Opinions...

[Geoff]

Well - this is very off topic but I had a big laugh to myself last night, wanted your opinion on this.

I have only a few pet hates in life, one of them is people throwing their cigarette buts on the ground (worse still in a gutter).

I was on my way to work last night stuck in peak hour traffic, on the other side of the road I saw a woman with some friends, who stubbed out her cigarette butt and threw it in the gutter - if I wasn't as far away as what I was I would have wound my window down and told her what I thought.

She was standing outside a restaurant with it's phone number well advertised. I called the restaurant and asked them to let her know that she had dropped something and to get her to come to the phone - even better, they took the cordless phone to her out on the main road, so I could see and hear what was happening.

The kind restaurant owner handed over the phone were I politely but assertively told this woman I could see what she'd just done and that her butt would only end up in our beautiful harbour - I told her not to be a tosser and pick up her butt that she'd just thrown in the gutter, and what a disgusting thing it was to do. There was absolutely no way she could have seen me as I was on the opposite side of the rd and there was a steady stream of traffic between us. She looked around and was dumb founded, her response was 'ok, thanks'.

There's not a lot that REALLY bugs me, but this is one issue I really have with mankind! Someone was watching her, it was me and hopefully she'll think twice about doing it next time.

Your thoughts? Vigilante or a bit wankish?

[big pix]

do it every chance you get..........

[gstark]

Geoff,

Absolutely brilliant!

I love it. Well done.

[birddog114]

Maybe she's a member here and she's reading

[Geoff]

Maybe she's a member here and she's reading

Even better

[birddog114]

Maybe she's a member here and she's reading

Even better

Not in real sometimes as you expected!

I know you've done good but you may not win all!!!!!

I don't bother coz it won't stop them all.

[Geoff]

Maybe she's a member here and she's reading

Even better

Not in real sometimes as you expected!

I know you've done good but you may not win all!!!!!

I don't bother coz it won't stop them all.

The way I see it Birdy is if just ONE person is made aware of this disgusting and hiddeous (crime) then they may, just may think about it next time, and possibly encorage their friends not to do it either. It REALLY makes me sick seeing people do this, makes my blood boil.

[birddog114]

Maybe she's a member here and she's reading

Even better

Not in real sometimes as you expected!

I know you've done good but you may not win all!!!!!

I don't bother coz it won't stop them all.

The way I see it Birdy is if just ONE person is made aware of this disgusting and hiddeous (crime) then they may, just may think about it next time, and possibly encorage their friends not to do it either. It REALLY makes me sick seeing people do this, makes my blood boil.

Make me sick and my blood boils with all the abusive photos on SBS about Iraqis, but does the world change?

[Glen]

Well done Geoff, I love it

[losfp]

Hah! Nice one

IMO it's not just ciggy butts, it's any type of rubbish that people throw on the ground without thinking. What, you can't carry it a few metres to the nearest bin??

Onya for actually doing something about it. Most of us (myself included) would probably have just fumed and ranted about it, but never actually work up the courage to tell them off.

[Hlop]

I love what you've done, Geoff!

I was a smoker for 17 years myself and I always hated (and still hate) people throwing butts around. Very well done!!!

[radar]

Hi Geoff,

well done, every bit counts. That would have been a good photo opp if you could have pulled out your 70-200 with her taking the call!! That would have given you away I guess

Cheers,

André

[xerubus]

reminds me a bit of the movie Scream:

"You never told me your name." -Killer
"Why do you want to know my name?" -Casey
"Because I want to know who I am looking at." -Killer

good on you for standing up for your beliefs.

cheers

[birddog114]

"Environment Minister" is new tittle for you Geoff.
Stand up next State Election and you'll get lot of votes.

[Geoff]

Thanx for the comments ppls - it gave me a good chuckle when I hung up the phone watching her looking around to see who was watching her...tehe. Ahhh the fun. I'll probably get myself into trouble one day - I have no qualms (? spelling) telling ppl that they 'accidently' dropped their rubbish/butts if I see them do it

[Greg B]

Good work Geoff. Getting one person to change their ways is an excellent start to having a broader effect. Your actions may just have a positive effect on the woman in question - at the very least, she will think about it next time - and the effect can flow from there.

Plus it would have been fun

[Alpha_7]

Great work Geoff.

It was hard to tell from your description is she actually picked it up, she said 'ok thanks' but then did she act on it and clean up her litter.

Must of been a bit of a trip, getting a phone call like that, a lot like in the movies where the killer/spy/ransom holder is on the phone but the other guy has no idea where they are.

Great story.

[Geoff]

Great work Geoff.

It was hard to tell from your description is she actually picked it up, she said 'ok thanks' but then did she act on it and clean up her litter.

Must of been a bit of a trip, getting a phone call like that, a lot like in the movies where the killer/spy/ransom holder is on the phone but the other guy has no idea where they are.

Great story.

Good question Craig - the traffic started to move and I couldn't easily see, but I actually don't think she went to pick it up - silly woman.

[sirhc55]

Maybe you could include people that evacuate their nose on to the pavement - this happened in front of me yesterday.

Now I agree on cigarette butts but to have the substance lurking in someones nostrils propelled out is to me not only criminal but a massive health hazzard.

[Jonas]

Great stuff Geoff. Dropping cigarette butts is probably at the top of my list of "what makes my blood boil".

I remember that NSW had a hotline where you could ring up and dob in someone who had thrown a butt from a car. I think it was more to stop bush fires but if would be a useful to at least get people thinkng about what they are doing.

Unfortunately QLD doesn't have anything similar so I have to resort to silently fuming when ever I see it happen.

[Geoff]

Maybe you could include people that evacuate their nose on to the pavement - this happened in front of me yesterday.

Now I agree on cigarette butts but to have the substance lurking in someones nostrils propelled out is to me not only criminal but a massive health hazzard.

Chris - love the way you express it 'evacuate their nose' - priceless! Agreed - that's outright ferrel! What's the world coming to!??!????

You could have said to them 'thatSnot on'

[Geoff]

Great stuff Geoff. Dropping cigarette butts is probably at the top of my list of "what makes my blood boil".

I remember that NSW had a hotline where you could ring up and dob in someone who had thrown a butt from a car. I think it was more to stop bush fires but if would be a useful to at least get people thinkng about what they are doing.

Unfortunately QLD doesn't have anything similar so I have to resort to silently fuming when ever I see it happen.

My Dad worked and help write pollution laws with the EPA for most of his working life - he still has the authority to book ppl who throw butts from their cars and he does so about once/twice a month - FAR less than what he did some 2 years ago. Interesting. I think it's now a $200 fine - should be $2000 in my humble opinion.

[birddog114]

But fun if not there if:
- You got caught and booked coz you're using the phone while driving without handsfree (In case, You don't have bluetooth or handfree device installed)

- You might get sued coz she may counter-attack by claiming you were stalking her over the phone.

Yes, they can track back where is original of the call and you don't have proof to say that she threw the butt into the gutter.

Bring and mount your 70-200VR on top of the car's roof and get it ready in action to capture those rare images to protect yourself.

[Geoff]

I don't think she'd be smart enough to initiate anything like that Birdy - and good luck to her if she tried

When they said to her that 'someone' wanted her on the phone, I heard her say to them ' I don't know somoene'

[gstark]

Geoff,

This truly has an air of elegance about it that I simply lov.

You should have told her that she needed to trot herself off to the local police station and hand herself in for littering, and that if she didn't present herself there within 30 minutes, she'd be in very serious trouble.

[birddog114]

Geoff,

This truly has an air of elegance about it that I simply lov.

You should have told her that she needed to trot herself off to the local police station and hand herself in for littering, and that if she didn't present herself there within 30 minutes, she'd be in very serious trouble.

[gstark]

When they said to her that 'someone' wanted her on the phone, I heard her say to them ' I don't know somoene'

Was she blonde?


I'll be willing to bet that she drives a beamer.

[birddog114]

How's about people spits out from car windows or on the street?

Is it same as cigarette butt?

[Geoff]

Geoff,

This truly has an air of elegance about it that I simply lov.

You should have told her that she needed to trot herself off to the local police station and hand herself in for littering, and that if she didn't present herself there within 30 minutes, she'd be in very serious trouble.

Priceless - don't u just love hindsight?

[gstark]

How's about people spits over car windows or on the street?

Especially if they miss.

[sirhc55]

How's about people spits out from car windows or on the street?

Is it same as cigarette butt?

In my opinion it is far worse than a cigarette butt. A cigarette butt will not spread disease - spitting and nose evacuation can and does spread disease.

[Geoff]

How's about people spits out from car windows or on the street?

Is it same as cigarette butt?

I think spitting is disgusting, and has some potential serious health hazard consequences, however cigarette butts pollute our harbours, kill our fish/wildlife and take a VERY long time to biodedegrade. Whilst airborne spittle spread germs etc - it usually lands on the ground and dries out - in NO way do I condone spitting, but I think the butts are more prominent than the disguting nature of ppl spitting out their window etc etc...

[Geoff]

Gary, she was a brunette.

[birddog114]

How's about people spits out from car windows or on the street?

Is it same as cigarette butt?

I think spitting is disgusting, and has some potential serious health hazard consequences, however cigarette butts pollute our harbours, kill our fish/wildlife and take a VERY long time to biodedegrade. Whilst airborne spittle spread germs etc - it usually lands on the ground and dries out - in NO way do I condone spitting, but I think the butts are more prominent than the disguting nature of ppl spitting out their window etc etc...

Geoff,
Did you read the paper and news on TV we should wear mask in this flu season?

[sirhc55]

Some advice to smokers who have gardens. Save the butts and when you have two handfulls place them in a litre of water with some liquid washing up fluid. Leave to ingest for a week or two and then filter. The resulting solution can be used to spray onto plants to rid them of aphids and other little buggers.

Butts can have a use.

[Alpha_7]

How's about people spits out from car windows or on the street?

Is it same as cigarette butt?

I think spitting is disgusting, and has some potential serious health hazard consequences, however cigarette butts pollute our harbours, kill our fish/wildlife and take a VERY long time to biodedegrade. Whilst airborne spittle spread germs etc - it usually lands on the ground and dries out - in NO way do I condone spitting, but I think the butts are more prominent than the disguting nature of ppl spitting out their window etc etc...

Niether Spitting or Butts have a place in the street, or any public areas, niether are polite or environmentally friendly, yet both are common place.

[Geoff]

Some advice to smokers who have gardens. Save the butts and when you have two handfulls place them in a litre of water with some liquid washing up fluid. Leave to ingest for a week or two and then filter. The resulting solution can be used to spray onto plants to rid them of aphids and other little buggers.

Butts can have a use.

Truely fascinating Chris - where the bloody hell (sorry monarchists) did you learn that???

[birddog114]

Some advice to smokers who have gardens. Save the butts and when you have two handfulls place them in a litre of water with some liquid washing up fluid. Leave to ingest for a week or two and then filter. The resulting solution can be used to spray onto plants to rid them of aphids and other little buggers.

Butts can have a use.

Another use of the butts as replacing your silica gels

[Geoff]

How's about people spits out from car windows or on the street?

Is it same as cigarette butt?

I think spitting is disgusting, and has some potential serious health hazard consequences, however cigarette butts pollute our harbours, kill our fish/wildlife and take a VERY long time to biodedegrade. Whilst airborne spittle spread germs etc - it usually lands on the ground and dries out - in NO way do I condone spitting, but I think the butts are more prominent than the disguting nature of ppl spitting out their window etc etc...

Geoff,
Did you read the paper and news on TV we should wear mask in this flu season?

In my opinion Birdy - this is media hype, however....

Geoff's BARGAINS:

Face masks - $3 each or 6 for $15

[gstark]

How's about people spits out from car windows or on the street?

Is it same as cigarette butt?

I think spitting is disgusting, and has some potential serious health hazard consequences, however cigarette butts pollute our harbours, kill our fish/wildlife

I keep telling those fish and kangaroos to stop smoking. They just refuse to listen ....

[gstark]

Gary, she was a brunette.

Probably dyed her hair. Artificial intelligence.

[gstark]

Did you read the paper and news on TV we should wear mask in this flu season?

What about Halloween?

[birddog114]

How's about people spits out from car windows or on the street?

Is it same as cigarette butt?

I think spitting is disgusting, and has some potential serious health hazard consequences, however cigarette butts pollute our harbours, kill our fish/wildlife and take a VERY long time to biodedegrade. Whilst airborne spittle spread germs etc - it usually lands on the ground and dries out - in NO way do I condone spitting, but I think the butts are more prominent than the disguting nature of ppl spitting out their window etc etc...

Geoff,
Did you read the paper and news on TV we should wear mask in this flu season?

In my opinion Birdy - this is media hype, however....

Geoff's BARGAINS:

Face masks - $3 each or 6 for $15

Geoff,
Sources are from medical research experts and from Health Dept.

So you did stock up those for some reasons? and they're surpluses from where you're working?

[Alpha_7]

I know personally about 33 people that are off sick with the flu, or just coming back from it. (Including Katie and Myself). So there are definitely a lot of germs out there, but I am not sure how affective the masks are at protection yourself or others.

(Public transport is the killer though, that and elevators, one person sneezes everyone has a chance of enhaling the little buggers.)

[gstark]

In my opinion Birdy - this is media hype, however....

Geoff's BARGAINS:

Face masks - $3 each or 6 for $15

Actually, the wearing of masks is an official recommendation for the coming flu season, for those who are infected.

But you've given me an idea ...

stand by.

[Geoff]

How's about people spits out from car windows or on the street?

Is it same as cigarette butt?

I think spitting is disgusting, and has some potential serious health hazard consequences, however cigarette butts pollute our harbours, kill our fish/wildlife and take a VERY long time to biodedegrade. Whilst airborne spittle spread germs etc - it usually lands on the ground and dries out - in NO way do I condone spitting, but I think the butts are more prominent than the disguting nature of ppl spitting out their window etc etc...

Geoff,
Did you read the paper and news on TV we should wear mask in this flu season?

In my opinion Birdy - this is media hype, however....

Geoff's BARGAINS:

Face masks - $3 each or 6 for $15

Geoff,
Sources are from medical research experts and from Health Dept.

So you did stock up those for some reasons? and they're surpluses from where you're working?

I can't reveal my sources

Sure - it's a warning from the Health Department.
My I offer some simple advice for the upcoming 'flu' season:

1. eat lots of fresh fruit and vegies
2. get enough sleep (ok so I'm being a tad hypocritical right now)
3. exercise regularly

these 3 things will help boost each of our immune systems 'hopefully' to barrier 'naturally' against cold and flu.

[birddog114]

How's about people spits out from car windows or on the street?

Is it same as cigarette butt?

I think spitting is disgusting, and has some potential serious health hazard consequences, however cigarette butts pollute our harbours, kill our fish/wildlife and take a VERY long time to biodedegrade. Whilst airborne spittle spread germs etc - it usually lands on the ground and dries out - in NO way do I condone spitting, but I think the butts are more prominent than the disguting nature of ppl spitting out their window etc etc...

Geoff,
Did you read the paper and news on TV we should wear mask in this flu season?

In my opinion Birdy - this is media hype, however....

Geoff's BARGAINS:

Face masks - $3 each or 6 for $15

Geoff,
Sources are from medical research experts and from Health Dept.

So you did stock up those for some reasons? and they're surpluses from where you're working?

I can't reveal my sources

Sure - it's a warning from the Health Department.
My I offer some simple advice for the upcoming 'flu' season:

1. eat lots of fresh fruit and vegies
2. get enough sleep (ok so I'm being a tad hypocritical right now)
3. exercise regularly

these 3 things will help boost each of our immune systems 'hopefully' to barrier 'naturally' against cold and flu.

You're missing the 2 last important:
- have a good bottle of Red every day.
- Having Sex regularly (Having sex is a good excersice method)

[Geoff]

Ahhh yes Birdy, how true you are. I can hear all us blokes now 'darling - help me boost my immune system....rrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeaoooooow'

[greencardigan]

My Dad worked and help write pollution laws with the EPA for most of his working life - he still has the authority to book ppl who throw butts from their cars and he does so about once/twice a month - FAR less than what he did some 2 years ago. Interesting. I think it's now a $200 fine - should be $2000 in my humble opinion.

Same here. Our Council has a program running where staff are authorised to fine people who litter from vehicles.

I've fined heaps of people over the last few years. The number of people who throw their rubbish in the foreshore carparks is sickening.

[birddog114]

My Dad worked and help write pollution laws with the EPA for most of his working life - he still has the authority to book ppl who throw butts from their cars and he does so about once/twice a month - FAR less than what he did some 2 years ago. Interesting. I think it's now a $200 fine - should be $2000 in my humble opinion.

Same here. Our Council has a program running where staff are authorised to fine people who litter from vehicles.

I've fined heaps of people over the last few years. The number of people who throw their rubbish in the foreshore carparks is sickening.

You're coming out of the woods