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by **dooda** on Sat May 13, 2006 8:11 am

An interesting thing happened to me the other day and I wanted to get your take on it.

I went fishing with this girl through business (she was hot) and I took a picture of her with her fish afterwards. I sort of directed it so the fish looked bigger and got low etc. The pic turned out pretty cool, she was beautiful, and the sky was terrific. So she ended up entering it in a fishing contest and won it. They gave her a couple of hundred dollars in gear from the outdoors store that she entered it into. She then called me and told me the news. I didn't really care that much, but I did think that technically the prize should have gone to me as I took the picture. Obviously it's something that i can live with, I'm not bothered, just curious if there's a discussion there.

by **bindiblue** on Sat May 13, 2006 8:19 am

Gee Dave hard luck on that one, I would have at least offered you the prize, but then we are all diffrent, even if she had gone halves with you,,

We live and learn dont we,,

Suzanne

by **birddog114** on Sat May 13, 2006 8:19 am

dooda,
Again, you're involved with another beautiful woman or a lovely girl! while your lovely wife was away :shock:

that why I stated on another thread: you're skilled :lol:

Truely, and yes it's, she should ask your permission prior to submit the photo and technically same as legally it's copyrighted and you're the owner.
But there's another friendship in between, dispute or non dispute is another matter from your heart.

by **dooda** on Sat May 13, 2006 8:36 am

The interesting thing is that maybe the contest wasn't about photography at all, just the best picture. Because obviously she didn't take it, as she's standing there holding the fishies.

by **ABG** on Sat May 13, 2006 9:17 am

If it is a fishing contest, for the best/biggest fish, then the prize is all hers. You've just captured/reported the moment. If it's a competition for the best pic, then surely it must be a photographic competition, in which case the prize and kudos should be yours. Just my take on it...

by **dooda** on Sat May 13, 2006 9:42 am

Well they definitely weren't big fishes. They may have looked big because she was holding them towards the camera.

by **gstark** on Sat May 13, 2006 9:54 am

Dave,

As you said in your initial post, and as Andrew has already observed, it was a fishing contest.

She caught it, not you.

I'd let it drop.

by **dooda** on Sat May 13, 2006 10:07 am

Don't misunderstand, I've long let this drop. It's not really my style to get uppity about something like this. And it was a photo contest, not a fishing contest. This post is about the discussion, not my venting.

But let's say I took a spectacular picture of her and she entered it into a contest and won a check for $10 000, or similar. What would be your recourse? Would you claim it? Explain it to the person that they profited off of your talent? Take it to the contest? Just live with it?

by **Michael** on Sat May 13, 2006 10:10 am

Well either way even if it was only a few hundred dollars and some gear I'd still be pretty sour about her getting all the gear, unless perhaps I was gaining something else from the relationship.

but if it was 10 000 she won off a photo of mine, I would not be happy at all not sure exactly what I'd do. But I definatly wouldn't be happy.

by **Rick** on Sat May 13, 2006 11:03 am

Dave,

I like fishing but I don't get to go with 'beutiful hot girls" so I'm realy jealous to start with and if you saw the ugly bastards I sit around with all day in a small boat smelling of prawns and fish guts you would be happy with the way things have gone for you.

Cheers Rick

by **glamy** on Sat May 13, 2006 11:27 am

It's funny how one can change when money gets involved. I find it disappointing...
Cheers,
Gerard

by **gstark** on Sat May 13, 2006 12:03 pm

dooda wrote:And it was a photo contest, not a fishing contest.

In your first post, you said it was a fishing contest.

Regardless, if you didn't make it clear beforehand what use she could make of the photo, too bad.

And the money makes no diference to my attitude: you need to clarify these things before the event, not afterwards.

by **Michael** on Sat May 13, 2006 12:07 pm

glamy wrote:It's funny how one can change when money gets involved. I find it disappointing...
Cheers,
Gerard

Personally I find it more disappointing when someone does something for a complete stranger just because they're hotter have big boobs.

Edit: Speeling

by **beetleboy** on Sat May 13, 2006 12:24 pm

A photo contest and the prize is fishing gear? Doesn't sound right to me. And on the other hand - who entered the photo into the competition? You? Nope, she did - so you would have got diddly squat anyway! Take the kudos and be happy for your friend!

Liam =]

by **dooda** on Sat May 13, 2006 12:48 pm

The prize was gear from a big outdoors store near where she lived. She could have used it to get clothes, backpacks, a bike etc.

Many of you're missing the point (and I did misstype the top, it was a photo contest, photos rarely win fishing contests, because the contest is generally how big the fish was).

So Gary, if someone took a terrific picture of you and you got it developed and thought "damn, that's a nice photo and the twerp didn't specify what I was able to do with it, you'd feel just fine about submitting it in a contest or trying to profit off of it?

Perhaps the consensus is that it was taken under such casual circumstances that neither should really give a rat's tushy. I thought that it might spur an interesting discussion. Of course I was happy that she got some stuff out of it.

by **beetleboy** on Sat May 13, 2006 12:52 pm

dooda wrote:Perhaps the consensus is that it was taken under such casual circumstances that neither should really give a rat's tushy. I thought that it might spur an interesting discussion. Of course I was happy that she got some stuff out of it.

That's the spirit! Good work starting the discussion tho - that worked a charm!

I think your statement here reflects what most of us are trying to say..well done!

Liam =] PS - none of that is sarcastic; I'm an Aussie, that's just how we talk!

by **sirhc55** on Sat May 13, 2006 1:14 pm

Dave - every photo I take for a client earns me some income (small). For the client it earns them a fortune :roll:

by **phillipb** on Sat May 13, 2006 1:25 pm

Only one thing I'd like to say...

POST THE BLOODY PHOTO ! :lol:

by **dooda** on Sat May 13, 2006 2:03 pm

sorry, it was taken analogue.

by **LOZ** on Sat May 13, 2006 2:46 pm

DOODA THIS STORY SOUNDS A BIT FISHY :roll:

by **gstark** on Sun May 14, 2006 12:15 am

dooda wrote:So Gary, if someone took a terrific picture of you and you got it developed and thought "damn, that's a nice photo and the twerp didn't specify what I was able to do with it, you'd feel just fine about submitting it in a contest or trying to profit off of it?

Dave,

A couple of points here.

First of all, "somebody took a terrific picture" of me? There's a challenge, and that surely should be worthy of a prize.

More seriously, putting the question in the manner that you have here makes it very easy for me to answer, as it would be highly unlikely that I'd enter the photo in a contest: I simply don't enter contests.

More topically, and addressing the point I thinkyou're trying to make, no, I really wouldn't be in any way concerned. If I have given away the image - which is truly the case here - then I need to be prepared to accept all of the consequences of that action.

Because of my contacts within the blues music industry here, I get asked by a number of local musos to shoot them for their publicity and/or CD cover shots. Or I get asked if they can use the images that I've shot at the various gigs around town.

I have yet to say no, and I have yet ask for sort of compensation of any kind. When asked, I'll PP the images that they want, and I'll send them hiRes versions. The sole requirement I make is for a simple acknowledgement to be made, and I don't check anythingbeyond what they tell me.

I'm not really seeing any real differences (in principal) here.

by **dooda** on Sun May 14, 2006 5:01 pm

Well put Gary. I agree as it's basically what I did and I didn't harbour any ill feelings towards her.

It would have been harder to swallow had she made serious cash with it. Then again they probably chose it because she's hot.

by **byrt_001** on Sun May 14, 2006 5:14 pm

hi

so how hot was she??

i have to agree with phillipb....

christian

by **dooda** on Sun May 14, 2006 5:32 pm

I captured a similar picture recently. This should give you an idea.

http://static.flickr.com/53/145943965_2edbbebff9.jpg

by **redline** on Sun May 14, 2006 7:41 pm

at least you didn't post the goatse image

by **MATT** on Sun May 14, 2006 7:57 pm

gstark wrote:Dave,

As you said in your initial post, and as Andrew has already observed, it was a fishing contest.

She caught it, not you.

I'd let it drop.

Agreed.. besides you said yourself she was hot

MATT