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by beetleboy on Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:50 pm
Has anyone noticed if their D70's viewfinder is quite innaccurate? I'm a little concerned that this may just be a problem I'm having with my D70 but would appreciate if others could give me some feedback! I did a test with my 50mm and 80-200mm and the problem is more obvious with the 50mm as you get closer to your subject. In fact, when shooting products at a shopping centre on Wednesday I was about 45cm away (around the minimum focus of the 50mm 1.  and found I had to compose the left most product right against the top edge of the frame (shooting vertical) to get the products in the centre....
My biggest concern with this is when I'm shooting from the hip - you don't have so much time to consider composing then reframing to "guess" where you're cropping!
I'm also aware that there will be a little bit of inconsistency but this seems pretty extreme. If anyone wants to comment on the composition/image quality; go right ahead! Feedback is always welcome!
The red outline is what I was seeing thru the viewfinder.....
This is the 50mm 1.8
80-200mm at 80mm
80-200mm at 200mm
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by Alpha_7 on Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:55 pm
I've never really tested mine, but I've often gotten back home and thought... I'm sure that was composed with a bit more space here or there.
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by beetleboy on Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:06 pm
I should have done a test up close with the 50mm because it becomes quite extreme..i'll see if I can find the image I mentioned in the post.
Here tis..
50mm at Minimum Focus:

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by greencardigan on Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:18 pm
I can't say I have noticed this problem with mine.
Looks a bit excessive to me.
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by beetleboy on Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:22 pm
Tell me about it! I'm not sure if this has always been the case with my camera but it would explain a few 'foot-chopping' incidents!
How could something like this be restricted to just my camera tho? Was the guy drunk when he stuck my CCD in?!
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by glamy on Fri Jun 02, 2006 4:22 pm
Mine seems to be the same. I always get too much sky and so on... I think it is because the viewfinder does not show the whole area of the sensor, and the hidden area seems to be at the top which can be on the left when you shoot in portrait.
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by beetleboy on Fri Jun 02, 2006 4:35 pm
I'd be happy if it was just giving me more on the top but the fact that it crops off the bottom is what really concerns me!
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by Marvin on Fri Jun 02, 2006 5:50 pm
Yes, mine is the same. I've tested it similarly after being positive that I lined it up very horizontal and ending up with a horizon that tilts down slightly to the right. I just put up with it!
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by Nosh on Fri Jun 02, 2006 5:57 pm
Any Idea if the D70s has the same problem?
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by beetleboy on Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:01 pm
No idea..
I'm hoping the D200 doesn't!!
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by Nosh on Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:07 pm
just saw this on Ken Rockwell's site. Normally everything taken with a pinch or handful of salt, but seems there is substance in the last paragraph.
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d70perf.htm#finder
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by beetleboy on Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:15 pm
He was lucky, his is only slighlty rotated! I managed to score that AND more!
I'm surprised it's taken me so long to notice but maybe it's because something has changed?!
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by redline on Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:28 pm
i think my d70 is fine. it helps with my trademark shooting drift action.
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by Grev on Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:27 am
I don't think mine is that bad...
Although yeah, I remember it being off a bit, and sometimes if you compose things near the edge it will be a problem.
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by Steffen on Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:38 am
Ha, that's the problem with 90% finders. I had the same effect with with FE2. They didn't say the 90% were centered in the frame, did they?
Get a D2 and be happy
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by MattC on Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:45 am
I guess that I have been lucky then... 6 out of 6 are spot on.
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by Yi-P on Sat Jun 03, 2006 8:04 pm
The "ball" is around the centre of the viewfinder (aligned with focus mark)
I might need to do some more test to determine if this is correct or not...
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by beetleboy on Sat Jun 03, 2006 8:17 pm
Yours doesn't look too bad!
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by cordy on Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:06 am
Just to add to this, mine is out of alignment too. Might get them to sort it out when it goes in to get the bglod/stuffed light meter problems fixed
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by greencardigan on Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:29 am
I had a very quick look at mine and it seems OK with the sensor capturing a little bit around all sides of the viewfinder image.
I might test a bit more in depth if I find the time.
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by greencardigan on Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:24 pm
Here's what mine looks like. Not too bad but still annoying.
The red markers were right in the corner of the view finder. The black line in the first one is the extent of the viewfinder.

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by beetleboy on Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:30 pm
wow..yours is a bazillion times more accurate than mine! The only slight issue with yours is the tilt, but i have that AND the huge displacement!
I wonder if there's any way of rectifying it?
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by greencardigan on Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:34 pm
beetleboy wrote:I wonder if there's any way of rectifying it?
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Bump it again?
No idea. You might need to get Maxwells to look at it.
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by rokkstar on Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:38 pm
I tell you what, I've noticed that mine has an extreme tilt to it so much so that I have to physically tilt the camera quite a lot to get an accurate image.
Now I know most people will laugh and tell me it's my technique but it happens even when it's on a tripod. I have to adjust the head to compensate for the tilt.
I'm used to it now, but it's certainly annoying
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by beetleboy on Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:39 pm
might wait till my D200 arrives then get it checked out..
or i might just drop it and see what happens =]
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by Yi-P on Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:39 pm
beetleboy wrote:might wait till my D200 arrives then get it checked out..
or i might just drop it and see what happens =]
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by Mal on Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:52 pm
Interesting post.
I just did a check on my D70 and I seem to be lucky. I get an extra bleed all around the edge. No tilting, just more frame. Explains a few things, like how I thought I cropped something only to find out later that it was in the shot.
Mal I've got a camera, it's black. I've got some lens, they are black as well.
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by MattC on Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:02 pm
Mal, thats normal. IIRC, the D70 VF only displays about 95% of what the sensor sees.
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by admajic on Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:03 pm
My D50 is the same as Mals. Perfectly straight with some bleed around the edges. Ill have to test it though. What do u do take a photo of a piece of paper with a rectangle drawn in it?
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by MattC on Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:10 pm
That'll do it. I used a largish notepad and aligned two edges in the VF and took several shots with notepad aligned in different corners. Too lazy to draw a proper rectangle. That is enough to get a feel for what is going on.
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by greencardigan on Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:13 pm
admajic wrote:What do u do take a photo of a piece of paper with a rectangle drawn in it?
I just pointed the camera at a wall and stuck the red sticky things on the wall so they were only just visable in the view finder.
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by beetleboy on Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:37 pm
I'm glad I brought this up cos at least now I know mine is definitely out of whack. Think I might pop the mirror up tonight and have a look under the bonnet..maybe I dropped a nut in the carbie or something?!
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