**Challenge 3: A Different Perspective**

[MHD]

After a stunning victory in Challenge 2: Nature in Black and White, Jordanp (Craig) has just sent me the Theme for Challenge 3

Theme: A Different Perspective - where to best fit the theme the subject must be taken from a different perspective, creative composition which adds something to the image appeal.

Awesome! This is really going to give some people a go! We go from having difficulties with dark an light to an entirely different problem....

Now this one is going to be a long comp so expect awesome quality images! Lots of time to practice and develop a portfolio and pick what you think is a winner!

Timeline:
Image valid from: 12:01am 1st of January 2005
Submit start: 5pm 1st of Febuary 2005
Submit close: 7pm 28th of Febuary 2005
Voting start by: 9am 1st of March 2005
Voting close:9am 3rd of march 2005 (My birthday!)

I reserve the right to play with the announce date (and perhaps changing the close date by a day or two) based around organising a users meet to anounce the winner of the comp (Perhaps a pub meet over a coopers or two to celebrate!) I will make sure that the exact date of the end and announce are locked in early Febuary

And the prize... well talk about genourus! (Check Birddog's thread!)

Your log ins from the previous post are still valid... those who have not registered yet you can do so after Jan 10th

There might be some changes to the mechanics of the site (January is looking a tad busy for me so it may or may not happen...)

So start looking around and get creative people!

[PlatinumWeaver]

Crap - I leave on the 3rd of March..

Other than that.. great idea!

[sirhc55]

Nice one MHD - my birthday is on the 9th - a couple of Pisces - maybe we will be joint winners. . .

Cheers

Chris

[Onyx]

Great. Thanks for organising this MHD, thanks for donating the prizes Birddog, thanks to setting a topic that would hopefulyl challenge each and every one of us and make us learn more about the art photography JordanP.

[W00DY]

I missed challenge 2 but I am making an effort for this one.

Even though I don't really know what the topic is refering to

God I feel stupid sometimes

W00DY

[JordanP]

go to this link and look at the basket ball shot. There are a few other sports examples of "different perspectives" on this site. .... like the pole vaulter and the beam gymnist.

http://www.daveblackphotography.com/sports-images/sports-scene.htm

cheers,

[beetleboy]

Damn..

I'm leaving the country on the 17th Jan and won't be back until the end of March!

Oh, but hang on..i'm going to Africa for 9 weeks! Bonus!

Liam =]

[dooda]

Does anyone know where I can rent a cheap crane with a harness?

[Greg B]

Does anyone know where I can rent a cheap crane with a harness?

Yes, also includes Courtney, your call on whether you or Courtney is in the harness. Good luck.

[Raydar]

This is going to be interesting!!!!!!!

Cheers
Ray

[Killakoala]

Hmmmm, time to flex the 'art' muscle.

[PlatinumWeaver]

hang on..i'm going to Africa

Me too!!

[johndec]

Unfortunately, I didn't join this amazing community in time to be part of the earlier challenges, but I'll be having a go at this one. What a great yet challenging topic

My only problem is that all the scenarios I've thought of so far seem likely to endanger either me or more importantly my D70

Anyone know where I can get cheap skydiving lessons? Just joking!!!

[Matt. K]

Hmmmmm. A different perspective? Is that geometrical perspective?...or social, cultural perspective? Damn this forum! Got to stay up all night until I figure this thing out. No sleep for a long time. Perspective as in aerial photography??? Or something that doesn't conform to the ineluctable modalities of life?
Damn! Why couldn't he just have said a bowl of fruit!
I could do a bowl of fruit. Hmmmm a different perspective on a bowl of fruit?
Nah.

[johndec]

Matt - join the frustrated queue. I've had several ideas but I think it's going to take something very "abstract" to get the bikkies here

[ru32day]

Love the topic - no idea what to shoot yet - it certainly is a challenge.

[Onyx]

A different perspective - could we just have like a lame picture but cropped in a different way, such as a square frame or better yet, a circular frame!

[phillipb]

And to make things worse, you're not allowed to play with perspective in photoshop... Or are you?

[dooda]

Does anyone know of software that puts a "perspective" button on the tool bar? Does anyone here think they can develop that? It would be quite simple in principle. For example: I take a photo of some cyclists. I put it in my computer and hit the perspective button, and presto, the perspective becomes fresh and interesting. Surely it isn't that difficult to create something so simple in concept?

[Raydar]

Like all, I’ve been thinking about this, it will take me most of the time limit to work out what the hell I’m going to do.
I’m going to turn to the Dictionary & see how Perspective is interrupted, see if that gives the head a kick start

Here this mite help every one to get an idea.

a. A view or vista.
b. A mental view or outlook: “It is useful occasionally to look at the past to gain a perspective on the present” (Fabian Linden).
2. The appearance of objects in depth as perceived by normal binocular vision.
3.
a. The relationship of aspects of a subject to each other and to a whole: a perspective of history; a need to view the problem in the proper perspective.
b. Subjective evaluation of relative significance; a point of view: the perspective of the displaced homemaker.
c. The ability to perceive things in their actual interrelations or comparative importance: tried to keep my perspective throughout the crisis.
4. The technique of representing three-dimensional objects and depth relationships on a two-dimensional surface.


Cheers
Ray

[PlatinumWeaver]

Damn! Why couldn't he just have said a bowl of fruit!
I could do a bowl of fruit. Hmmmm a different perspective on a bowl of fruit?
Nah.

How about this?
Take one fruit bowl, fill with different fruits. Then take the fruits and turn them all inside out ( this might take a while ). Place fruits back in bowl, stand on head, take photo..

Presto Chango!! A new perspective!!

[JordanP]

Slightly simpler, you could place the fruit in a glass bowl - put it on a glas table. Drink lots of red wine and when you find yourself laying under the table take the photo of the fruit. ..... with a few empty bottles of red on the table as well.

[sirhc55]

Like all, I’ve been thinking about this, it will take me most of the time limit to work out what the hell I’m going to do.
I’m going to turn to the Dictionary & see how Perspective is interrupted, see if that gives the head a kick start

Here this mite help every one to get an idea.

a. A view or vista.
b. A mental view or outlook: “It is useful occasionally to look at the past to gain a perspective on the present” (Fabian Linden).
2. The appearance of objects in depth as perceived by normal binocular vision.
3.
a. The relationship of aspects of a subject to each other and to a whole: a perspective of history; a need to view the problem in the proper perspective.
b. Subjective evaluation of relative significance; a point of view: the perspective of the displaced homemaker.
c. The ability to perceive things in their actual interrelations or comparative importance: tried to keep my perspective throughout the crisis.
4. The technique of representing three-dimensional objects and depth relationships on a two-dimensional surface.


Cheers
Ray

Sorry Ray but after reading this I am admitting myself to the nearest mental hospital for deranged photographers - or I might go out to lunch. . .

Chris

[Bruno]

say i wanted to capture something from multiple angles, arrange say 4 of them into '1' photo, would this be allowed?

this is a tough theme to shoot

[W00DY]

Do the same rules apply for the last 2 challenges???

IE: no photoshop work?

[sirhc55]

Do the same rules apply for the last 2 challenges???

IE: no photoshop work?

Woody - you had to use PS in challenge 2 to to get B&W!

Chris

[MHD]

Do the same rules apply for the last 2 challenges???

IE: no photoshop work?

Yep... nothing that changes the "image", ie no composits, warps etc...

but things like: crops, levels, WB (inc B&W and sepia), dustoff etc... allowed

[W00DY]

Do the same rules apply for the last 2 challenges???

IE: no photoshop work?

Woody - you had to use PS in challenge 2 to to get B&W!

Chris

you know what I meant.... Now get back to work!!!!!

[Greg B]

Well this is an amazing degree of analysis, including Ray's heavily deconstructionist approach.

Might not Jordan simply mean to photograph something from a different point of view than we would normally see it?

[JordanP]

You got it in one greg. A different perspective (perhaps as simple as angle) that puts a clever/pleasing slant on the image.

If you photograph a bowl of fruit and it is just the same as we normally see it - you have missed the theme.

The idea behind it is to get us looking at things from something other than 5-6 foot of the ground.

[Greg B]

You got it in one greg. .

Woohoo. When do I collect the lens?

[Onyx]

Woohoo. When do I collect the lens?

When you win!

[Raydar]

I take back my last post!!!!

I thought it sucked when I came up with that hog’s wallop & now I know it, after thinking about the subject at hand I mite just have to go down on something. “Hope I’m aloud to say things like that??”

Cheers
Ray

[Vicareyus]

Oh, I dont know Ray...don't be too hard on yourself. I thought your post quite interesting. But...going down on something...you'll really see things from a different perspective...but maybe we all don't have to see that photographically...
Vic

[Geoff]

This challenge has really got me thinking...insurance for the forum? If I fall out of a tree (trying to get a different perspective) will I be covered? hahahaha..just kidding. I am racking my brains trying to come up with an imaginative idea of where to 'shoot' something to get from a different perspectives. There are a few sporty type scenarios I can think of, but if I say more I will have to kill you all, and that would mean the end of the forum..and that would be terrible. Perhaps I shouldn't be posting at this silly hour..I am a little sleep deprived!


Geoff.

[rokkstar]

Man,

This is a toughie isn't it.
Everytime my girlfriend talks to me all I can hear her say is
"a different perspective matt"

How is everyone else finding this?

[MHD]

Hard!

[JordanP]

I came up with this silly idea and I still don't know what I'm going to do.

[birddog114]

I came up with this silly idea and I still don't know what I'm going to do.

You've killed yourself
There're a real big one in June & July, ready for the Forum Anni. conference, real big prizes too! keep your eyes on them.

[sirhc55]

For those who have mind blocks on perspective photos check these sites out:

http://www.bmw-forums.com/forum/topic28625.html
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jvk/286461/
http://www.maion.com/photography/search/index.php?q=perspective

Chris

[dooda]

Check out this picture as well. This is a great perspective. Some fellow named bombdog.

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1290276&size=o

[Greg B]

Everytime my girlfriend talks to me all I can hear her say is
"a different perspective matt"

Are you sure that's about the competition?

[Greg B]

Come on guys, you're over analysing I think.

You just need a photograph of something from a viewpoint that is different to the usual day to day viewpoint.

e.g.
- A photograph of people walking along the footpath taken from ground level (don't get arrested), or
- A photograph of a tree taken from the top looking down (don't fall out), or
- A photograph of someone taken upwards through a glass top coffee table (I loved Portnoy's Complaint when I was 15)

I don't think we are using perspective in the technical sense.

Jordan, it is your baby - is this what you meant?

[JordanP]

Sure Greg,

They all comply ... the hardest thing isn't coming up with just a different perspective - but coming up with one the will compliment or enhance the composition, while winning the competition. ...... that's the cahllenge!!

[MHD]

Indeed... The theme is not a hard set rule... but as we have seen in past challenges people who dont have elements of the theme in thier photos generally get harshly judged by the voters!

[sirhc55]

”different perspective” is a very nebulous subject as we all see things differently and that is what makes this so hard. A photo taken that blows ones own mind could be quite mundane to others.

But I guess that is what we are up against

Hopefully, in the future, we may have a challenge that is titled ”Inside out and round about - photograph it”

Chris

[rokkstar]

As I havent entered the other challenges can you let me know how many shots we are allowed to submit?

Cheers
matt

[MHD]

one shot

[dooda]

Are we going to be able to see the entries as they are submitted or do we have to wait until the deadline is up? Also, are we going to email them to you this time. Forgive me but I was just wondering as I have ideas blooming. I guess I'm a bit antsy but this challenge is starting to come together.

[MHD]

Yes you will be able to see the images... and at the moment it is looking likely that submission will be by email which will allow for larger submissions...