All D3 Rumours in one place

[rooboy]

I wonder if any of these address what Andrew (Padey) jumped ship for, if so then it was rather bad timing (but we still have to see real units delievered in a timely fashion) lets hope Nikon have upped there game.

The last thing they really need to do is update the primes to AF-S, and re-introduce the 28/1.4 (in AF-S of course ).

[gooseberry]

Oh Gary Gary Gary...

Haven't you realised that all the real photographers are out there taking photos and the only people on here right now are all the lost-case gear-whores?

[ATJ]

As an aside, why wouldn't they offer ISO 100 on there top of the line camera ??

Images taken with the D3 reflect exceptional overall quality, broad tonal range and depth, along with extremely low-noise throughout its normal ISO range of 200 to 6400. By setting the camera to its built-in options of Lo-1 or Hi-2, the ISO range of the camera can be expanded to the equivalent of ISO 100 or ISO 25,600 respectively, offering unmatched versatility in practically any shooting situation.

[gstark]

I didn't really follow the release of the D200, and the slow way that stock was made available - but it might be better this time round, given it is Nikon Aus, rather than Maxwells?

ROTFLMAO

[blackD200]

Ok .....


Here's the killer question.

Hands up those who think that either of these cameras will make them a better photographer?

Oh Gary Gary Gary...

Haven't you realised that all the real photographers are out there taking photos and the only people on here right now are all the lost-case gear-whores?

bwahahahaha.. unfortunately, I havent quite made the trasition to full time photography - so am currently stuck in front of my computer not taking any pictures on my day/week job --> watching this thread grow...

51AF points wooooooow....

[losfp]

I wonder how long until we see some sample images from both the D3 and the D300.

As an aside, why wouldn't they offer ISO 100 on there top of the line camera ?? Just a sensor limitation ? Or perhaps the 24MP FF D3x will have it ?

Y'see Craig, I think the missing piece of the puzzle is.. how well does it perform noise-wise at any particular ISO setting?

I RECKON that the ISO settings given are an indication of the SENSITIVITY of the sensor at that setting. So maybe what they have done is gone "well, it performs just as well at ISO200 as it did at ISO100 on the old cameras, and there isn't much performance gain under that, so let's start at ISO200".

Just a thought.

[Alpha_7]

Haven't you realised that all the real photographers are out there taking photos and the only people on here right now are all the lost-case gear-whores?

Too true!

[Alpha_7]

As an aside, why wouldn't they offer ISO 100 on there top of the line camera ??

Images taken with the D3 reflect exceptional overall quality, broad tonal range and depth, along with extremely low-noise throughout its normal ISO range of 200 to 6400. By setting the camera to its built-in options of Lo-1 or Hi-2, the ISO range of the camera can be expanded to the equivalent of ISO 100 or ISO 25,600 respectively, offering unmatched versatility in practically any shooting situation.

Thanks (I missed that bit!) But Des is right, its more about the noise at all ISO levels then the ISO levels themselves, man I hope they have nailed that.

[gooseberry]

As an aside, why wouldn't they offer ISO 100 on there top of the line camera ?? Just a sensor limitation ? Or perhaps the 24MP FF D3x will have it ?

Having a higher base ISO allows you to go to higher ISOs with less "boost"

[iposiniditos]

i was thinking of selling my d2xs for one of those ff beasts.... but maybe waiting for a d3x (16mp or 22mp or 24mp or so...) is a better idea.

[iluxa]

As an aside, why wouldn't they offer ISO 100 on there top of the line camera ??

They do. D3 and D300 have "L1" option which is ISO100.

[Heath Bennett]

Finally some good news, not rumour.

Get ready for cheap second hand 12-24 DX's from those going the 14-24 route.

[Cre8tivepixels]

I am SOOO happy i could cry..........lol

Thankyou Nikon!!!!!!

[ATJ]

http://www.nikon.com.au/announcements.php

[Cre8tivepixels]

I was talking to the guys at EC at Drummoyne and they have been playing with prototypes today and they reckon there is NO disconcernable noise up to 1600 ISO and the 6400 you have to zoom into 300% to see grain and its NOT like the old Xmas tree lights but a more film like grain.....he also said that he would go for the D300 over the D3 in terms of price per what you get and the fact that the D300 has a larger sensor....expect November shipments.....and i am going in on Monday to leave my money on the counter..........WOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO

[Laurie]

I was talking to the guys at EC at Drummoyne and they have been playing with prototypes today and they reckon there is NO disconcernable noise up to 1600 ISO and the 6400 you have to zoom into 300% to see grain and its NOT like the old Xmas tree lights but a more film like grain.....he also said that he would go for the D300 over the D3 in terms of price per what you get and the fact that the D300 has a larger sensor....expect November shipments.....and i am going in on Monday to leave my money on the counter..........WOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO

Dan, I very glad you are staying with Nikon
I'd hate to lose you to Canon!!

[Steffen]

he also said that he would go for the D300 over the D3 in terms of price per what you get and the fact that the D300 has a larger sensor

The D300 has a DX sensor, which is smaller than the FX sensor in the D3.

Or did he mean, it has more pixels than the D3 in DX mode? It sure does, 12MP vs 5MP.

Cheers
Steffen.

[Cre8tivepixels]

he also said that he would go for the D300 over the D3 in terms of price per what you get and the fact that the D300 has a larger sensor

The D300 has a DX sensor, which is smaller than the FX sensor in the D3.

Or did he mean, it has more pixels than the D3 in DX mode? It sure does, 12MP vs 5MP.

Cheers
Steffen.

Yeah the former i think, i am not real big on the tech talk.......

[Reschsmooth]

I was talking to the guys at EC at Drummoyne and they have been playing with prototypes today and they reckon there is NO disconcernable noise up to 1600 ISO and the 6400 you have to zoom into 300% to see grain and its NOT like the old Xmas tree lights but a more film like grain.....he also said that he would go for the D300 over the D3 in terms of price per what you get and the fact that the D300 has a larger sensor....expect November shipments.....and i am going in on Monday to leave my money on the counter..........WOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO

Dan, wasn't it only a couple of weeks ago that you were saying that Nikon had lost the plot? I thought you wanted to go full frame anyway?

[Cre8tivepixels]

I was talking to the guys at EC at Drummoyne and they have been playing with prototypes today and they reckon there is NO disconcernable noise up to 1600 ISO and the 6400 you have to zoom into 300% to see grain and its NOT like the old Xmas tree lights but a more film like grain.....he also said that he would go for the D300 over the D3 in terms of price per what you get and the fact that the D300 has a larger sensor....expect November shipments.....and i am going in on Monday to leave my money on the counter..........WOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO

Dan, wasn't it only a couple of weeks ago that you were saying that Nikon had lost the plot? I thought you wanted to go full frame anyway?

Ohh come on that was complete frustration talking, i get ripped from mates all the time about being with NIKON i just wanted Nikon to come to the party and they have, maybe the 'whingers' like me have contributed to them bringing out these awesome bodies.....they do read forums, they would be silly not too

But yer i was jumping the gun a little........anyone say Lazarus? lol

No i have never said (to my knowledge) that i wanted FF.....

[padey]

I wonder if any of these address what Andrew (Padey) jumped ship for, if so then it was rather bad timing (but we still have to see real units delievered in a timely fashion) lets hope Nikon have upped there game.

Part of the reason I moved was business reasons (both shoot the same equipment), body reasons (high ISO performance) and glass reasons (no updated fast primes from Nikon).

The D3 does read well, but so does my new body; 1D3. It's a shame Nikon did nothing in with the primes segment to leverage off their new bodies. I've always said, glass > bodies, and this still stands. The business reason were always going to be the same.

The D3 does look like a competitor to the 1D3. I look forward to comparisons/field tests in the future.

I'm just glad i sold 90% of my Nikon gear before today!!! The only thing left is a 28mm f1.4, and that will still hold it's price.

[marc]

And to think I just ordered a new D2Xs. Oh well, I can't wait another 3-6 months (or whenever we'll see stock):?
I need it for my 18 night trip to Zambia in 2 weeks................counting down

Cheers
Marc

[blackD200]

I'm just glad i sold 90% of my Nikon gear before today!!! The only thing left is a 28mm f1.4, and that will still hold it's price.

my initial thoughts was that you might be potentially kicking yourself migrating across - with the loss of some $$$. After reading this - damn what good timing you have (must have had inside info )... sold them before them prices go down...

[Onyx]

That red triangle that stood out on Nikon bodies has now become a skewed Nike tick. Me no likey.

15 cross-sensor AF points on the bodies available in the new semi-pro model (D300) surpasses the 9 on today's top of the range D2Xs. That's a huge step.

Out of camera TIFFs, LOL. I thought there was a reason it went away after the D100, the totally impractical file sizes.

[chrisk]

i would suspect that we may see some primes announced with the d3x in another big announcement...well one would hope anyway. at least we know nikon haven;t been sleeping on the job...they seem to have just been working towards a very high end, major overhaul.

@gary RE: 17-55VR. having used the 17-55IS alot, i for one would love this type of lens. it has come in very handy for landscape, sunset, night photography shots where you can shoot at very, very low SS without tripod. if canon can make it at the price they do it for, i see no reason nikon can;t come to the party and do the same for the same sort of price.

[Heath Bennett]

Onyx - Tiffs are available on the D2x/s also - hasn't ever gone away, just a useless feature.

It seems that it is noticeably heavier 1390g(D3) vs 1252g(D2x), a little taller and a little bigger in other dimensions. This is the only thing that I am unimpressed by yet though, everything else is excellent.

I wouldn't have thought that Nikon could announce a D3, D300, 14-24? 2.8, 24-70 2.8 and 400 (2., 500 (4) PLUS 600 (4) in one day. Incredible really.

EDIT - Padey and Rooz - there are three new primes, just no short focal lengths that we are all after

[Geoff]

The D3 price will be (according to dpreview) 3400GBP, today that would be a cool $8317AUD...ouch

[MattyO]

FOR SALE: d200....

im definately getting me a D300..... cam3500!!!!!! fark me thats gunna rock

[stubbsy]

I see the new 600mm VR prime weighs 5.1 Kg - add that to a D3 at 1.4kg and you have a bloody heavy combo

[marcotrov]

As the add has said with Big Kev - I'm excited!!! D300 or save up for the D3 hmmm what a choice for the true believers
cheers
marco

[MattyO]

Serious question, where abouts do we go to get a d300... im seriously still excited!

[Heath Bennett]

It will be an option to get from the US or Poon. Wonder which will have it sooner...

5,000.00 USD = 6,126.92 AUD

Better than $8k like the D2x upon Aussie release.

EDIT - an interesting decision is whether to get a D3 for USD$5k with no lenses, or the ZD kit for USD$10 with a prime and separate upgradeable components... both shoot at 14 bit, have similar individual pixel size... still like apples and oranges though, worlds apart.

[sirhc55]

The D3 price will be (according to dpreview) 3400GBP, today that would be a cool $8317AUD...ouch

Why on earth would you calculate against the pound - don’t you know that the US owns us

[gstark]

US5K street price is expected ... so about PP6K.

[Geoff]

The D3 price will be (according to dpreview) 3400GBP, today that would be a cool $8317AUD...ouch

Why on earth would you calculate against the pound - don’t you know that the US owns us

I was going off the dpreview GBP price.

[olrac]

at US1799 you might get some change out of 3000 aud for the d300.

That sounds good to me.

I sold my 17 - 55 on evil bay this morning at 10 am.....
I think in the next short while more of these are going to be up for sale.

I will now await the 14 - 24

[anubis]

See only a few sleeps

Two killer cameras the D3 a repalcement for the D2Hs, and the D300...!

According to many Nikon "insiders", "watchers"..... whatever, expect a D3X announcement in 6 months.

Just blown away

[Manta]

Okay...now I'm really getting an itchy wallet finger. By the time D3 stock is available I may just about have convinced Stephanie that she needs to take up photography and my D70 will be the perfect device to get her started. Either way, I'll be off to the House of Poon....

[Heath Bennett]

Auto ISO might actually be fun with the D3!

[MCWB]

at US1799 you might get some change out of 3000 aud for the d300.

That sounds good to me.

Quite a bit of change I reckon, it's slightly cheaper than the release RRP of the D200, which was going for $2500 when they first arrived and that was with a worse exchange rate...

Can't wait.

[anubis]

D300 First Look

http://www.digitalreview.ca/content/Nikon-D300-Digital-SLR-Camera.shtml

[BT*ist]

No racing stripes, no chrome rims, no tugboats, no Rockwell clones, no spare fingers, no optional bar fridge compartment or inbuilt grenade launcher....

I for one am disappointed beyond measure, and will definitely be sticking with Pentax. Feel free to join me

[shutterbug]

Awesome......now lets wait for some high iso pics samples

I have my eye on the D3

[anubis]

Comments from Bjorn Roslett on Noise on the D3:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=24492014

Looks like all the "wink wink nudge nudge" about noise performance by Nikon Execs was correct BTW He shot the photos himself

[Nnnnsic]

Damn. And I thought I was saving my money for a new bass.

[ATJ]

Interesting quote here:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read. ... e=24493150

[Steffen]

It seems that it is noticeably heavier 1390g(D3) vs 1252g(D2x), a little taller and a little bigger in other dimensions. This is the only thing that I am unimpressed by yet though, everything else is excellent.

Full frame requires a larger mirror box and a larger finder prism. I reckon that would be the main reason for the stretch...

Cheers
Steffen.

[chrisk]

BTW He shot the photos himself

are there photos ? i cant see any ?

[anubis]

No he said as with any launch they werent able to keep the photos they took... Nikon flew him to Japan for the launch.

[Steffen]

According to the press release "the D3 uses a radical new approach to calculating exposures and white balance"...

One thing is for sure - the ambient light WB sensor is gone! I liked it, it was great for custom WB settings and replaced the pringles cap/expodisc/etc.

Cheers
Steffen.