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Another monitor calibration help thread.

Postby owen on Sat May 06, 2006 6:25 pm

Hi Guys.

I've just calibrated my monitor and have done a test print out on a Fuji Frontier printer at harvey normans.

So in Photoshop I said Image - Convert to... and then chose the Frontier profile that I downloaded. In theory this should then give very similar results to how the print should turn out, correct?

HOwever one of the prints had a very orange tinge, when on the screen it didn't. The other print also didn't look very much like it did on screen.

Am I missing a step in this process?

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Postby big pix on Sat May 06, 2006 6:30 pm

Owen...... you will learn a lot from this site.......... become a member and learn a lot more........ you may have a spyder but this site will teach you a lot about colour..........

http://intl.i1color.com/index.cfm/MenuI ... bID/23.htm
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Postby owen on Sat May 06, 2006 6:36 pm

I just calibrated my second monitor and there is a massive difference between them. I will try to do the first again and see how it turns out.

Thanks for the site bigpix, I will definitely check it out.

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Postby owen on Sat May 06, 2006 7:28 pm

Nope, the first monitor is still off and different to the second one.

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Postby shakey on Sat May 06, 2006 7:32 pm

Make sure adobe gamma is not loading as well.
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Postby big pix on Sat May 06, 2006 7:35 pm

are they both running off the same video card........... if so does the card support dual screens....... or 2 different computers.......the luminance must be set the same for both screens

EDIT: the age of the screens and make of screen are also variants
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Postby owen on Sat May 06, 2006 8:25 pm

I think that they are closer now... but there may still be a difference. I will find some time to experiment more in the next few days and see how it goes. Thanks for the help guys.
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Postby Steffen on Sun May 07, 2006 1:11 am

Owen, get them to print a b/w image. I mean, desaturate an image all the way down and then submit it for printing. No matter which way your monitor is calibrated you should get a "Koday gray card" neutral print. If there is any colour cast in the print they're not doing a good job.

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Postby owen on Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:48 pm

Hi Guys.

This colour management is still a problem for me. I've just got the spyder back and recalibrated the monitor, but no matter what I do, the screen output just doesn't match the print output. Is there something obvious that I'm not doing right?

I have pretty much ruled out a problem at the printers end, as I got prints done at two different places and they matched each other exactly, yet were different to how they appeared on my monitor.

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Postby Steffen on Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:26 am

owen wrote:I have pretty much ruled out a problem at the printers end, as I got prints done at two different places and they matched each other exactly, yet were different to how they appeared on my monitor.


I'd never rule out a problem at the printing end, but of they all come back looking identical, that's a bit sus. Are you sure the images you submit for printing are tagged with the right colour space? Maybe the printers' colour spaces are too different from standard sRGB or aRGB, to make a meaningful conversion possible?

Can you ask the print labs for a printer profile to proof your images in? Can you process in Pro Photo 16bit (and can they print it)? That should cover the capabilities of most output devices.

What was your specific problem again? If the prints look too dark you may simply not have sufficient light to view them under?

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Postby owen on Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:22 am

Hi Steffen.

I was beginning to think that perhaps it is the light that I am viewing the images under, but they did come out quite a bit darker than on screen. For example http://www.ausphotos.com/gallery/d/285-2/cows.jpg the orange was significant darker and the whole image although it is a silhouette, was darker.

I downloaded a printer profile from the website and used that to convert my images to, then saved them as jpeg and sent them off. I'm 100% certain that the images were converted to the frontier profile that I downloaded.

If I can confirm that the method I'm using should bring about the correct results, then I can perhaps try a different monitor and check the results.

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