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by Matt. K on Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:54 am
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by BT*ist on Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:30 am
300 years with proper handling? Now that's a timeframe I can endorse! (let's see... I'd want to backup those backups after maybe 220-230 years, just to be on the safe side )
How much?
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by gstark on Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:36 am
Thanx, Matt.
Looks interesting ..... but ....
How is proper handling defined?
And how do Kodak define a year in this context? They've been known to redfine the terms "day" and "year" in order to make it look like their prints last a lot longer than they do.
I think it's always a good idea to treat any sort of marketing claim with a degree of cynicism.
g. Gary Stark Nikon, Canon, Bronica .... stuff The people who want English to be the official language of the United States are uncomfortable with their leaders being fluent in it - US Pres. Bartlet
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by sirhc55 on Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:39 am
So it would appear that a time machine does exist and it’s owned by Kodak
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by MATT on Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:10 pm
Anything fr DVD's that will last 10yrs would be good enough.. But they make some bold claims.
Be interesting to see price also.
This has reminded me its time for a backup..
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by paulvdb1 on Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:52 pm
Uses 24-karat (sic) gold. Clear proof of media spin. I imagine that's Kodak pseudo 24-carat gold.
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by Matt. K on Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:29 pm
Gary
Proper handling is defined as 'Kept in a biologically free vacuum chamber'.
The moment you touch it the warrenty is void.
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by Steffen on Sat Sep 02, 2006 2:27 am
MATT wrote:Anything fr DVD's that will last 10yrs would be good enough..
Actually, the "good" DVD-R's do that already, easily. With good I mean metal-azo dye based. Like the Mitsubishi Chemical Corp made ones.
In fact, stability of the dye isn't really the issue (unless we're talking cheap crap, or RW's). It's mechanical failure we have to worry about, esp delaminating., due to undue stress (like when trying to get them out of the brain-dead case).
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by gstark on Sat Sep 02, 2006 9:22 am
Matt. K wrote:Gary Proper handling is defined as 'Kept in a biologically free vacuum chamber'. The moment you touch it the warrenty is void.
Sounds about right.
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by Ivanerrol on Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:02 pm
So, is the long time frame valid for data written with a $ 30.00 CD writer in your home computer or a $ 30.000 unit down at Kodak's Lab or a $ 200.000 unit in the film studio?
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by Onyx on Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:40 pm
Anyone know where I can buy a new betamax player to play some of my dad's betamax tape collection? Just seeing if they live up to their 50yr lifetime claim...
I'm sure you can draw the parallels....
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by whiz on Sat Sep 02, 2006 5:49 pm
Dye stability IS the biggest problem with CD's and DVD's.
All tests show that quite conclusively. Google for CD and DVD longevity and you'll get a few studies. Nist's one is best.
Mechanical failure only occurs with excessive spin rate. I've seen one Microsoft office CD explode in a drive and one Linux burnt CD.
The others have been CD's and DVD's spun up with a dremel tool, then knocked onto the floor.
They were spectacular and rather dangerous in terms of sharp high velocity polycarbonate.
People put way too much rubbish in signature blocks.
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