First try at IR

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First try at IR

Postby gooseberry on Sun Feb 06, 2005 7:31 pm

Some pics from today of me testing out the Hoya R72 IR filter on my 50/1.8

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Postby mudder on Sun Feb 06, 2005 7:35 pm

Wow, I don't know whether that looks ghostly, like something out of a Hitchcock move, or in a snow field... Really effective, especially with the blue sky...

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Postby PlatinumWeaver on Sun Feb 06, 2005 7:58 pm

Whoah.. those are some great looking shots..

How much $ did the Hoya R72 IR filter set you back?
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Postby Killakoala on Sun Feb 06, 2005 7:59 pm

I love the last one especially. Very surreal. Nice contrast of colours and scenery.
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Postby stubbsy on Sun Feb 06, 2005 8:31 pm

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I'm puzzled - All the IR photos I've seen so far have been B & W. Have you PP'd these to add the sky & other colour back in as a layer or is this how they come out of the camera?
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Postby gooseberry on Sun Feb 06, 2005 9:26 pm

Hi,

Thanks for all the comments, glad you like the shots. I quite like the results of using the R72 for IR, gonna have to go out and take some more shots.

PlatinumWeaver,
the 52mm Hoya R72 (which I used today) costs around S$25-30 (A$20-25) and prices increase for the larger filter sizes, 67mm being S$80-90 (A$63-72) and a bloody expensive S$210 (A$167) for the 77mm one. I haven't bought any yet - just testing out the 52mm I borrowed.

stubbsy,
with IR on the D70 - once you do a custom white balance with the R72 filter, the photos do look B&W (although there is still colour information there) - what I did was follow some basic suggestions I read from a website, all that was done for these photos is to bring them into PS and use the Channel Mixer to swap the red and blue channels - that's the basic steps so you can get a nice blue sky etc (from this you can adjust the colours to your tastes, but I left the images as is)
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Postby birddog114 on Sun Feb 06, 2005 9:29 pm

Nothing in 77mm is cheap! Prosumer!
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Postby redline on Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:00 pm

so did you meter the scene normally before attaching the filter on, gooseberry?
use to do alot of ir stuff with the sony, buying the r72 wasn't too bad try buying the rm90, ouch
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Postby gooseberry on Mon Feb 07, 2005 1:33 am

birddog,
hehe, yup 77mm stuff isn't cheap. Trying to decide now which size IR filter I should buy - might just buy the 77mm one especially since I'll probably get a 12-24, and use step up rings for my other smaller lenses.

redline,
what I did was compose the picture and focus without the filter. Put the filter on, and meter with the filter on, adding +0.7ev before taking the shot to bring the histogram up a bit to around the middle range.
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Postby Davidson on Mon Feb 07, 2005 6:58 am

Gooseberry

Very nice photos - The colour attempt is very good compared to the B & W.

With the lens size, I continue using my older nikor lenes with 52mm as all my filters are that size.

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Postby gooseberry on Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:46 pm

Davidson,

Thanks for the compliments. Yeah, the colour adds a sort of surreal quality to the pics. Gonna have to try a technique I read about combining IR and colour photos next time I go out shooting with an IR filter - the results I've seen of the technique were amazing, can't seem to find the link again though, will have to do some experimenting.

Yeah, having lenses with the same filter sizes is handy - I've got 77mm, 67mm, 62mm and 52mm thread sizes, so I buy the largest (and most expensive) filter and use step-up rings.
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Postby brembo on Mon Feb 07, 2005 1:36 pm

I've tried a few IR photos on my A80 using a Hoya R72 filter, but the quality is not nearly as good as these.

I like them especially DSC_7190.
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Postby sirhc55 on Mon Feb 07, 2005 2:25 pm

gooseberry - all three are superb with number 3 taking the edge
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Postby Oneputt on Mon Feb 07, 2005 2:41 pm

Great images! Dammit something else to add to the shopping list :lol:
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Postby gooseberry on Mon Feb 07, 2005 5:08 pm

Thanks for the comments guys...

Oneputt,
hehe.. yeah this photography is like a big black hole that sucks up all your cash - apart from the main thing like camera bodies and lenses, you've got an almost endless supply of accessories which you can get and experiment with :lol:
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Postby Link on Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:55 pm

Gooseberry,

Thanks for posting and sharing all the "technical secrets"! They're all impressive photos; my favourite is the first one because I think the shape of the tree and the contrasting three colours (blue sky, white leaves, dark trunk) work very well together.

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Postby gooseberry on Tue Feb 08, 2005 12:27 pm

Link,

Thanks for the comments, hope the information is useful for people wanting to try out IR.
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Postby kfandst on Tue Feb 08, 2005 1:28 pm

Nice shots, gooseberry.

No 2 looks like the plants on the reef.

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Postby gooseberry on Tue Feb 08, 2005 2:25 pm

kfandst,
These were shot in an area around Fort Canning in Singapore.
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Postby kfandst on Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:20 pm

wow, didn't know that there were such trees at Fort Canning. Will pay a visit next time I'm there. Were the photos recent?
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Postby gooseberry on Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:27 pm

Yeah, very recent, took them on Sunday morning.
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Postby ozimax on Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:33 pm

Wonderful effect with the IR, Max
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Postby gooseberry on Wed Feb 09, 2005 8:31 pm

ozimax wrote:Wonderful effect with the IR, Max


Yeah, the IR effect gives pictures a dreamy, surreal sort of look, quite like it especially for landscapes.
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Re: First try at IR

Postby xorl on Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:41 am

gooseberry wrote:Some pics from today of me testing out the Hoya R72 IR filter on my 50/1.8


Nice photos! I've been thinking about playing around with IR and I've been wondering how sensitive the D70 is to IR light. What did the meter show before/after putting the IR filter on?
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Postby below-0 on Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:12 pm

very nice effect! i wonder what an IR filter looks like on snow pics -- if there's much difference as those look very wintery.
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Postby gooseberry on Sun Feb 13, 2005 4:21 pm

Hi, thanks for the comments.

xorl,
I think I was shooting at f/11, 1 to 2 sec exposure for most of these shots. Meter read something like 1/400 before putting on the filter - but not too sure. So I guess the it's something like 8 or so stops difference with the filter on.

below-0,
Would be interesting to try it out on a snowy landscape and trees covered with snow - but I would guess it would appear white as the IR would probably be reflected by the snow quite well - just a guess though.
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Postby ultravista on Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:55 am

Can you post a link to the website you got the tips from? BTW, I've picked up a few nice filters on ebay. a Hoya and B+W for $30 each. Haven't shot much with them yet.
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Postby Killakoala on Wed Feb 16, 2005 11:58 am

Thanks for sharing those pics Gooseberry. I was inspired so i went out and bought a Cokin 89b IR filter and took a few shots of Sydney harbour.

I will give your PP tips a bit of a go and see what i can come up with.

Thanks for showing the pics and for the inspiration. :)
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Postby ozimax on Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:53 pm

Great shots, they are wild, surreal almost, have never tried this sort of photography, print and frame the second one, ozi.
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Postby gooseberry on Wed Feb 16, 2005 1:16 pm

Hi Guys,

Glad you like the photos and thanks for the comments.

Steve,
look forward to seeing some of your pics.

I'll post up the IR techniques in the Tips and Tricks forum - keep an eye out for it.
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Postby xerubus on Wed Feb 16, 2005 1:46 pm

gooseberry wrote:Hi Guys,

Glad you like the photos and thanks for the comments.

Steve,
look forward to seeing some of your pics.

I'll post up the IR techniques in the Tips and Tricks forum - keep an eye out for it.


looking forward to it....

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Postby gooseberry on Thu Feb 17, 2005 1:33 pm

Hi All,

I've posted a quick summary of what I do for IR in the Tips and Tricks section

http://forum.d70users.com/viewtopic.php?t=2940
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Postby Catcha on Wed Mar 02, 2005 2:19 am

WOW I never new IR could have colour in it, certainly adds a different perspective from what i have in the old days of B&W and having to develope it at class...great shot thats another area I would like to get into as well when i get my camera :D
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Hi

Are you still in Melbourne or have you gone back to Singapore?

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