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Kodak filter improves low-light pix

Postby the foto fanatic on Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:45 pm

A future photographic tool -

From The Age today:
http://www.theage.com.au/news/breaking- ... 39495.html
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Postby phillipb on Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:51 pm

Interesting stuff Trevor, this could potentially replace VR.
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Postby jamesw on Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:03 pm

anyone here got a grasp of how sensors work?

will this solve or exacerbate high iso noise problemss???
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Postby the foto fanatic on Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:24 pm

jamesw wrote:
will this solve or exacerbate high iso noise problemss???


Good question.

I would think that there would be little point to the filter if there was still a significant noise issue, which of course, is the main bugbear with low-light photography ATM.

From reading the article it would appear that there is still some development work involved and there won't be anything to trial until next year.
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Postby jamesw on Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:30 pm

cricketfan wrote:
jamesw wrote:
will this solve or exacerbate high iso noise problemss???


Good question.

I would think that there would be little point to the filter if there was still a significant noise issue, which of course, is the main bugbear with low-light photography ATM.

From reading the article it would appear that there is still some development work involved and there won't be anything to trial until next year.


it was my vague understanding that noise was caused by excess energy/heat through the sensor. like i said. very vague.
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Postby the foto fanatic on Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:36 am

jamesw wrote:it was my vague understanding that noise was caused by excess energy/heat through the sensor. like i said. very vague.


Not quite. The sensor always works the same way. When the ISO is increased, the camera's internals boost the output from the sensor.

Think of it like an amplifier playing music. The source is the same, but volume is increased by turning up the the amplifier - if you keep turning it up, you'll get to the stage where there is distortion.

When you increase the ISO of your camera, you are amplifying the signal that comes from the sensor, and if you keep increasing it you will eventually get distortion (noise).
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Postby jamesw on Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:15 am

cricketfan wrote:
jamesw wrote:it was my vague understanding that noise was caused by excess energy/heat through the sensor. like i said. very vague.


Not quite. The sensor always works the same way. When the ISO is increased, the camera's internals boost the output from the sensor.

Think of it like an amplifier playing music. The source is the same, but volume is increased by turning up the the amplifier - if you keep turning it up, you'll get to the stage where there is distortion.

When you increase the ISO of your camera, you are amplifying the signal that comes from the sensor, and if you keep increasing it you will eventually get distortion (noise).


with that broad theoretical boundry in mind, a filter that increases the quality/quantity of light the chip takes in should not increase noise, as it is increasing the input/source of light rather than the output.
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Postby the foto fanatic on Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:20 pm

Further info contained in this item at DP Review:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0706/07061 ... ghsens.asp
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