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Postby tasadam on Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:25 pm

Wow can you believe these delays with the D200...

I paid for mine so long ago I can't remember... what, about 3 months?

Occasionally I phone Maxwell and ask them how the supply is going, or whether they have heard when they will be getting them.
The usual answer is We received a very small shipment, much less than we were expecting, but are hoping another shipment will be coming in soon...
The last time I called them was last week, they were expecting another shipment "probably more than a week but less than a month..."

You really think Nikon could do better. It tells me one of two things -
(a) They have had so many technical problems with it that have been difficult to iron out,
(b) there has been such a global demand that we really are so far down the list they can't even see us yet.

I hope it's (b) - I am, or have been, patient. But a lot has been happening around me that has presented many excellent photographic opportunities, that I am missing out on to an extent - the D70 is now firmly in the hands of my wife and the Olympus P&S C770 just doesn't cut it.
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C'mon Nikon!!

EDIT - Oh crap... I don't need the D200 any more :wink: Check this link.
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Postby nito on Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:35 pm

I was helping someone try to purchase a D200. It is impossible all out of stock! There are big waiting lists for the camera and well the people in the shops are disappointed that maxwell is struggling with demands.
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Postby birddog114 on Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:38 pm

nito wrote:I was helping someone try to purchase a D200. It is impossible all out of stock! There are big waiting lists for the camera and well the people in the shops are disappointed that maxwell is struggling with demands.


We are not going anywhere near! the rant are still on! :twisted:

Not Maxwell! and Maxwell has nothing to do with this drama.

Talk to Nikon Japan, or switch to Canon 30D or 5D ia an alternative.
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Postby tasadam on Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:05 pm

birddog114 wrote:We are not going anywhere near! the rant are still on! :twisted:

Not Maxwell! and Maxwell has nothing to do with this drama.

Talk to Nikon Japan, or switch to Canon 30D or 5D ia an alternative.

Swapping to Canon - maybe not. Waiting for the (hopefully soon to be released) 35mm sensor in a Nikon DSLR and getting one of those instead? Now that could happen...
But if I get the D200 and then the 35mm sensor comes along, I know I won't be getting one - the D200 is going to be IT for me for a long time. I do not want a divorce :wink:

Birdy are you privvy to any info as to why they are taking so long?

I once spent more than an hour looking for someone in Nikon Japan to email but came up with nothing. Seems talking to them is not easy, they hide behind their dealers quite well.
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Postby birddog114 on Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:10 pm

tasadam wrote:
birddog114 wrote:We are not going anywhere near! the rant are still on! :twisted:

Not Maxwell! and Maxwell has nothing to do with this drama.

Talk to Nikon Japan, or switch to Canon 30D or 5D ia an alternative.



Birdy are you privvy to any info as to why they are taking so long?


This has been discussed few times.

I once spent more than an hour looking for someone in Nikon Japan to email but came up with nothing. Seems talking to them is not easy, they hide behind their dealers quite well.


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Postby tasadam on Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:13 pm

So it's still the same old,

Sorting out the banding,

Battery life issues,

and mostly a huge world demand so we're on the back blocks of nowhere...

Bugger :evil:
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Postby birddog114 on Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:14 pm

Hey! you may receive the D200s instead of D200 :wink:
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Postby Gordon on Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:17 pm

Look on the bright side, the countries getting D200 stock are probably getting all the cameras with problems, by the time they start arriving in Oz they *might* be free of banding, battery etc problems.

I'm at the stage of seriously thinking about buying one, but lack of supply in Oz is good for my credit card balance ;)

However, theres always those good ebay deals lurking at the back of my mind...

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Postby tasadam on Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:00 am

birddog114 wrote:Hey! you may receive the D200s instead of D200 :wink:
Now that's REALLY funny....
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Postby gstark on Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:06 am

I've seen that in the US people are starting to (again) take delivery of D200s, which suggests that the camera is back in production with the issues resolved, and that, as always, the Maxwell Backwater is in it's usual place.
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Postby birddog114 on Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:18 am

tasadam wrote:
birddog114 wrote:Hey! you may receive the D200s instead of D200 :wink:
Now that's REALLY funny....


tasadam,
There's no REALLY funny! what do you want to know about?
April Fools was over nearly two weeks ago.
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Postby Gordon on Thu Apr 13, 2006 1:52 pm

On the subject of the D200, can anyone who has one tell me if they suffer from the large pink glow in the top left hand corner for the frame like the D70 does?
NR frames may be all well and good if you are in no hurry and dont mind waiting twice the exposure to take your next pic, but when trying to make animations of storms for example, it just does not work. Fortunatly sometimes the D70 doesnt suffer the pink glow and all is good, but its a bit random, so I never know if my shots will be wasted.

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Postby gstark on Thu Apr 13, 2006 2:06 pm

Gordon,

IIRC, this is due to the D70's sensor heating up, which is one reason that the D70 isn't really the best tool for making images where a long exposure is needed.

I don't know if the D200 suffers the same issues, but given that both are Sony sensors, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see this as a common issue.
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Postby Gordon on Thu Apr 13, 2006 3:03 pm

gstark wrote:Gordon,

IIRC, this is due to the D70's sensor heating up, which is one reason that the D70 isn't really the best tool for making images where a long exposure is needed.


I'm not entirely convinced thats all there is to it, since I have taken a photo immediately after turning the camera on and had the pink glow. Then taken more photos, when you would presume the sensor would heat up more, and had no pink glow.


gstark wrote:I don't know if the D200 suffers the same issues, but given that both are Sony sensors, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see this as a common issue.


Thats why I'm hoping someone with one can tell me, before I spend/waste any money on one!

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Postby gooseberry on Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:29 pm

Gordon wrote:On the subject of the D200, can anyone who has one tell me if they suffer from the large pink glow in the top left hand corner for the frame like the D70 does?
NR frames may be all well and good if you are in no hurry and dont mind waiting twice the exposure to take your next pic, but when trying to make animations of storms for example, it just does not work. Fortunatly sometimes the D70 doesnt suffer the pink glow and all is good, but its a bit random, so I never know if my shots will be wasted.

Gordon


Gordon,

That's amp noise from the electronics inside the D70 heating up the sensor on really long exposures (I've never experienced it myself, as my longest exposures have all been less than 5 minutes) without long expsoure NR on.

I've read that the D200 will have the amp noise all around the edge of the frame and not just in one corner like the D70. Using long exposure NR gets rid of it. Another option if you don't want to use long exposure NR you can do is use the D200's built-in intervalometer and take a number of automated 30 sec exposures seperated by 1 sec each, and then combine them all into one exposure using PS.
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Postby tasadam on Mon May 08, 2006 11:23 am

Today, Maxwell said they are expecting another shipment this month, and that they should receive stock to fill all back-orders by late June or (hastily changing her mind) July.
They also just received another "small" shipment. No numbers of course.
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Postby birddog114 on Mon May 08, 2006 11:27 am

tasadam wrote:Today, Maxwell said they are expecting another shipment this month, and that they should receive stock to fill all back-orders by late June or (hastily changing her mind) July.
They also just received another "small" shipment. No numbers of course.


Tasadam,
Hope this time they told you the truth as they mentioned same thing to many people at recently PIW but none of us (resellers) seen any sign of the delivery.
I hate this very much with many of the backorders which I put into their hand and always they told the end users difference story.
I wish that I didn't engage this at the beginning :twisted: :twisted:
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Postby Michael on Mon May 08, 2006 11:29 am

If i had of waited for maxwells/nikon/someone to do something I would have gone insane.

So I took aquiring a D200 into my own hands and have never been happier, well except for when I was happily paired with a girl but this ia a different kind of happy I guess.
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Postby birddog114 on Mon May 08, 2006 11:32 am

Michael wrote:If i had of waited for maxwells/nikon/someone to do something I would have gone insane.

So I took aquiring a D200 into my own hands and have never been happier, well except for when I was happily paired with a girl but this ia a different kind of happy I guess.


Michael,
You have done the right thing but it based on your decision, and you're more than happier with it when you want it instantly.
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Postby Alpha_7 on Mon May 08, 2006 11:49 am

Michael wrote:If i had of waited for maxwells/nikon/someone to do something I would have gone insane.

So I took aquiring a D200 into my own hands and have never been happier, well except for when I was happily paired with a girl but this ia a different kind of happy I guess.


Good luck with the girl aspect Michael, maybe you'll pull one with your shiny new camera ;)
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Postby tasadam on Mon May 08, 2006 11:49 am

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Postby birddog114 on Mon May 08, 2006 11:50 am

tasadam wrote:I really want Aus warranty.
I have been hurt before with warranty on other things. Don't want to get caught out on something worth over 2.5K
Wife would kill!

So I wait.

And wait. :cry:


And no more RANT Please!
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Postby dooda on Wed May 10, 2006 10:43 am

My wife returned from Detroit with a surprise brand spanking new D200 (she never liked that I had to share the D70 with my dad's company). And wowza soooeyy! It's something else. I started going through the menus last night and about 20 orgasms later I finally finished; this thing is capable! Did a couple of test shots with no card in it and couldn't believe how perfectly accurate the auto white balance was. I was also impressed by the sound, not a flippety like the d70, but more of a 'clink'.

I recently started to shoot some skaters, and the 5 frames per second is going to come in real handy for that. I'm honestly beside myself. The screen on the back, with the zooming, the smoothness at iso 100. It's the greatest the auto white balance, the menu options, the orgasms etc.
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Postby birddog114 on Wed May 10, 2006 10:47 am

dooda wrote:My wife returned from Detroit with a surprise brand spanking new D200 (she never liked that I had to share the D70 with my dad's company). And wowza soooeyy! It's something else. I started going through the menus last night and about 20 orgasms later I finally finished; this thing is capable! Did a couple of test shots with no card in it and couldn't believe how perfectly accurate the auto white balance was. I was also impressed by the sound, not a flippety like the d70, but more of a 'clink'.

I recently started to shoot some skaters, and the 5 frames per second is going to come in real handy for that. I'm honestly beside myself. The screen on the back, with the zooming, the smoothness at iso 100. It's the greatest the auto white balance, the menu options, the orgasms etc.


dooda,
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Your post will bring more trouble & stress for me at Down Under.:twisted:

May I have your wife's phone number? and will ask her to take it off from your hand :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Alpha_7 on Wed May 10, 2006 10:48 am

dooda wrote:My wife returned from Detroit with a surprise brand spanking new D200 (she never liked that I had to share the D70 with my dad's company).


Congrats Dave, awesome suprise present! Give you wife a thumbs up from me :up: I wonder if this wife buying new camera body thing will catch on *coughD200coughD2Xcough* :) Make sure you post some shots next time you go shooting in the middle of the night :)
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birddog114 wrote:May I have your wife's phone number? and will ask her to take it off from your hand :lol: :lol: :lol:


Birdy if Katie calls tell her I'd prefer the D2X and 70-200VR :lol: :lol:
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Postby birddog114 on Wed May 10, 2006 10:53 am

Alpha_7 wrote:
dooda wrote:My wife returned from Detroit with a surprise brand spanking new D200 (she never liked that I had to share the D70 with my dad's company).


Congrats Dave, awesome suprise present! Give you wife a thumbs up from me :up: I wonder if this wife buying new camera body thing will catch on *coughD200coughD2Xcough* :) Make sure you post some shots next time you go shooting in the middle of the night :)


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Postby Alpha_7 on Wed May 10, 2006 10:55 am

birddog114 wrote:Alpha_7
Katie will do the same thing to you if you're a good boy! :lol: unfortunately, she didn't do it yet, perhaps you're not good enough :lol: :lol: :lol:


That's true better pull my head in and start being a really good boy :)
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Postby Michael on Wed May 10, 2006 11:15 am

Alpha_7 wrote:
Michael wrote:If i had of waited for maxwells/nikon/someone to do something I would have gone insane.

So I took aquiring a D200 into my own hands and have never been happier, well except for when I was happily paired with a girl but this ia a different kind of happy I guess.


Good luck with the girl aspect Michael, maybe you'll pull one with your shiny new camera ;)


Maybe I'll store the 70-200 down my pants thay may help to woo the ladies perhaps :P

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Postby Manta on Wed May 10, 2006 11:44 am

Michael wrote:Maybe I'll store the 70-200 down my pants thay may help to woo the ladies perhaps :P


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Postby Geoff on Wed May 10, 2006 11:51 am

Well I am hoping it's going to be a a nice fat tax cheque come the new financial year which means a D200 and probable 12-24 nikkor :) oooh yah :) Roll on July, hopefully by then there will be an abundance of D200's around the place :D
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Postby Alpha_7 on Wed May 10, 2006 11:51 am

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Michael wrote:Maybe I'll store the 70-200 down my pants thay may help to woo the ladies perhaps :P


Don't forget the filter. If it's not on, it's not on.


Hood on or off is optional but as Simon said don't forget the filter its the only sure protection.
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Postby birddog114 on Wed May 10, 2006 11:53 am

Geoff wrote:Well I am hoping it's going to be a a nice fat tax cheque come the new financial year which means a D200 and probable 12-24 nikkor :) oooh yah :) Roll on July, hopefully by then there will be an abundance of D200's around the place :D


+ a baby bonus will add up your benefits too :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Geoff on Wed May 10, 2006 11:55 am

birddog114 wrote:
Geoff wrote:Well I am hoping it's going to be a a nice fat tax cheque come the new financial year which means a D200 and probable 12-24 nikkor :) oooh yah :) Roll on July, hopefully by then there will be an abundance of D200's around the place :D


+ a baby bonus will add up your benefits too :lol: :lol: :lol:


Any way of faking a pregnancy? :shock: :D
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Postby Alpha_7 on Wed May 10, 2006 12:07 pm

Geoff wrote:Any way of faking a pregnancy? :shock: :D

I've certainly gained a few pounds, and come to think of it I'm a little moodier then usual but I just thought that was due to my breast pains. :shock: :shock: :shock: :lol:
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Postby Michael on Wed May 10, 2006 12:24 pm

Manta wrote:
Michael wrote:Maybe I'll store the 70-200 down my pants thay may help to woo the ladies perhaps :P


Don't forget the filter. If it's not on, it's not on.


AHAHAHAHA

oh that made me chuckle out loud!
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Postby Heath Bennett on Wed May 10, 2006 12:34 pm

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Manta wrote:
Michael wrote:Maybe I'll store the 70-200 down my pants thay may help to woo the ladies perhaps :P


Don't forget the filter. If it's not on, it's not on.


Hood on or off is optional but as Simon said don't forget the filter its the only sure protection.


HAHAHA. Make sure you read the fine print though - might say only 99% effective. If it does, by the law of averages, never use it 100 times... 99 is fine...
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Postby Heath Bennett on Wed May 10, 2006 12:45 pm

Digital City still has a deal on the D200 if any1 interested. Would be aussie stock:

http://digitalcity.net.au/store/product.asp?idProduct=2225
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Postby gstark on Wed May 10, 2006 1:06 pm

Heath Bennett wrote:Digital City still has a deal on the D200 if any1 interested. Would be aussie stock:

http://digitalcity.net.au/store/product.asp?idProduct=2225


And you'd be dealing with the knowledgable and helpful Digital City staff too. "Er, yeah, wot's a camera?"
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Postby birddog114 on Wed May 10, 2006 1:24 pm

Heath Bennett wrote:Digital City still has a deal on the D200 if any1 interested. Would be aussie stock:

http://digitalcity.net.au/store/product.asp?idProduct=2225


All have the deal on the D200 as usual, but do they have real stock in hand?
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Postby Geoff on Wed May 10, 2006 1:27 pm

birddog114 wrote:
Heath Bennett wrote:Digital City still has a deal on the D200 if any1 interested. Would be aussie stock:

http://digitalcity.net.au/store/product.asp?idProduct=2225


All have the deal on the D200 as usual, but do they have real stock in hand?


I just rang to find that out Birdy - had to leave my name and number for someone to call back, on an answering machine!?! I won't hold my breath. :o
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Postby birddog114 on Wed May 10, 2006 1:31 pm

Geoff wrote:
birddog114 wrote:
Heath Bennett wrote:Digital City still has a deal on the D200 if any1 interested. Would be aussie stock:

http://digitalcity.net.au/store/product.asp?idProduct=2225


All have the deal on the D200 as usual, but do they have real stock in hand?


I just rang to find that out Birdy - had to leave my name and number for someone to call back, on an answering machine!?! I won't hold my breath. :o


So the answer is:
Make sure before posting anything, people have to get the confirmation of supply from their sources.
Posting unreal confirmation of the availability of stock is wasting time for other.
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Postby Geoff on Wed May 10, 2006 1:47 pm

As soon as I hear Birdy, I will post the availability :).
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Postby Geoff on Wed May 10, 2006 1:48 pm

Surprise surprise!
No stock availability.
Unsure when there will be any stock.
Questions answered.
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Postby birddog114 on Wed May 10, 2006 1:56 pm

Geoff wrote:Surprise surprise!
No stock availability.
Unsure when there will be any stock.
Questions answered.


Easy answer and everyone will enjoy with this reply. :twisted: :twisted:
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Postby mitedo on Wed May 10, 2006 3:03 pm

If any of you guys are interested camera house at Maroochydore QLD have one on the shelf,playing with it on monday :D hope this helps
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Postby stubbsy on Wed May 10, 2006 3:09 pm

Can you guys PLEASE stop talking about D200's It's bad for my bank balance.
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Postby jdear on Wed May 10, 2006 3:44 pm

I did a ring around myself today for Sydney CBD retailers, and got the same message - no stock. Some tried to get a deposit off me and assured me it would only be weeks off...

*cough* bullshit *cough*

A call to maxwell told me different. - End of July odd if not already pre-ordered.

AHH!!

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I finally get enough $$ together for a DSLR and its not available :(
The 30d is looking like my next preference. (my SB800 and 50mm f1.8 will make it for sale on here if so)
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Canon must be doing well out of it, the sales guys are telling me people are buying 30d's instead.

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Postby shutterbug on Wed May 10, 2006 3:57 pm

stubbsy wrote:Can you guys PLEASE stop talking about D200's It's bad for my bank balance.


Just do it :wink: It is a great cam for the price.
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Postby Alpha_7 on Wed May 10, 2006 3:59 pm

stubbsy wrote:Can you guys PLEASE stop talking about D200's It's bad for my bank balance.

The less you have the easier it is to count Peter, what are you worried about ?
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