Pre PMA Nikon leak! don't take this too seriously

[birddog114]

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read. ... e=12101277

[Glen]

Very interesting Birddy, the mythical vertical grip and the mythical 70-300 AFS VR! Even the D200

[birddog114]

Very interesting Birddy, the mythical vertical grip and the mythical 70-300 AFS VR! Even the D200

Just wait and see, I have no feeling of they're real, nowaday, people can manipulate anything and the real is just our guessing and dreaming.

[birddog114]

If the grip is real then it'll kill the Harbortronis same as HK Jenis stuff.

[ishman]

Hey Birdie,

This is in Japanese. Do you have the English version.

Cheers!

[birddog114]

Hey Birdie,

This is in Japanese. Do you have the English version.

Cheers!

Can't you read Japanese? nor do I! I stole the link from DPR.

[ishman]

hey hey not talented as you are mate

forget the language the site does not have pics.

Cheers!

[birddog114]

hey hey not talented as you are mate

forget the language the site does not have pics.

Cheers!

The leak never has the pics but if it's the real leak, they will be pulled out very soon, damm! I have to forget sourcing all the housing of underwater or in the air, am going to source a Japanese GF, perhaps it will help.

[birddog114]

I may create a fake leak in one of the thread and you'll see how many new members joining us in a short time.

[ishman]

ok, Curiosity killed the cat - i attempted to translate the site using free tool and it seems that Nikon has removed the information from all links.



Here is the link to try yourself.

http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/translate.dyn

[birddog114]

ok, Curiosity killed the cat - i attempted to translate the site using free tool and it seems that Nikon has removed the information from all links.



Here is the link to try yourself.

http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/translate.dyn

Yes, that's! I've just got an email from a friends in the US and he talked about it once he read in English after the translation and now, I asked him to send me the documents in word doc or Adobe pdf, but he lost everything too!

[sirhc55]

If any of this is true then going on todays prices we would be looking at:

D200 $3,600
MB-D70 $447.00
10-18 $982.00
70-300VR $1181.00

[birddog114]

If any of this is true then going on todays prices we would be looking at:

D200 $3,600
MB-D70 $447.00
10-18 $982.00
70-300VR $1181.00

D200 is excellent price if it's true and real spec. as leaked.
MB-D70 same price as the MB-D100 (D100) possibility it's true.
10-18 Don't know, lot of distortion have to try it first
70-300VR/ f.4 It's ridiculous price! 70-300G is $150.00, keep the change for the good tripod instead of

[leek]

The English translation of the pages is (very roughly):

It cannot access to the page which it tries that the customer will access. Adjusting to the renewal of the sight, there is a possibility where it is moved or is deleted, or. Site map in regard to reference, please search the page. In addition, we request the reregistration of the book mark according to need.

Otherwise known as Page Not Found...

Maybe the links have been pulled, or maybe the originator of the hoax used the site's error detection to put up realistic looking links...

[birddog114]

The English translation of the pages is (very roughly):

It cannot access to the page which it tries that the customer will access. Adjusting to the renewal of the sight, there is a possibility where it is moved or is deleted, or. Site map in regard to reference, please search the page. In addition, we request the reregistration of the book mark according to need.

Otherwise known as Page Not Found...

Maybe the links have been pulled, or maybe the originator of the hoax used the site's error detection to put up realistic looking links...

That what my thoughts, lot of guy with creatively brain around and have nothing to do, like teasing people.

[Nnnnsic]

I don't think so.

That's the translation of the page there at the moment... and if you look, every page is identical and are all similar to a 404 Error... as in, the information isn't there and has been pulled.

Nikon-Image.com is owned by Nikon Japan:
Nikon Corp (NIKON-IMAGE-DOM)
fuji bldg, 2-3 marunouchi 3-chome
chiyoda-ku, tokyo 100-8331
JP


I'd say this is very real, but someone leaked it too early and Nikon Japan weren't too impressed so they pulled it for the moment.

[birddog114]

I don't think so.

That's the translation of the page there at the moment... and if you look, every page is identical and are all similar to a 404 Error... as in, the information isn't there and has been pulled.

Nikon-Image.com is owned by Nikon Japan:
Nikon Corp (NIKON-IMAGE-DOM)
fuji bldg, 2-3 marunouchi 3-chome
chiyoda-ku, tokyo 100-8331
JP


I'd say this is very real, but someone leaked it too early and Nikon Japan weren't too impressed so they pulled it for the moment.

Hope it comes true! cos I knew so many fellows hold off the purchase of the D70 to see if there's anything else better and lower price than the D70!
Sweet dream! my best wishes to all of them!

$3600.00 for the D200, it's unreal!!!!! go for it!

[Nnnnsic]

I'll just take the vertical grip.

A licensed one... sweet... no loss of warranty and it'll prob. look better!

[MattC]

If it is real, it would be interesting to see if Nikon has managed to work the command and sub-command dials into the grip. USB interface??? Would it even be possible. If it is just a battery pack and shutter release, then I will give it a miss. I am used to the contortions now.
70-300VR??? Who would waste their money on VR for such inexpensive optics. Mind you, the optics were probably reworked to accomodate the VR if this is for real.
10-18 could be interesting. Not for me though.
D200 street price would probably be less. I will check this camera out when it hits the stores. It would be a serious contender as a d70 upgrade for me later in the year.

Cheers

Matt

[Nnnnsic]

If it had a USB interface, I wonder how hard it would be to plug some USB devices like say.. oh.. I don't know.. a USB Wi-Fi card in and get it working...

[birddog114]

If it had a USB interface, I wonder how hard it would be to plug some USB devices like say.. oh.. I don't know.. a USB Wi-Fi card in and get it working...

Lot of interesting stuff!huh!

[MattC]

Now that would be interesting.

Cheers

Matt

[johndec]

When is PMA?

The mythical AF-S 70-300 for less than $AU1200. Hope it's true!!!

[Nnnnsic]

Mid-to-late February, isn't it?

[birddog114]

Mid-to-late February, isn't it?

Yes,

Johndec,
70-300 AF-S VR f.4 for that such of price? it's good?
You better buy (I know you have) the 70-300 and leave the change for the nice tripod.

[georgie]

Hi New to the forum and posting for the first time

Just thought it was interesting that there was no mention of the D50 which was "supposed" to be announced at the PMA to keep Canon on their toes.

Still, means nothing though...

[birddog114]

Hi New to the forum and posting for the first time

Just thought it was interesting that there was no mention of the D50 which was "supposed" to be announced at the PMA to keep Canon on their toes.

Still, means nothing though...

Welcome geogie!
Whatever's happened we still have the D70 with us for a long time, what's the D50 like? could not guess! Que sera sera! BTW, what camera do you have? and what region you're from?
Hope to see lot of pics from you.
Enjoy!

[Nnnnsic]

PMA hasn't actually started yet, Georgie.

And welcome.

D50? I think you mean the D90.

[johndec]

70-300VR??? Who would waste their money on VR for such inexpensive optics. Mind you, the optics were probably reworked to accomodate the VR if this is for real.

IF it is for real, I would imagine it would possibly be a replacement for the 80-400?

Life must be good up North if $1200 is inexpensive Seriously though, I think that it would find a very happy niche as a consumer lens for people that baulk at the reach and price of the 70-200VR but dont want the slow AF of the 80-400. People like me


I would imagine the optics, given the projected price would be on par with the 24-120VR.

[georgie]

Hi New to the forum and posting for the first time

Just thought it was interesting that there was no mention of the D50 which was "supposed" to be announced at the PMA to keep Canon on their toes.

Still, means nothing though...

Welcome geogie!
Whatever's happened we still have the D70 with us for a long time, what's the D50 like? could not guess! Que sera sera! BTW, what camera do you have? and what region you're from?
Hope to see lot of pics from you.
Enjoy!

Thanks Birddog

Currently am using a F70 for film and a Canon s50 for digital - hopefully will have a d70 by the end of the month (just emailed you earlier - with a "gmp" email address.

From Brisbane, and am currently taking way too many photos of my 8 month old twin girls.

[georgie]

PMA hasn't actually started yet, Georgie.

And welcome.

D50? I think you mean the D90.

Thanks for the welcome - I read that on the dpreview site where I had been hanging out....someone with "inside" knowledge.......

[birddog114]

70-300VR??? Who would waste their money on VR for such inexpensive optics. Mind you, the optics were probably reworked to accomodate the VR if this is for real.

IF it is for real, I would imagine it would possibly be a replacement for the 80-400?

Life must be good up North if $1200 is inexpensive Seriously though, I think that it would find a very happy niche as a consumer lens for people that baulk at the reach and price of the 70-200VR but dont want the slow AF of the 80-400. People like me


I would imagine the optics, given the projected price would be on par with the 24-120VR.

Johndec,
So, wait for the new AF-S 70-300VR, will be your Xmas 05 present or a package of the lens with Easter eggs in Easter 06?

[johndec]

Birdy. You probably know better than anyone that with Nikkor lenses, you get what you pay for. If it pops up at the PMA, I'll read the specs and press releases with interest, but I think you are getting to know me too well and I'll probably have a 70-200VR + TC in my bag long before the "mythical" 70-300VR is released

[MattC]

Johndec,

As Birddog pointed out the 70-300 is a $150 lens. I have one and I am not overly impressed. It is a budget lens, even cheaper than the 50/1.8. I would not go rushing out to buy one with VR unless there were some pretty serious changes made to the lens. Adding VR to that lens will not make the optics any better. $1200 goes a long way towards saving for the 70-200VR.
My comments were not intended to belittle those who would buy this lens. I realise that lenses such as these have their place. For me, it is not. I have finally realised that spending once and spending right is the way to go. When I have finished building my kit I will have three lenses that will never get used again. I will also have a bag full of lenses that will last a lifetime.

No life is not so great up here. I was laid off from my full time job this week, and I was told this week that I am no longer required for my weekend job. Two jobs gone in one week.

Perhaps I should have rephrased that statement.

Cheers

Matt

[gstark]

PMA hasn't actually started yet, Georgie.

And welcome.

D50? I think you mean the D90.

D50??

D90 ??

Not this year.

I said a few weeks back that we would be seeing a replacement for the D100. Nothing else makes any sense at all. Nothing.

The only mention of the D90 and/or D50 were unsubstantiated rumours, and that's what they will remain.

[sirhc55]

Sorry to hear of your bad news Matt - do you have anything in sight workwise?

[birddog114]

Birdy. You probably know better than anyone that with Nikkor lenses, you get what you pay for. If it pops up at the PMA, I'll read the specs and press releases with interest, but I think you are getting to know me too well and I'll probably have a 70-200VR + TC in my bag long before the "mythical" 70-300VR is released

John,
I think you should go for the 70-200VR + TC, anyway that the ones we already known it's a good lens and tack sharp, if the AF-S 70-330VR released, we don't know how good is it, but it's f.4, it's still slow in low light and worst with TC on.
Your choice!

[MattC]

Chris,

The two jobs that I have lost have stood me in pretty good steed. I have got to know most of the town pretty well. I have already been offered a couple of jobs and stand a pretty good chance with a couple more.
I will probably take a couple of weeks for a break, before I get back into it. It is just a PITA because I really do not like breaking in a new job. Living expenses are minimal and well covered but the Gitzo, 85/1.4.... are just going to have to wait a little longer.

Cheers

Matt

[gstark]

If it had a USB interface, I wonder how hard it would be to plug some USB devices like say.. oh.. I don't know.. a USB Wi-Fi card in and get it working...

There's mention of some new camerar control software that runs through the USB interface.

This is not NCC, but something else, using the .Net framework.

With the .Net framework coming into the picture, if we can get hold of the new SDK through the .Net framework, the possibility of using the Compact Framework (and thus PPCs) comes into the frame.

[birddog114]

Matt,
Sorry to hear your breaking news! come down to Sydney for a few days trip, join the Sydney gangs with few REDs and back up there to work,
Hope and wish you'll get something nicely upthere.

[johndec]

Johndec,

As Birddog pointed out the 70-300 is a $150 lens. I have one and I am not overly impressed. It is a budget lens, even cheaper than the 50/1.8. I would not go rushing out to buy one with VR unless there were some pretty serious changes made to the lens. Adding VR to that lens will not make the optics any better. $1200 goes a long way towards saving for the 70-200VR.
My comments were not intended to belittle those who would buy this lens. I realise that lenses such as these have their place. For me, it is not. I have finally realised that spending once and spending right is the way to go. When I have finished building my kit I will have three lenses that will never get used again. I will also have a bag full of lenses that will last a lifetime.

No life is not so great up here. I was laid off from my full time job this week, and I was told this week that I am no longer required for my weekend job. Two jobs gone in one week.

Perhaps I should have rephrased that statement.

Cheers

Matt

Matt, sorry to hear about the work situation. Just another case of me opening my mouth only to change feet!! My somewhat strange sense of humour bombs again..... My sincere apologies.

As for the "supposed" 70-300VR. If it was just the current lens with VR sticky-taped to the side, I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole, even at half the price. I'm just guessing that for $1200 you would get $1200 worth of lens, just like you get $150 worth of lens with the "poverty pack" 70-300.

Anyway, time will tell....

[MattC]

Thanks Birddog,

I would like to do that. I have actually been thinking about a trip down to Adelaide to visit my sister and her four beautiful daughters (my favourite photo subjects). Problem is that I have been waiting for the wet season to finally get here. We actually got some rain two days ago - about 6 weeks late - and I am afraid it will all be over too soon. I want to get out into the back blocks and take some photos while everything is green and there is a bit of water about. Wish I had those legs. I may just have to knock something up from some tubing that will stand about 18 inches in height.

Cheers

Matt

[johndec]

Your choice!

And I think I'll choose f2.8 all the way up to 200mm and with the 1.7TC f4.5 from 201mm to 340mm

Like I said, you get what you pay for!!!

[Glen]

Matt, sorry to hear about your enforced holiday, hope you enjoy the break

[MattC]

Thanks Glen. I am enjoying the break. For the last couple of days I have been able to sleep in. Heaven. This weekend I will be able to go out and do something instead of recovering from night shift.

Cheers

Matt

[pl55]

Johndec,

As Birddog pointed out the 70-300 is a $150 lens. I have one and I am not overly impressed. It is a budget lens, even cheaper than the 50/1.8. I would not go rushing out to buy one with VR unless there were some pretty serious changes made to the lens. Adding VR to that lens will not make the optics any better. $1200 goes a long way towards saving for the 70-200VR.
My comments were not intended to belittle those who would buy this lens. I realise that lenses such as these have their place. For me, it is not. I have finally realised that spending once and spending right is the way to go. When I have finished building my kit I will have three lenses that will never get used again. I will also have a bag full of lenses that will last a lifetime.

No life is not so great up here. I was laid off from my full time job this week, and I was told this week that I am no longer required for my weekend job. Two jobs gone in one week.

Perhaps I should have rephrased that statement.

Cheers

Matt

Hi Matt

My sympathy to you. Just to make you feel better, I'm in the same situation with you. Just came back from the Xmas holiday, and forced to resigned from my job ( 7 years ) . Now still looking for another job. Guessed the 70-200 VR lense can wait....


Cheers

Peter

[atencati]

If it had a USB interface, I wonder how hard it would be to plug some USB devices like say.. oh.. I don't know.. a USB Wi-Fi card in and get it working...

This is my current project...figuring out how to tap the usb. It is feasible theoretically. The biggest issue right now is the camear itself. There isn't mch known about the programming of the 2 chips. The seem to run on a little used platform, unlike tohe canons onX86 platform (easy to crack). Things are progressing however. THIS WOULD BE A HELL OF A LOT EASIER IF NIKON WOULD COOPERATE!!!! Oh well, if they release it first,, great!

OH YEAH! command dials, there should not be any reason you cna't incorporate the command dials via usb since you can change the same settings via NC.

Andy

[atencati]

If it had a USB interface, I wonder how hard it would be to plug some USB devices like say.. oh.. I don't know.. a USB Wi-Fi card in and get it working...

There's mention of some new camerar control software that runs through the USB interface.

This is not NCC, but something else, using the .Net framework.

With the .Net framework coming into the picture, if we can get hold of the new SDK through the .Net framework, the possibility of using the Compact Framework (and thus PPCs) comes into the frame.

Missed this one in my first post to this thread. I lloked into the sdk for my litttle project and nikonUSA won't distribute it to individuals, only companies that have a product in development and sign an NDC and promise not to release it to anyone else. there are a few copies out there but no one is sharing. Nikon must have really put the screws to them.

andy

[Glen]

Andy, did you know that there is a yahoo group which is concerned with hacking the D70? If you require the address I can find it for you.

[Nnnnsic]

H@x0r 7h3 c@m3r@!!!

Sorry... I couldn't resist.