Using the Seagull Angle Finder

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Using the Seagull Angle Finder

Postby devilla101 on Mon May 14, 2007 7:24 pm

Took this fun little toy along the Harbour walk on Sat. Made getting really low angle shots soooo easy

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Used the Sigma 24-70mm 2.8. Little sharpening needed during PP

Enjoy!!
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Postby Fortigurn on Mon May 14, 2007 7:35 pm

Wow, stunners! What is this 'Seagull Angle Finder' device?
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Postby Reschsmooth on Mon May 14, 2007 7:45 pm

Fortigurn wrote:Wow, stunners! What is this 'Seagull Angle Finder' device?


I think he is referring to a right angle finder that clips onto the view finder.

Something like this I guess.

I will be corrected if I am wrong. :D
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Postby devilla101 on Mon May 14, 2007 7:54 pm

Reschsmooth wrote:
Fortigurn wrote:Wow, stunners! What is this 'Seagull Angle Finder' device?


I think he is referring to a right angle finder that clips onto the view finder.

Something like this I guess.

I will be corrected if I am wrong. :D


Nope, your spot on!
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Postby Fortigurn on Mon May 14, 2007 8:04 pm

Goodness, what a handy gadget. :shock:
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Postby devilla101 on Mon May 14, 2007 8:48 pm

oh it is. Instead of craning your neck at the level you want to shoot, all you do is look down and focus
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Postby iGBH on Mon May 14, 2007 8:52 pm

Great images - really sharp.

What is the second picture of? I can't for the life of me work it out. :?
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Postby devilla101 on Mon May 14, 2007 8:56 pm

Thanks, its a mossy ground. Basically placed the camera down flat, look through the viewfinder and adjusted to taste.
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Postby ozimax on Mon May 14, 2007 9:25 pm

All are great, but 1st shot of Rover is tremendous, what a wonderful and unusual angle of the dog. Did you use 70-200 or macro lens for that shot?

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Postby devilla101 on Mon May 14, 2007 9:39 pm

Thanks Ozi

In order to get the beagle (being a small dog) I basically lowered the camera until it was basically close to the ground and took the shot.

I used the Sigma 24-70 2.8 and the angle finder
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Postby stetner on Mon May 14, 2007 10:23 pm

how is the build quality? (and is it exactly the one at that ebay store??)
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Postby Yi-P on Mon May 14, 2007 11:10 pm

That sigma is performing much better than I first thought!! All excellent shots :D
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Postby young_einstein on Mon May 14, 2007 11:21 pm

Have to agree that the first shot is pretty special.

Just a shame about his dirty tounge! ;)
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Postby Willy wombat on Tue May 15, 2007 12:28 am

Is it easy to find these gadgets in Australia?
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Postby young_einstein on Tue May 15, 2007 12:30 am

Willy wombat wrote:Is it easy to find these gadgets in Australia?


There's plenty of them floating around on eBay!
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Postby devilla101 on Tue May 15, 2007 10:29 pm

stetner wrote:how is the build quality? (and is it exactly the one at that ebay store??)


Build quality is really nice. Body is plastic, rubber eyecup and adjuster thingy. Viewfinder is made of glass cause there seems to be weight on it. Has 1x and 2x magnification. Comes in a pouch.

I got mine from here
http://stores.ebay.com.au/Shamino123s-Store-for-Photography

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Yeah the Sigma 24-70 did perform quite well. There was PP involved (of course) but only boosting saturation and bit of sharpening. Now if only Trieu would sell his copy ;)
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Postby stubbsy on Tue May 15, 2007 10:43 pm

Ron

The first two shots are great use of the angle viewfinder thingy for me. #3 is a really good image too except it doesn't show the use of the tool as much. Not that there's anything wrong with that :wink:

#4 doesn't quite cut it for me (but only just) - I'd like a touch more DOF so the foreground petals of the flower are in focus.
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Postby devilla101 on Tue May 15, 2007 10:51 pm

Thanks for the critique Pete, well appreciated. I know what you mean by image 4. I should have stop down some more since that shot I think was @ 2.8.

Good to finally meet you as well :)
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Postby Cre8tivepixels on Tue May 15, 2007 11:18 pm

Number one is a standout......SUPER sharp!

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Postby sirhc55 on Tue May 15, 2007 11:57 pm

The first shot is a classic use of an angle finder and is a superb shot. The next two are very good as well but the fourth shot really needed the foreground to be in focus IMO.

I use a Canon Angle finder on my D70 and can attest to the usefullness of these gadgets. The other course is the Zigview.
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Postby young_einstein on Wed May 16, 2007 1:53 am

The Zigview is complete rubbish IMHO!
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Postby Alpha_7 on Wed May 16, 2007 12:55 pm

young_einstein wrote:The Zigview is complete rubbish IMHO!


Perhaps not the best place to ask for an explaination (perhaps the review section is better suited). But have you used one, bought one and why do you think its utter rubbish, I haven't used one but know someone that does, and well I'd consider buying one if I had more spending money..
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Postby DaveB on Wed May 16, 2007 2:26 pm

Just a note about the Seagull angle finder's build quality...
It's a cheap device, and there are definitely quality issues when you compare it with something like Canon's Angle Finder C. I have one (a Seagull):
  • When you switch magnification the focus changes, requiring you to manually adjust (the finder's eyepiece) back and forwards. This makes use of the 2x mode a bit painful.
  • The attachment to the camera is via one of several adapters: at least with the Canon adapter some careful manipulation is required to make sure the viewfinder's looking at the centre of the viewfinder.
Another issue with most cheaper angle finders is the way the image is inverted (the Canon angle finder re-inverts the image for a normal view).

But the Seagull finder is still a very useful device to have, as evidenced by these images!
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Postby Geoff on Tue May 22, 2007 9:49 am

devilla101 wrote:Thanks for the critique Pete


Don't call him Pete :) :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Dargan on Tue May 22, 2007 5:01 pm

Is the Nikon/Canon OEM right angle finder worth the extra cash then over the Seagull and other 3rd party offerings? An iverted image would be hard to work with but I notice the Nikon Right angle finder corrects this. It is over $200AUD though.
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Postby Grev on Wed May 23, 2007 10:25 am

Very clean! You should use it more often. :lol:
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Postby DaveB on Wed May 23, 2007 10:50 am

Dargan, I suspect if you had the Nikon/Canon finder you'd be really happy with it. The Seagull really does feel like a "budget" item.

But on the other hand, how often are you going to use the finder? The quality/cost tradeoff is something you'd have to judge for yourself.
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Postby michael_ on Wed May 23, 2007 1:07 pm

i have the canon angle finder c and build quality is great, it certainly doesnt feel cheap, you get what you pay for i guess, i like mine and use it often
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Re: Using the Seagull Angle Finder

Postby diamondblast on Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:17 pm

I really loved the flowers...
can I use them for my website? :) please.
I'm shooting all kind of plants from close angles
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Re: Using the Seagull Angle Finder

Postby the foto fanatic on Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:50 pm

diamondblast wrote:I really loved the flowers...
can I use them for my website? :) please.
I'm shooting all kind of plants from close angles


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Re: Using the Seagull Angle Finder

Postby team piggy on Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:53 pm

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