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Postby stubbsy on Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:23 pm

Yikes. I can't decide between these three images as to which best fits the Fred Hollows theme of All things ordinary look extraordinary. So I need your help:

Which one #1, #2 or #3 (you can click for a larger version)?

#1
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#2
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#3 (this one's a gas flame outside a restaurant)
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Postby Manta on Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:27 pm

Peter - what a dilemma!!!

I love the artsy nature of the gas flame but, for me, the boats have taken on an ethereal aspect that's hard to beat.
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Postby moz on Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:36 pm

Yeah, mee too on the boats. There's just something that holds my eye there.
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Postby ozczecho on Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:38 pm

Peter, the boats are awesome.

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Postby adam on Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:10 pm

I like them in the order posted :) First the first, 2nd the 2nd (boats), and lastly the fire :)
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Postby Geoff on Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:20 pm

Peter, me too!! One, two and three, in that order!! LOVE your work matey :)
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Postby gstark on Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:28 pm

Two, two, and then two. :)
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Postby Oz_Beachside on Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:29 pm

wow, inspiring, I'm heading down to the Marina this weekend...


I love the boats, love the high contrast of white against black.

From the theme point of view, I really like the first, since the ocean is more "common place" than a marina.

All great images, thanks for sharing.

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Postby myarhidia on Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:22 pm

Hi Stubbsy,

#2 is a great shot, my favourite out of the three, however, it is just a photo of boats in a marina, IMO, nothing extraordinary. Please note, I'm not putting this photo down, it is a fantastic shot & I absolutely love it.

In line with the theme, ALL THINGS ORDINARY, LOOK EXTRAORDINARY you cannot go past #3 the flame, it looks like a man dancing, nothing ordinary about that.
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Postby asaroha on Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:47 pm

I agree with myarhidia.

While all 3 are truly beautiful shots, I personally think #3 fits the theme best.
#1 is a bit hard to recognize as an ORDINARY object and #2 is just doesn't scream EXTRAORDINARY
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Postby Oscar on Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:47 am

Peter, what a dilemma. My personal preferences are #2 then #1 & then #3. In the context of the contest my thinking would probably be #3, #1 & #2.
However the dilemma is how do we expect the judges to pick their favourite. Maybe they will pick the boats as it is a truly superb shot or the pool as it is a nature shot which also looks superb. Or then a gain will they recognize the beauty of the dancing flame?

Too much for my humble opinion. I'd be tempted to enter all three. :)
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Postby gstark on Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:02 am

Mick,

I'm not sure that there's any judging of these images, beyond the judgement the purchasers might make.
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Postby Oscar on Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:09 am

Duh! Just read the announcement a bit further. In that case is it just a matter of which shot you would like to get accepted and have sold?
Think I'd go with the boats - I'm sure a lot of people would part with some cash for that shot. Cheers, Mick
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Postby Laurie on Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:54 am

ohly pcra!!
I cant even speak enlish after seeing the 2nd pic.

absoutley stunning stubbsy! very very much like it!!
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Postby pippin88 on Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:41 pm

Peter, I really like the second image. But, I've seen it many times, and each time I feel like the boats are going to float down to the right side of the photo. Horizon doesn't feel level to me.
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Postby Matt. K on Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:41 pm

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Image #4! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Postby stubbsy on Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:39 am

Thank you all for your comments. It seems the boats at the marina is the general consensus and I've gone with that image. But I took Nick's advice and straightened the horizon.
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Postby sirhc55 on Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:47 am

Image #3, portrait counter clockwise and titled The Flame Flower
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Postby rokkstar on Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:54 am

I actually preferred the original shot you put up Peter, but this one is no slouch either. Great shot.

What resolution and sizing are you uploading it with? I know this has been covered somewhere but I can't locate the correct thread.
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Postby MHD on Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:02 am

As big as you can Matt....
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Postby stubbsy on Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:21 am

Chris, Matt - don't do this to me!

Matt - I originally scaled the image to be 16" X 10.5", but I'm in the middle of uploading a new version that's scaled up to be 32" x 21" @ 200 ppi resolution (images are to be 20 x 16 framed, this is twice what is needed since I figure that will give more detail - but see my tag line below :wink: ). I tried it with Genuine Fractals AND with just PSCS2 and decide PSCS2 was better & faster (I used Bicubic sharper resampling). I then changed the image to 8 bit colour and converted to sRGB with Perceptual rendering. The resultant jpeg was 7.1Mb (max upload size is 8)

Here's what Oz said about framing:
Oz_Beachside wrote:PLEASE NOTE, 16 x 20 or 20 x 16 IS THE MOUNT SIZE. NOT the image print size. For example, I will have the prints mounted at 16 x 20 inches, but the images must be smaller. If you wanted to have a 2" margin/border matt board (top , left and right sides), and 3" footer, your image should be just a tad over 11x16, or thats how I would see the printing.
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Postby Oz_Beachside on Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:20 pm

Hello,

A big thanks to those already posted images, there are 12 great images in there already.

Thats 84 people's sight may be saved.

Lets keep going... I know I am still to grab a pic...

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Postby rokkstar on Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:15 pm

I've uploaded a 300dpi at 16cm x 25cm (approx) which is 6" x 10". Will they printed at 300dpi or reduced to say 200? Or should I resample and re-upload?

Can't understand why I'm having so much trouble with this printing malarky.
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Postby stubbsy on Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:13 pm

Matt

If they were being inkjet printed my understanding is printers are actually only around 240 dpi from my reading of this article, but I'm guessing they'll be done at a lab so I'm not certain of that.
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Postby marcotrov on Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:44 pm

All three are worthy Peter but I'd go with #3. Terrific!
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Postby zafra52 on Sat Sep 16, 2006 4:23 pm

I like the second best because of the glass reflection and the symmetric arrangement. Of course the other photos are also very good. I guess it all depends on how they are framed and where they end up being hung.
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