have quite superior low noise capabilites when compared with the Nikons.
But this comes at a cost, and that cost is the inherent sharpness of the images. As good as the Canon glass is, the Canon raw images are much softer than the Canon equivalents.
While some might like this, that's certainly not my preference, and I would much rather see some noise in a sharp image, than see no noise in an image that's too soft and does not really reproduce what I saw.
This is undoubdetedly a serious area of trade-off, and I accept that many will prefer the smothness and softness.
But why go and pay all that money for good glass if the camera's internal processing is going to render that glass's benefits null and void?
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by Poon on Sun Feb 26, 2006 3:44 pm
Surprised me the Leihgh played this top-gun.
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by birddog114 on Sun Feb 26, 2006 3:47 pm
Poon wrote:Surprised me the Leihgh played this top-gun. ---- Regards Poon
Poon,
Not only he played with it for a few minutes but all are in his possession and he hide it under his bed. 
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by Nnnnsic on Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:00 pm
Poon wrote:Surprised me the Leihgh played this top-gun.
Surprised me too, Poon.
Especially since this is my job this week. 
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by nito on Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:14 pm
wow its a beast, esp with the 70-200 lens. It can double back as a dumbell. 
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by DionM on Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:55 am
gstark wrote:Marco,
I think he's probably less happy with the input.
While we've yet to see how the in-camera sharpening works, it's an undisputed fact that the Canon's have quite superior low noise capabilites when compared with the Nikons.
But this comes at a cost, and that cost is the inherent sharpness of the images. As good as the Canon glass is, the Canon raw images are much softer than the Canon equivalents.
While some might like this, that's certainly not my preference, and I would much rather see some noise in a sharp image, than see no noise in an image that's too soft and does not really reproduce what I saw.
This is undoubdetedly a serious area of trade-off, and I accept that many will prefer the smothness and softness.
But why go and pay all that money for good glass if the camera's internal processing is going to render that glass's benefits null and void?
I have not shot with a 1D myself, but that is surprising.
I have gotten some super sharp shots from my 20D and 70-200 2.8. I would be checking focus issues (Canon does have that more often than Nikon) before blaming anything inherent.
Canon 20D and a bunch of lovely L glass and a 580EX. Benro tripod. Manfrotto monopod. Lowepro and Crumpler bags. And a pair of Sigma teleconverters, and some Kenko tubes. http://www.dionm.net/
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by Grev on Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:16 am
Woah, what a nice box of goodies. 
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by jdear on Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:39 am
so is it yours permanently? or just on loan for a particular job?
love to hear some extensive feedback on it when your done
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by birddog114 on Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:41 am
jdear wrote:so is it yours permanently? or just on loan for a particular job? love to hear some extensive feedback on it when your done  J
Jdear,
Pls. update: how far are you going with all your dream to own a DSLR?
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by jdear on Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:59 am
 not very far...
I am doing a few websites, and hoping to create some greeting cards to help the savings scheme.
My wife and I enrolled in Ken Duncan's Hamilton Island photography workshop in July, URL here. So savings are aimed towards that.
I am really hoping to have purchased a DSLR for this holiday  (rather not buy 100+ rolls of film  )
Im keeping an eye out for a 2nd hand D2H (loved yours) and keeping on eye on the D200 development.
ta for asking
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by gstark on Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:02 pm
jdear wrote:Im keeping an eye out for a 2nd hand D2H (loved yours) and keeping on eye on the D200 development.
Jonathan,
Did you see the link earlier this week where Hoto Reisel in the city were selling pre-owned D70s kits for sub 1K?
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by birddog114 on Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:06 pm
I've been told from one of my friends, who was looking for a cheapist D70 kit: They're all gone within couple hours after they were announced.
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by jdear on Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:58 pm
really not surprising!
bloody good value!
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by gstark on Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:20 pm
Jonathan,
Damn, eh ?

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by Technik on Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:47 pm
Birddog114 wrote:I've been told from one of my friends, who was looking for a cheapist D70 kit: They're all gone within couple hours after they were announced.
I was there at lunch time today, they still got 1 left!!!!
D70s/D200; Tokina 16-50mm 2.8; 18-70DX ; 50mm 1.8 ; 80-200mm 2.8D ; SB600 + Stofen Omini Bouncer
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by Grev on Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:52 am
gstark wrote:Did you see the link earlier this week where Hoto Reisel in the city were selling pre-owned D70s kits for sub 1K?
Any other second hand Nikon DSLRs?
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