Questions re: color spaces

[gleff]

Hi All,

I have some questions about color spaces and which ones to use.

Here is my situation.

I've got my photo's shot in either SRGB or Adobe RGB.
I have a new Monitor profile thanks to my new Spyder 2 Pro
I also see I have a couple of Printer profiles for my Canon MP780

What should I set my Adobe CS2 Color Settings to. Assuming I want my photo's to:

1. Be PP'd
2. Save mainly for the web
3. When I do print a photo, I want it to look like it does on the monitor.

Am I correct in assuming if I want to have a print look like the monitor, then I need to change my working color profile to that of the printer profile? Or do I always keep it set to Adobe RGB or something. If the latter, what's the point of using Spyder to calibrate the monitor to a profile if you're not going to use it in the CS2?

Sorry for all the questions.

[shakey]

Hi All,

I have some questions about color spaces and which ones to use.

Here is my situation.

I've got my photo's shot in either SRGB or Adobe RGB.
I have a new Monitor profile thanks to my new Spyder 2 Pro
I also see I have a couple of Printer profiles for my Canon MP780

What should I set my Adobe CS2 Color Settings to. Assuming I want my photo's to:

1. Be PP'd
2. Save mainly for the web
3. When I do print a photo, I want it to look like it does on the monitor.

Am I correct in assuming if I want to have a print look like the monitor, then I need to change my working color profile to that of the printer profile?

No you are not correct. You should set the working space to either Adobe RGB or sRGB. Do not set it to a printer profile.

If the latter, what's the point of using Spyder to calibrate the monitor to a profile if you're not going to use it in the CS2?

It's your monitor which uses the Spyder created profile, not CS2. It is a monitor profile, not a colour space profile and not a printing profile. I wish Adobe did not allow you to choose that profile as your working space.


If you want to print from your home printer the next step is: -
In File>Print with Preview choose "Let photoshop determine colours" and then choose your printer/paper profile in the next drop down box

[gleff]

Beautiful.. Thanks Shakey. That's exactly what I was after. It makes perfect sense. That article you pointed me to in the other thread was very informative too. All makes perfect sense now.

Cheers
Geoff

I just did a sample print however, and the photo looks normal on the monitor, but printed seems to have a lot of purple in the image. I did one where I told it not to manage color and it looks more like the monitor image.

[shakey]

I just did a sample print however, and the photo looks normal on the monitor, but printed seems to have a lot of purple in the image. I did one where I told it not to manage color and it looks more like the monitor image.

Yes..once Photoshop is managing the colour you need to turn off colour management by the printer...we all know what happens when there are "too many chiefs"

Glad you got it working OK

[gleff]

I just did a sample print however, and the photo looks normal on the monitor, but printed seems to have a lot of purple in the image. I did one where I told it not to manage color and it looks more like the monitor image.

Yes..once Photoshop is managing the colour you need to turn off colour management by the printer...we all know what happens when there are "too many chiefs"

Glad you got it working OK

I think you misunderstood.. I turned off color management in CS2 eg.

In File>Print with Preview choose "Let photoshop determine colours" and then choose your printer/paper profile in the next drop down box. I turned it off here.

I don't know how to turn it off at the printer. I can't see any settings that say don't use color management or anything.

Anyway, doesn't matter too much about printing.. I mainly do it for the web. I can always go out and get a photo printed if necessary. Every second shop has kiosks these days.

Thanks for all your help though. Much appreciated.

Geoff

[shakey]

I think you misunderstood.. I turned off color management in CS2 eg.

In File>Print with Preview choose "Let photoshop determine colours" and then choose your printer/paper profile in the next drop down box. I turned it off here.

I don't know how to turn it off at the printer. I can't see any settings that say don't use color management or anything.

Well you have turned over colour management to the printer driver. Magenta tints usually mean that you have colour management enabled in both Photoshop AND the printer. I don't know what printer you have but the option to turn colour management off in the printer driver is usually buried somewhere away in the properties dialogs. For example in my elderly Epson 895 it is something like Main>Mode>Custom>Advanced>Color Management>No Color Adjustment.

The most accurate colour managed workflow is to let Photoshop determine colours, not the printer...let Photoshop be the "Master" and the printer be the "Slave".

I'm sure Bob Johnson explains it better than me. Have a look at his "troubleshooting page" re magenta prints...and if you have an epson printer be aware that the Epson provided "Print Preview" option does not accurately reflect the colours of the print.

http://www.earthboundlight.com/phototip ... blems.html

[big pix]

just follow the information in this thread........ and do not change

http://www.dslrusers.net/viewtopic.php?p=194948#194948